someday 0 #1 July 11, 2008 anyone who knows more then me, do you think a PD storm is ok for a 100 jump wonder getting his first rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #2 July 12, 2008 I'd venture to say yes, depending on the size/WL you wind up with... and you have the added advantage of having a CRW friendly canopy if you ever desire to dabble on the dark side... Disregarding the whole "not knowing what dicipline you'll follow" or the "downsizing in a few hundred jumps and getting enuff on the resale to buy another canopy" arguments... I think you should def buy one! In fact, get two if you can afford it... Preferable Blue ones, with orange and white thrown in. Oh, and make sure you get the CRW set-up too... And when your ready to downsize, just let me know. Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #3 July 12, 2008 >do you think a PD storm is ok for a 100 jump wonder getting his first rig Perhaps give it a bit longer, so that the canopy has a bit of a track record. PD is a great company and they do extensive testing on their products (heck, I even did a few 'test jumps' on one of the prototypes) but it doesn't have much of a track record yet, and it will be difficult for anyone to give you a good recommendation until there's more experience with it in the field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someday 0 #4 July 12, 2008 hmm what about seven cells in general? what about an icaurs omni? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #5 July 12, 2008 Quoteanyone who knows more then me, do you think a PD storm is ok for a 100 jump wonder getting his first rig The storm is a perfect canopy for someone with 100 jumps - assuming proper wing loading. I'm impressed that PD is working to produce better and better canopies for those who need or prefer moderate performance. When you're ready for more performance, I'd bet you'll have no problem selling a Storm to the next guy.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeyo 1 #6 July 12, 2008 Quotehmm what about seven cells in general? depends on wingloading and what disciplines you want to do... i bought a 7cell as my first canopy because i knew i wanted to do wingsuits, crew, accuracy, base, demos, etc...if i was into swooping, i would have bought a semielliptical like sabre2 or a pilot. not saying that 9cells are not good for other disciplines, but thats how i decided what to buy.HISPA #93 DS #419.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #7 July 12, 2008 If the Storm is anything like PD is telling us, then it's an excellent canopy for someone with 100 jumps. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Scatter- 0 #8 July 12, 2008 I don't know nothin bout nothin, but I do know your reserve is a seven cell... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 July 12, 2008 QuoteIf the Storm is anything like PD is telling us, then it's an excellent canopy for someone with 100 jumps. It is something like PD is telling us and it is an excellent canopy for someone with 100 jumps. Of course, that is if its jumped at an appropriate wingloading for the jumper's experience. I talked about the production demo I jumped a few weeks ago in another thread and all in all the best way to describe it is as a 7-cell Sabre2 that opens better then a Spectre. Impressive to say the least.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
countzero 7 #10 July 12, 2008 QuoteQuoteIf the Storm is anything like PD is telling us, then it's an excellent canopy for someone with 100 jumps. It is something like PD is telling us and it is an excellent canopy for someone with 100 jumps. Of course, that is if its jumped at an appropriate wingloading for the jumper's experience. I talked about the production demo I jumped a few weeks ago in another thread and all in all the best way to describe it is as a 7-cell Sabre2 that opens better then a Spectre. Impressive to say the least. X2 on what dave said. having recently demoed a storm and a spectre. i'd pick the storm. it's glide angle in full flight it less steep than the spectre and it's turns felt snappier (to me). but the openings and braked flight characteristics of the two were pretty much identical. contact PD about getting a demo. they'll get you one for your current skill level. cheersdiamonds are a dawgs best friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 July 12, 2008 OK, so this means that the market value of a Spectre has just decreased because the Storm has everything the Spectre has...plus more. Sounds like in a few months it will be an excellent buyers' market for used Spectres! I think that having a decent supply of affordable yet reliable used gear on the market is good for the sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #12 July 13, 2008 Don't overlook the Aerodyne Triathlon. It's an excellent canopy.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someday 0 #13 July 13, 2008 can someone explain the differences between a 7 cell and 9 cell in flight? what can a 7 cell do or not do, that a 9 cell can? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #14 July 13, 2008 Very recently I have seen a guy (of 300-400 jumps) weighting 210 lbs doing a beautiful landing with a Storm 150.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #15 July 13, 2008 Quotecan someone explain the differences between a 7 cell and 9 cell in flight? what can a 7 cell do or not do, that a 9 cell can? Try a search, plenty of theads about 7cell vs 9cell canopies. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #16 July 14, 2008 We had every storm size between 135 and 190 at Mile Hi this weekend for a demo weekend (thanks PD). I jumped the 135 loaded 1.7. A 60 jump new to the sport guy jumped the 190 loaded 1 to 1. We both liked it. Both had soft easy landings at high altitude, no wind, high density altitude days. I would have no problem recommending it to newer skydivers... Dare I say it, I like it better than a Sabre 2... Some people think more cells the better... Well this 7 cell canopy proves differently. Get a demo. Jump the demo. If you like, buy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 #17 July 15, 2008 I jumped a 150 eliptical at probably 40jumps, loaded at 1.4. Not the best of ideas(no crapping me out, that has been done), but with respect I learnt how to fly it, not once slammed in. So, for 100jumps, the person should decide if he is comfortable with his canopy skills, and remember not to hook it after the 3rd or 4th flight that went well. Yes, 100jump wonder can jump it, careful of the wl.You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #18 July 15, 2008 QuoteI jumped a 150 eliptical at probably 40jumps, loaded at 1.4. Not the best of ideas(no crapping me out, that has been done), but with respect I learnt how to fly it, not once slammed in. Yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #19 July 15, 2008 I just spent a couple of weekends with a demo Storm 135 and my impression is that it's a perfect first canopy, if it's loaded appropriately. I have a couple hundred jumps on Spectres and overall I'd say that the Storm is a refined Spectre with slightly quicker openings and a stronger flare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #20 July 15, 2008 QuoteYet. Sorry for the redundancy, but I thought it worth repeating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #21 July 15, 2008 Quotebut with respect I learnt how to fly it, not once slammed in. This is a scary statement. You have 90 jumps over 2 years and believe you have developed the skills to fly a canopy loaded at 1.4. When the shit hits the fan things can happen really, really quick. Vaya Con Dios SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someday 0 #22 July 15, 2008 ok in response to potatoe man, im sure if i could i would choose something above my skill level (not that bad) but i have the same mentality, i think i would be ok teaching myself on a hp canopy, but i think its time for me to make a smarter decision for once, not really a sport for much error..i think ill take it slower then you hah.. i just need something a bit more forgiving because i think im cool and i try stupid stuff. cool ok thanks are 7 cells unswoopable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnKaLi 0 #23 July 15, 2008 I'm no expert, but I'd say yes. I demoed it when PD was at our boogie and I only had 75 jumps at the time. Freakin loved that thing, turns were a blast, but it was predictable like my Triathlon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 July 15, 2008 QuoteI just spent a couple of weekends with a demo Storm 135 and my impression is that it's a perfect first canopy, if it's loaded appropriately. I have a couple hundred jumps on Spectres and overall I'd say that the Storm is a refined Spectre with slightly quicker openings and a stronger flare. A follow-up question, since I've been thinking about switching to a Spectre for softer openings, but now I'm intrigued by the Storm: since you found the Storm to have quicker openings, did you find the Storm's openings to be as soft or less soft than your Spectre? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #25 July 16, 2008 I had great openings on the Storm. Soft and on heading, just like a Spectre, just marginally quicker than a Spectre. Same snatch force, but the Storm snivels a little less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites