Remster 30 #26 October 11, 2005 Quotefor their choice in jewelry!! Someone has to make them understand they are freaks and abobinations!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #27 October 11, 2005 With the low deployment altitudes he may need more than good insurance, with one good mal, a burial plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuotePlease, no PA or bordeline PAs. Why you got to hate like that, always excluding certain people for their choice in jewelry!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #29 October 11, 2005 QuoteWith the low deployment altitudes he may need more than good insurance, with one good mal, a burial plan. Apparently, you're not familiar with what Pro-Track calls "deployment"; unless Arthur's unit is different than mine and TLML's, the altitude given is the point at which his canopy was fully opened. I have my Pro-Track screaming at me all the way through opening sequence, including the times I have to use my rear risers to open the end cells of my Safire (2 out of 3 jumps). If you think about it, it could not be any other way -- how the fork could an altimeter know when you've started your deployment sequence? All it can sense is when you have stopped falling at free fall speed -- for lack of a better term, this is called "deployment" altitude. Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #30 October 11, 2005 A person could learn a hole lot in a thread like this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #31 October 11, 2005 Yup, I have one pro-track entry that indicates a 1700ft deployment, another one says 1600ft... I assure you I did not "deploy" at 1600ft FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #32 October 11, 2005 QuoteYup, I have one pro-track entry that indicates a 1700ft deployment, another one says 1600ft... I assure you I did not "deploy" at 1600ft At Otay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #33 October 11, 2005 QuoteI gotta bunch of jumps, you have fewer, I know it all and you're a butthead with an attitude because you questioned my authority Look pal, I never mentioned jump numbers in any way, and in fact the 'experience' that I reference, seeing a freefall/canopy collision, happened when I had about 100 jumps, 9+ years ago. What's interesting is that I still remember it clearly, and I haven't let myslef get into that position since then, which are both indicators that it sucked when it happened, and that I've made it a priority to not see it again. As far as my attitiude, or my appraoch, fuck that. It's MY approach, and I'll do it however I want. Don't like it, don't read it, but realize you may miss out on something useful. As far the further explanation of the jumps, the detailed account painted a much different picture. However, many folks seem to agree the original story sounded a bit scetchy, and that speaking up was warranted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #34 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteYup, I have one pro-track entry that indicates a 1700ft deployment, another one says 1600ft... I assure you I did not "deploy" at 1600ft At Otay? NO.. I would never suck down that low at Otay, and it has to be one hell of a jump for me to suck down that far anywhere for that matter... Those were at a boogie doing larger (for me) RW w/ a set 2500ft deployment altitude. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #35 October 11, 2005 QuoteAs far as my attitiude, or my appraoch, fuck that. It's MY approach, and I'll do it however I want. Just For You Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #36 October 11, 2005 QuoteNO.. I would never suck down that low at Otay *whew* You know, taken out of context... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #37 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteNO.. I would never suck down that low at Otay *whew* You know, taken out of context... Speaking of Otay, time for me to get ready for some jumpin today FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #39 October 11, 2005 QuoteOh here we go with the skygod attitude.... How do you get that out of his post? If someone walks around a dz with an inflated ego and thinking their shit doesn't stink, that to me is a skygod attitude. If someone with 4000 jumps and 10 years in the sport takes the time out of his day to point out safety concerns with a jump, that to me is a conscientious skydiver who is looking out for low-timers in the sport. It's all fun and games until someone gets an eye poked out...or worse.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrangeJumper 0 #40 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuotePlease, no PA or bordeline PAs. Why you got to hate like that, always excluding certain people for their choice in jewelry!! ....ummm, ouch! The Original Cabana Boy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #41 October 11, 2005 holy shit on a little flexible stick! Ok, Dave i'm going to address you first. Thank you for your concern I made a huge mistake in not including the prep that was done before these two jumps. everyone on those dives knew not to get above me if they were going to come in for a dock. everyone got the hell out of dodge at 5k and we all tracked away. I never even thought about pulling in place!! Also i wasn't trying to outrun anyone the whole idea was to give the freeflyers the chance to be headdown next to someone on his belly and get a dock. QuoteYeah, Roger doing a swoop drill with some newbies is waaaaaaaay different than a guy with 90-some jumps grabbing his ankles and potato chipping his way as low as he can get. i agree but like i said above we broke off at 5 grand on both jumps. QuoteExcellent point. Bad Viking! *cowers in the water well and puts the lotion on its skin* Quote Does deploying at 150+mph hurt, sheesh.. i didn't deploy at 150 the graph looks that way b/c at breakoff i brought my arms and legs back out to a normal position and suddenly slowed down and tracked away. I have learned something for sure. there is always someone who thinks what your doing is retarded.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #42 October 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteExcellent point. Bad Viking! *cowers in the water well and puts the lotion on its skin* *putting the hose down* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #43 October 11, 2005 QuoteDoes deploying at 150+mph hurt, sheesh.. Not as bad as a 190 mph deployment. With my current gear config, 150 is close to my standard deployment speed. And before someone lights up the flamethrower. Yes, I am very aware of the inherent risks involved with high speed deployments and have gear modded for the situation. I am also actively working on attaining lower deployment speeds. Until that time though, I chose to accept the elevated risk level. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerd137 0 #44 October 11, 2005 Quote I have never heard of a 'chase the brick' jump, but I've got say it sounds retarded. 5 or 6 people, all trying to keep up with you, most likey above you, who by your own admission was not stable? This doesn't sound like a solid plan with saftey in mind. There is a thread about a jumper falling through an inflated canopy in the incidents forum. I have seen this happen up close, and it is not fun, and it does happen. Oh good lord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #45 October 11, 2005 Quote...How do you get that out of his post? If someone walks around a dz with an inflated ego and thinking their shit doesn't stink, that to me is a skygod attitude..... "I have never heard of a 'chase the brick' jump, but I've got say it sounds retarded." "Edit: I just looked over your porfile, and if you are truely interested in "Learning to skydive worth a crap", it doesn't show in your attitude." "As far as my attitiude, or my appraoch, fuck that. It's MY approach, and I'll do it however I want. Don't like it, don't read it, but realize you may miss out on something useful."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #46 October 11, 2005 Quote..Look pal, I never mentioned jump numbers in any way, and in fact the 'experience' that I reference, seeing a freefall/canopy collision, happened when I had about 100 jumps, 9+ years ago. I'm truly sympathetic here. Quote What's interesting is that I still remember it clearly, and I haven't let myslef get into that position since then, which are both indicators that it sucked when it happened, and that I've made it a priority to not see it again. Good stuff and IMO, a good thing to do. Quote As far as my attitiude, or my appraoch, fuck that. It's MY approach, and I'll do it however I want. Don't like it, don't read it, but realize you may miss out on something useful. Here's where you blow it....you want people to learn from you? Try a more constuctive approach. Quote As far the further explanation of the jumps, the detailed account painted a much different picture. However, many folks seem to agree the original story sounded a bit scetchy, and that speaking up was warranted. Speaking up is not the issue - never was. Again, the condescending attitude is. Being anal is the issue. Do you not see that? Dave, this is it...Let's agree to disagree and call it quits...My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #47 October 11, 2005 Well, your second and third quotes are only after he was put on the defensive. I agree that it should be put to rest and the thread should go back on track to Viking's initial post. Anything else on this matter should be handled in pm's before the thread has to be locked.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #48 October 11, 2005 post deleted.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #49 October 11, 2005 Let it go....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #50 October 11, 2005 Ooops I was typing when the response came in...no more about it...My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
