mx757 4 #1 September 22, 2005 - A Jet Blue airliner landed safely at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Thursday after its pilot reported a problem with the wing flaps as the plane prepared to descend, an airline spokeswoman said. No injuries were reported. The emergency landing came one day after another of the airline's planes circled Southern California for hours with a faulty landing gear. That plane also landed without any injuries, but passengers watched in horror as they saw the drama unfold on news broadcasts on their in-flight TVs. According to Jet Blue spokeswoman Jenny Dervin, Flight No. 32 departed from Tampa, Fla., at 11:56 a.m. Thursday. As the plane was preparing to land at JFK, the pilot "received an indication the (flaps) were locked," she said. "Following procedure, the pilot declared an emergency landing." The plane touched down at 2:24 p.m., and the passengers were brought to an airport gate for a normal exit from the aircraft, Dervin said. It was unclear if the flaps actually were locked or if it was a false alarm. Arlene Murray, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, confirmed the plane landed without incident and described the incident as "very minor." Wednesday's flight with the crippled landing gear also was destined for New York City. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #2 September 22, 2005 Are you working on those planesMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #3 September 22, 2005 here's where Jetblue get's their aircraft repaired at.. in south America Nice CHEAP $$ PAYING OUTFIT. Additional Incidents On November 1, 2002, an Airbus A320, being operated by JetBlue landed at the John F. Kennedy International (JFK) Airport, New York, New York, with its NLG turned 90 degrees. This airplane had come out of maintenance where the NLG dynamic seal was replaced approximately 3 days prior to the incident. The airplane had flown 15 cycles and 23 hours between the completion of the maintenance and the incident. The investigation into this incident revealed the same findings as were found on N804UA. The upper centering cam on the inner cylinder had been mis-installed. This resulted in the anti-rotation lugs not being perpendicular to the axle and consequently the lugs were not properly seated in the backplate slots. Did anyone notice how the people reporting the Jet-Blue incident made it sound like a commercial for Air Bus. The fly by wire, TV's at each seat etc. How the nose gear was really stout. Not a word about where their maint. is done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #4 September 22, 2005 QuoteAre you working on those planes Not me I only work on the B-767 & B-777 at overhaul base here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #5 September 22, 2005 QuoteQuoteAre you working on those planes Not me I only work on the B-767 & B-777 at overhaul base here. Well then, those will be the only ones I fly onMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #6 September 22, 2005 JetBlue sends their aircraft to San Salvador for maintenance, the nose gear dynamic seals are a scheduled change item in a "C" check the nose gear must be removed and reinstalled during this procedure the manufacturers maintenance manuals have been revised to address the flawed design of this assembly Jet Blue maintence manuals are written in English the Federal Air Regulations do not require mechanics to speak/ read English in San Salvador The assumption is that outsoucing maintenance to San Salvador caused this problem because Jet Blue mechanics only perform LIGHT Line Maintenance. the San Salvador mechanics are paid next to nothing. You make more money flipping burgers in the USA than they do. they don't have read / write / understand English (Jet Blue'saircraft Manuals are in English) no 10 year background checks or drug test and retraining like were required here in USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #7 September 22, 2005 Oh yea America West and soon US Airway sends their aircraft to the same place as JetBlue... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otterboy 0 #8 September 22, 2005 Don't forget the fact that Airbus (scare bus) is the aircraft version of a ugo. Planned obsolescence is the french way. They almost give away the plane but parts are big $$$$. Don't get me started on the morality of a subsidized consortium competing with a U.S. company in the U.S. Old Boeings may burn a lot of gas but they hold up like a tank. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #9 September 22, 2005 Quoteis the aircraft version of a ugo What is a Ugo? QuotePlanned obsolescence is the french way Damn right. That's why we built New Orleans. QuoteDon't get me started on the morality of a subsidized consortium competing with a U.S. company in the U.S. Develop... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 September 22, 2005 I think he meant Yugo, the old 2-door car built in the former Yugoslavia. Hear about the 4-door Yugo that was planned? It was called the "We-go."--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #11 September 23, 2005 QuoteOh yea America West and soon US Airway sends their aircraft to the same place as JetBlue... Makes me happy to know that most times I fly United. I know, I know, you'll find something wrong with those A/C too. Ya pay your money, you take your chancesMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 September 23, 2005 QuoteYa pay your money, you take your chances The irony to that statement is my fiance packed me my first cutaway nearly 2 years ago...your statement reminded me of that and just made me laugh very very hard!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #13 September 23, 2005 QuoteI think he meant Yugo, the old 2-door car built in the former Yugoslavia. Hear about the 4-door Yugo that was planned? It was called the "We-go." Damn....I thought that WE thought that everything inferior was either Mexican or French. This whole Yugoslavia thing's liable to cause a ripple-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #14 September 23, 2005 Funny, when Jack was alive, he packed a malfunction for me too. What do you think they were trying to tell us?May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 September 23, 2005 Maybe that pimping life insurance I have with my new job will cause a problem with Morgan being the sole recipiant...hmmmm...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #16 September 23, 2005 and it makes me glad that, mostly, I drive. BUT....gotta tell this story again because it brings me so much joy....when I flew from Little Rock to philly to orlando to littlerock, I was "chosen" for the more extensive search on 2 of the 3 legs. From Philly to Orlando (I think) I was spread eagle getting searched when the security guy appears with my rig: Security guy: Does this belong to you? Me: Yes Security guy: Is this a parachute? Me: Yes Security guy: Do you use this to jump off of bridges? Me: No....Airplanes. Security guy: Are you going to wear this on this flight? Me: No sir. He walked away without ever cracking a smile.... What's up those guys' asses???? Whew....it's tight in there. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #17 September 23, 2005 Quote Don't forget the fact that Airbus (scare bus) is the aircraft version of a ugo. Really? Wow. All that modern comfort must be there just to lull me into a false sense of security. QuotePlanned obsolescence is the french way. I thought it was the way of the Japanese electronics company? QuoteDon't get me started on the morality of a subsidized consortium competing with a U.S. company in the U.S. And Boeing receives no subsidies? Neither side can claim the moral high ground in that particular trade dispute. QuoteOld Boeings may burn a lot of gas but they hold up like a tank. True. Much like a Yugo . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derekbox 0 #18 September 23, 2005 Why don’t we get down to the real issue - Airbus is not American and Boeing is. Fact of the matter is today, with rising costs of everything, outsourcing has become a way to cut corners and make money. The same company overhauling Airbus's offshore is also overhauling Boeings too. Boeings are not immune to poor maintenance either. I have never worked on Airbus's, or Boeings for that matter - but everyone who I know who has worked on them (airbus's) says they are well designed planes and nice to work on. Something I think people should be bitching at is the management of these companies. Jet Blue is one of the few carriers right now turning a profit. All the classic carriers who use there own American, unionized (expensive) maintenance are drowning. Quickly at that. Bitching isn’t going to help. Outsourcing is the way of the future until we see drastic changes economic policies here in America, restructuring of management chains and wealth redistribution (How much does any typical CEO make vs. the man on the floor turning wrenches for the same company?). Do that math. The numbers add up = you can not pay American workers, American worker wages, charge a competitive price and still make a profit. D'Bo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #19 September 23, 2005 Yup.... The truth hurts doesnt it... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
