bbarnhouse 0 #1 October 1, 2005 Not only are fuel prices continuing to increase, but I received notice that the Federal Government is increasing the tax on jet fuel. When buying a full load of 8,000 gallons those extra "few cents" add up quickly. The DZOs are all trying to keep lift prices down. We've been holding off for as long as we can by pre-purchasing fuel. Rather like playing the stock market, and now this. Perhaps this is better in SC but that place skeers me! Call me frustrated and vexed in Arizona Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveStMarys 0 #2 October 1, 2005 I can't really shed any light on the subject, but know that I feel your pain. Bobbi/DZOA miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #3 October 1, 2005 QuoteI can't really shed any light on the subject, but know that I feel your pain. Makes me wonder how some of the smaller operators are dealing with the current issue. If its tough for the larger operators it's gotta be more so for the smaller DZs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #4 October 1, 2005 So let me see if I understand the logic (or lack thereof). A majority of the major airlines have filed bankruptcy because of rising fuel cost, so the government, in order to help, RAISES taxes on the fuel?Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #5 October 1, 2005 QuoteSo let me see if I understand the logic (or lack thereof). A majority of the major airlines have filed bankruptcy because of rising fuel cost, so the government, in order to help, RAISES taxes on the fuel? yeah that about sums it up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #6 October 1, 2005 Two words: BEND OVER Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #7 October 1, 2005 no lube either.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #8 October 1, 2005 QuoteMakes me wonder how some of the smaller operators are dealing with the current issue Raising prices flat out or adding fuel surcharges to jump ticket prices."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 October 1, 2005 Southwest did that. They had some cash reserves and pre-purchased fuel by locking the prices in at the low-30s-per-barrel price. If they were buying gas at todays prices, they would be operating at a loss also. Only part of their fuel needs for the next few years are still at the low rate, so their prices will be going up also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #10 October 1, 2005 QuoteNot only are fuel prices continuing to increase, but I received notice that the Federal Government is increasing the tax on jet fuel. When buying a full load of 8,000 gallons those extra "few cents" add up quickly. The DZOs are all trying to keep lift prices down. We've been holding off for as long as we can by pre-purchasing fuel. Rather like playing the stock market, and now this. Perhaps this is better in SC but that place skeers me! Call me frustrated and vexed in Arizona I feel your pain. When I was managing Z Hills, 85% of all our revenue went out the door in aircraft and fuel costs, yet we still tried to hold jump prices at Cessna levels while running a flight line of four Super Otters. If it continues in this direction, I can see that the only way that many places will be able to survive is a co-operative clubs, not businesses, like they do in Sweden. That way at least, there are tax advantages that can offset the other expenses. It's either that or we all start paying real prices for the services that major drop zones provide. I'm glad I'm not managing a big drop zone any more. It pried loose what few screws I had left. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #11 October 1, 2005 Well............there is one silver lining to this dark cloud. With all the fuel price problems I am going to get a GREAT deal when I buy my 2006 Dodge Quad Cab 4X4 with the Turbo Diesel. OK...........otherwise it sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 October 1, 2005 BUt GEE.. the oil boys are all running the government.. dont you know they have an engergy policy.. ( to enrich themselves at the expense of the American people) Mission Accomplished Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #13 October 1, 2005 QuoteTwo words: BEND OVER ...and take it like a MAN! linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #14 October 1, 2005 QuoteQuoteSo let me see if I understand the logic (or lack thereof). A majority of the major airlines have filed bankruptcy because of rising fuel cost, so the government, in order to help, RAISES taxes on the fuel? yeah that about sums it up! It's not just the aviation industry, either. Friends of mine that own companies with big ass diesel trucks are suckin' over here, too. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #15 October 2, 2005 Quoteno lube either. You want lube No problemo Pass the Ben Gay we'll give you some Lube R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #16 October 2, 2005 QuoteWell............there is one silver lining to this dark cloud. With all the fuel price problems I am going to get a GREAT deal when I buy my 2006 Dodge Quad Cab 4X4 with the Turbo Diesel. OK...........otherwise it sucks. Dodge you say. You should look it up, its right there in the dictionary. "avoid, go around, stay away from, evade" what else do you need to know about dodge? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #17 October 2, 2005 I tried explaining that to him. As god as my witness, he will never get lucky in that truck... lolSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #18 October 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteTwo words: BEND OVER ...and take it like a MAN! linz BOHICA: Bend Over, Here It Comes Again Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #19 October 2, 2005 Clay, take note.... "I tried explaining that to him. As god as my witness, he will never get lucky in that truck... lol *****ORFUN # 69***** Begging him to keep it in the YELLOW" Sounds like a Mercedes or Beamer is in your future instead.... My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #20 October 2, 2005 FORD ..... American Made...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryno1972 0 #21 October 2, 2005 NO LUBEglad to be here!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #22 October 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteWell............there is one silver lining to this dark cloud. With all the fuel price problems I am going to get a GREAT deal when I buy my 2006 Dodge Quad Cab 4X4 with the Turbo Diesel. OK...........otherwise it sucks. Dodge you say. You should look it up, its right there in the dictionary. "avoid, go around, stay away from, evade" what else do you need to know about dodge? Dodge = Drips Oil Drops Grease Everywhere Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanda965 0 #23 October 2, 2005 I hope we have a change for the positive soon, but I am afraid this price spike for gasoline is going to be a continuous trend now... we need someone to invent hybrid engines for our planes for the future...Blue skies and SAFE landings! ~Amanda~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #24 October 2, 2005 In reference to fuel prices.......NO LUBE In reference to buying a dodge.......They use VICS VAPOR RUB for lube.........ouch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinchicken 0 #25 October 2, 2005 QuoteI tried explaining that to him. As god as my witness, he will never get lucky in that truck... lol That's funny "Diligent observation leads to pure abstraction". Lari Pittman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
