Slider behind head, or above risers?

[potatoman 0]

Hi,

Not sure if this is the right place, so please move if need be.

Why do some people prefer the slider to down over the toggles and riser, to sit behind the head, over having it stop above the risers?

What is the pro's/cons of both?

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[AggieDave 6]

Having the slider on top of the risers:

Pro: it is one less step and complication upon opening. If you have bumpers then the slider should stay out of the way of your toggles.

Cons: It increases wear on your lines.

Pulling the slider down to the base of your risers:

Pro: It flattens your canopy for better performance. It gets the slider out of the way for better visibility. All the "cool kids" do it ()

Cons: The slider and ride back up the risers and block your vision. The slider can ride back up your lines and interfere with your toggles. It adds another complication to opening and can knock a toggle loose while messing with the slider.

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[potatoman 0]

one of the cons eliminated with a little velcro/clip on the back of the helmet.....to keep slider from going back up.
(Not always so succesfull, when you turn your head, it tends to come loose)

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Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD.

[AggieDave 6]

Yes and no. Most people don't put a slider keeper on their helmet. They will put it on their rig or their jumpsuit. Some people consider that a con.

I put Hookit's slocks on my risers when I still jumped with a standard slider. Those worked pretty well too.

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[realpet 0]

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Yes and no. Most people don't put a slider keeper on their helmet. They will put it on their rig or their jumpsuit.

*shiver* Anything (extra) connected from the main canopy setup to helmet/rig/jumpsuit sounds very much like a braindead idea. Cutaway..

- Petri

[riggerrob 643]

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one of the cons eliminated with a little velcro/clip on the back of the helmet.....to keep slider from going back up.
(Not always so succesfull, when you turn your head, it tends to come loose)

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Scary!

There are safer alternatives.
I sewed a bunch of slider-catchers to main risers - when I worked for Rigging Innovations - more than a decade ago.
Since then a half-dozen other patterns have been proven: Brian Germain's Slocks, etc.
Lately I have been sewing triangular "Andreas" pattern slider-catchers to main risers.

[mnealtx 0]

I'm given to understand that pulling the slider down is only really applicable if you're using mini risers - something to think on.

Mike
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[RPC1117 0]

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*shiver* Anything (extra) connected from the main canopy setup to helmet/rig/jumpsuit sounds very much like a braindead idea. Cutaway..

- Petri

Skysystems has a new slider keeper called the Skytie (I think that's what they named it). It uses an elastic band that is slid up the top reserve flap to the yoke. Attached to the elastic band is a piece of webbing that has two magnets that keep the keeper closed before and after you stow your slider. I thought that it is pretty creative and seems to be less worrisome than velcro or the plastic balls.

I've had one for a few weeks and like it. It is very easy to use and holds the slider well. And.....I look much cooler

[matc 0]

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Skysystems has a new slider keeper called the Skytie (I think that's what they named it). It uses an elastic band that is slid up the top reserve flap to the yoke. Attached to the elastic band is a piece of webbing that has two magnets that keep the keeper closed before and after you stow your slider. I thought that it is pretty creative and seems to be less worrisome than velcro or the plastic balls.

Do you have any more information ? I checked Sky systems' web site but didn't find anything

[d123 3]

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Cons: It increases wear on your lines.

I've been told that slinks, slink covers and a slider that's 2 line collapsible will the decrease a lot the wear.

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[RPC1117 0]

I don't have any more info....call them. I got mine at a boogie from the systems tent.

[AggieDave 6]

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*shiver* Anything (extra) connected from the main canopy setup to helmet/rig/jumpsuit sounds very much like a braindead idea. Cutaway..

Hook and swoop did some tests and found out that the typical velcro slider keeper on a rig or jumpsuit did not have enough strength to even hold the weight of the rig up. Now assuming that your canopy is even 10% inflated when you chop it after you already stowed your slider (which is rare in the first place), the chances of the velcro holding you to your main super slim. Slim enough that you probably have a better chance of having your shoe strings create a line over on your reserve.

Either way I still personally prefer slocks sewn on the risers. That's after I used the jumpsuit velcro method for a few hundred jumps.

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