Tampering with equipment

[veter_ 0]

Have there been incidents caused by tampering with the equipment or known attempts of tampering? If you know any information, please share.

My parachute may have been tampered with recently. I left the rig after a jump in the packing area, stowed the brakes and uncollapsed the slider (completely, as I always do). When I returned later, I noticed that one side of the slider was half collapsed. If you don't pay close attention, the slider can be quartered without you noticing that it's half collapsed.

Asymmetrically collapsed slider may cause - I'm guessing here - a hard opening, slider hang up, or spinning.

I experimented a little bit and it's virtually impossible to collapse the slider by accidentally stepping on it or on the lines. If you pull the lines, they tend to uncollapse the slider. Looks like the only way to collapse is to pull the tab on the slider.

[phoenixlpr 0]

Yeah. I see you have a curse. Getting on the Bounce Bingo list on the Ranche and now someone wants to kill you for the $100 pot.

Grow up and come back when you have an identity.

Edit: Spelling...

[larsrulz 0]

Back in 1996 at Archway Skydiving, where I jump, Kirk Verner's equipment was tampered with and nearly killed the jumper who had borrowed it from Kirk. The main bridle had been cut as had one reserve riser. Fortunately the reserve managed to slow the jumper enough to not kill him, but merely leave him with serious injuries. Never found out who had sabotaged his gear.

I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF

[jlmiracle 7]

In the movie Dropzone, I saw the guy cut the cutaway cable, but where he cut it should have not caused the malfunction that we saw. Even though that rigged had logged one world championship for the chicky poo and 2 for the dead guy with the fat sack of coke it still malfunctioned.

Dude, you really really really need to move on.

I would put down $10.00 that YOU did not completely uncollapse your slider. I've done it from time to time, but catch it when I quarter it.



If someone really wanted you dead and was going to tamper with your rig, you would probably be dead.

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[nate_1979 9]

Has there been? One case comes to mind, but people are torn whether or not it really was someone tampering with his equipment..

Is it happening to you? Seriously... You think your that special that someone would take the time to mess with your gear? Get real. NOBODY IS SCREWING WITH YOUR RIG. and as I've said before, if you quarter your slider and dont notice that it's partially colapsed, your an accident waiting to happen. (and by nobodys fault but your own)
I dont see how you couldnt notice something like that during packing..

FGF #???
I miss the sky...
There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

[jerry81 10]

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Have there been incidents caused by tampering with the equipment or known attempts of tampering? If you know any information, please share.

There have been cases, yes. The most recent probably being the Steven Hilder incident in UK, which I believe is still under investigation.
Then there are also the occasional flour bombs which would probably qualify, but are much more benign in nature.

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My parachute may have been tampered with recently. I left the rig after a jump in the packing area, stowed the brakes and uncollapsed the slider. When I returned later, I noticed that one side of the slider was half collapsed. If you don't pay close attention, the slider can be quartered without you noticing that it's half collapsed.

If you think you could miss something as crucial as your slider not being completely open when you quarter it, then I'd suggest you think really hard and try to remember if it perhaps wasn't you who forgot to uncollapse one side...

A partially closed slider would give you an interesting opening, that's for sure. But if someone was indeed trying to tamper with your gear, they'd have to be pretty dumb to expect you to miss that, especially since it was done before you even started your packjob.

A slightly more plausible explanation would be that someone was just trying to see how much attention you pay to your packing (with a reason, perhaps?). But still a lot less plausible than you simply forgetting to uncollapse one side of the slider.

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[speedy 0]

Example A)
Here in Germany a guy repacked a girls main with a guaranteed mal, then reclosed the reserve so that the loop was not routed through the cypres cutter, then cut through the reserve cable. It worked, the girl died.

Example B)
Last weekend someone tied a knot in my bridle while I wasn't looking. That did not work, I just untied the knot.

Can you you see where you fit in here? A or B

Dave

Fallschirmsport Marl

[billvon 3,049]

>When I returned later, I noticed that one side of the slider was half collapsed.

Happens to me quite often. I will uncollapse the slider in the landing area, and when I go to pack it, the slider will have partly collapsed again. In my case it's due to the tube on the slider taking a bit of a "set" - it likes to remain collapsed, especially if it's wadded up for the carry back. Sometimes I just plain screw up and only unkill one side in the landing area. Which for me isn't a big deal, since it gets looked at three times - once in the landing area, once when packing starts, and once during the final quartering.

[frost 1]

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Happens to me quite often.

Have you thought about filing a law suit against the dropzone? That may remedy the issue.

SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you.

[frost 1]

Yura, as your friend i must warn you... I just heard from a very reliable source that there is a conspiracy to kill you at the Ranch. It goes all the way to the DZO and the S&TA(s). PLEASE BE CAREFULL!! AVOID RANCH AT ALL COST! Perhaps you will be safer at Cross Keys or Skydive Long Island. To be completely safe, you may want to consider moving to the west coast.

SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you.

[nate_1979 9]

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To be completely safe, you may want to consider moving to the west coast.

HEY, HEY, HEY!!!

Hold the phone...

As they say, take advice given on DZ.COM with a grain of salt.. Some people just dont know what they hell they are talking about!

FGF #???
I miss the sky...
There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

[Hooknswoop 19]

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My parachute may have been tampered with recently.

No one tampered with your gear. You didn't un-collapse that side. If someone wanted to tamper with your gear, they wouldn't have collapsed 1/2 of your slider and left the rig unbpacked so you could see it when you packed.

It is obvious why you are on the list. Are there any more positions available in the pool? I'll throw in $10.00.

Derek

[nate_1979 9]

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I wonder how many incidents have been avoided because DZ.com exists?

I wonder how many incidents have been avoided because of the shock value of politically incorrect actions people take at a DZ

FGF #???
I miss the sky...
There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

[frost 1]

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It is obvious why you are on the list. Are there any more positions available in the pool? I'll throw in $10.00.

Derek

I think his stock just went up by like 900%... Too bad i didnt get on it early - i may have been able to retire as early as this year.

SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you.

[TALONSKY 0]

Instead of asking these kinds of questions, you should be asking what you did that apparently got you into a mind set that someone would mess with your equipment. Either fix your head and the relationships that lead down this path or leave that DZ. I a quite sure there is no one there that would hate you enough to try and kill you. Is it not more plausible that you just forgot to unclasped that one side rather than a conspiracy theory that people at the DZ are trying to kill you. Seriously, you need to fix your head and attitude.
Kirk

[Hooknswoop 19]

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I think his stock just went up by like 900%... Too bad i didnt get on it early - i may have been able to retire as early as this year.

LOL, ya those tickets are expensive now, supply vs. demand.

He may be on to something though. Someone tampered with my motorcycle. When I took the ocver off and tried to start it this morning, it wouldn't start. Someone had removed the cover, turned the switch on the throttle side to 'Off', and put the cover back exactly as I had it before. I can't believe someone would do that, I mean what if I hadn't seen the switch? People will tamper with anything.

Derek

[veter_ 0]

Mike Shatalov, why you feel so insecure?

I take threats without a sense of humor.

[frost 1]

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Mike Shatalov, why you feel so insecure?

uhm... I feel fine. Why do YOU feel so insecure?

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I take threats without a sense of humor.

I think that's pretty clear to anyone who has read your posts in the last few days.

I'd venture to say that besides a sense of humor, you also lack common sense

SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you.

[justinb138 0]

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Mike Shatalov, why you feel so insecure?

I take threats without a sense of humor.

Things must be difficult from your perspective.

[slug 1]

Veter

Seriously Try jumping at another DZ who knows you might even like the new DZ better than "the ranch"

If that don't work for you try another DZ until you find one you like. You don't have to jump at "the ranch".

R.I.P.

[frost 1]

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Things must be difficult from your perspective.

THAT was TOTALLY fitting! LMAO

SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you.

[billvon 3,049]

Frost, Justin, enough. No personal attacks of any kind here.

[hookitt 1]

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My parachute may have been tampered with recently.

I highly doubt it.

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I left the rig after a jump in the packing area, stowed the brakes and uncollapsed the slider (completely, as I always do).

Sure about that?

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When I returned later, I noticed that one side of the slider was half collapsed.

Guess you weren't sure. Thanks for sharing.

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[daniel_owen_uk 0]

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Have there been incidents caused by tampering with the equipment or known attempts of tampering? If you know any information, please share.

My parachute may have been tampered with recently. I left the rig after a jump in the packing area, stowed the brakes and uncollapsed the slider (completely, as I always do). When I returned later, I noticed that one side of the slider was half collapsed. If you don't pay close attention, the slider can be quartered without you noticing that it's half collapsed.

Asymmetrically collapsed slider may cause - I'm guessing here - a hard opening, slider hang up, or spinning.

I experimented a little bit and it's virtually impossible to collapse the slider by accidentally stepping on it or on the lines. If you pull the lines, they tend to uncollapse the slider. Looks like the only way to collapse is to pull the tab on the slider.

What did the police say when you contacted them?

What do you mean you didn't contact them?

Surely if you are so sure, you would have contacted them, tampering with something like that is attempted murder surely?

YOU ARE MAKING THINGS WORSE FOR YOURSELF!

I can't make it clearer than that.

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[ladyskydiver 0]

oh...boy....here we go again.

Hey...I'm in on the pool if there's still an open slot.

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