jraf 0 #101 July 12, 2005 Hy...hy,hy......hyhyhy....hyhy...hyjraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #102 July 12, 2005 Quoteeveryone has to make their own choices.. me? i plan to experience everything i can...or at least everything i find interesting... Exactly. But, there are things that I certainly would not recommend. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #103 July 12, 2005 Quote Exactly. But, there are things that I certainly would not recommend. Like law school? --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #104 July 12, 2005 Quoteeveryone does drugs, legality simply depends on culture and jurisdiction.. neither of which have any real bearing on their value or experience... but wont stop anyone from feeling superior to some who makes different personal choices... I think the real difference should not be legality but instead the purpose and the harm incurred. For instance, I think caffiene is almost harmless, so I could care less about coffee addicts. Too much acetaminophene is actually a lot more harmful than people know but due to the lack of awareness of the people using it, I won't hold it against them. Alcohol, nicotene, marijuana, cocaine, etc are recreational drugs with no other benifit. It tend to have less respect for the use of these drugs, as they seem to show the ignorance of the user who made that choice, because in the end he still has gained nothing. I think a choice would more likely apply to someone who used performance enhancing drugs. These people are far more likely to have weighed their options and thought through the positive and negative effects from their choice. I would respect them more than a recreational drug user always. Although I have looked at the entire picture before making an opinion its still my opinion, so I will leave it at that.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #105 July 12, 2005 Other than mary-jane and alchohol,nadda for me. No cigarettes, though, I feel complelled to add. It scares me to try something someone concocted in their basement. Edit--wow, after reading everyone' comments, I don't feel so innocent anymore. Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #106 July 12, 2005 QuoteIt tend to have less respect for the use of these drugs, as they seem to the ignorance of the user who made that choice, because in the end he still has gained nothing. gained nothing???? shit i will tell you this, i have gained alot form recreational drug use..... nothing that is productive, but hell i had a good time while high back in high school, don't get me wrong though, i've had just a good a time stone cold sober... but it's nothing that one doesn't get anything out of it, it's just that it is mesurable only to that person..... p.s. my spelling was already this bad before i ever did drugs, so don't hold that against me..... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #107 July 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteIt tend to have less respect for the use of these drugs, as they seem to the ignorance of the user who made that choice, because in the end he still has gained nothing. gained nothing???? shit i will tell you this, i have gained alot form recreational drug use..... nothing that is productive, but hell i had a good time while high back in high school, don't get me wrong though, i've had just a good a time stone cold sober... but it's nothing that one doesn't get anything out of it, it's just that it is mesurable only to that person..... p.s. my spelling was already this bad before i ever did drugs, so don't hold that against me..... Ok, its true that they will get a certain temporary feeling and that many will state that they enjoy this feeling. So I guess I should have specified gained nothing concrete. But then again, having had a feeling does not mean you gained something. Actually after the "good feeling" goes away, they are right back where they started, with nothing new to show for.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #108 July 12, 2005 Quote But then again, having had a feeling does not mean you gained something. Actually after the "good feeling" goes away, they are right back where they started, with nothing new to show for. it's entertainment value... just like playing craps, if lose my money i still gained because i was entertaained for a while....... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #109 July 12, 2005 QuoteI don't know who the hell you are trying to convince that drugs are NOT bad for you...come on, for the love of Pete...even cigarette smokers admit the shit is bad for you. Who the hell are you kidding?! Maybe they're not kidding anyone. Check out this article about a study done by Donald Tashkin, "It is Tashkin's research that the Drug Czar's office cites in ads linking marijuana to lung cancer." Quote"Our major hypothesis," he told the ICRS, "was that heavy, longterm use of marijuana will increase the risk of lung and upper-airwaves cancers." The Los Angeles County Cancer Surveillance program provided Tashkin's team with the names of 1,209 L.A. residents aged 59 or younger with cancer (611 lung, 403 oral/pharyngeal, 90 laryngeal, 108 esophageal). Interviewers collected extensive lifetime histories of marijuana, tobacco, alcohol and other drug use, and data on diet, occupational exposures, family history of cancer, and various "socio-demographic factors." Exposure to marijuana was measured in joint years (joints per day x 365). Controls were found based on age, gender and neighborhood. Among them, 46% had never used marijuana, 31% had used less than one joint year, 12% had used 10-30 j-yrs, 2% had used 30-60 j-yrs, and 3% had used for more than 60 j-yrs. Tashkin controlled for tobacco use and calculated the relative risk of marijuana use resulting in lung and upper airwaves cancers. All the odds ratios turned out to be less than one (one being equal to the control group's chances)! Compared with subjects who had used less than one joint year, the estimated odds ratios for lung cancer were .78; for 1-10 j-yrs, .74; for 10-30 j-yrs, .85 for 30-60 j-yrs; and 0.81 for more than 60 j-yrs. The estimated odds ratios for oral/pharyngeal cancers were 0.92 for 1-10 j-yrs; 0.89 for 10-30 j-yrs; 0.81 for 30-60 j-yrs; and 1.0 for more than 60 j-yrs. "Similar, though less precise results were obtained for the other cancer sites," Tashkin reported. "We found absolutely no suggestion of a dose response." The data on tobacco use, as expected, revealed "a very potent effect and a clear dose-response relationship -a 21-fold greater risk of developing lung cancer if you smoke more than two packs a day." Similarly high odds obtained for oral/pharyngeal cancer, laryngeal cancer and esophageal cancer. "So, in summary" Tashkin concluded, "we failed to observe a positive association of marijuana use and other potential confounders." There was time for only one question, said the moderator, and San Francisco oncologist Donald Abrams, M.D., was already at the microphone: "You don't see any positive correlation, but in at least one category [marijuana-only smokers and lung cancer], it almost looked like there was a negative correlation, i.e., a protective effect. Could you comment on that?" "Yes," said Tashkin. "The odds ratios are less than one almost consistently, and in one category that relationship was significant, but I think that it would be difficult to extract from these data the conclusion that marijuana is protective against lung cancer. But that is not an unreasonable hypothesis." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #110 July 12, 2005 QuoteAlcohol, nicotene, marijuana, cocaine, etc are recreational drugs with no other benifit. Care to support this statement? I can think of valid medical uses for at least two of these drugs, and I'm not sure Cocaine is wholly without legitimate uses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #111 July 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteAlcohol, nicotene, marijuana, cocaine, etc are recreational drugs with no other benifit. Care to support this statement? I can think of valid medical uses for at least two of these drugs, and I'm not sure Cocaine is wholly without legitimate uses. Yeah but I don't think this thread was started to ask if anybody had ever used drugs following a doctor's prescription. And I don't think that what they had in mind was somebody who was using them for medicinal purposes inspite of not having a prescription to do so.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #112 July 12, 2005 Smoking weed is a good deed! Burning hay makes my day! Grass is good, better than food! Using dope gives you hope!jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #113 July 12, 2005 QuoteI don't think this thread was started to ask if anybody had ever used drugs following a doctor's prescription. And I don't think that what they had in mind was somebody who was using them for medicinal purposes inspite of not having a prescription to do so. You said tyhere were no non-recreational benefits for drugs like marijuana, nicotine and cocaine. That is clearly untrue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcneill79 0 #114 July 12, 2005 So how many different drugs do you think will be done at Lost Prairie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Icarus 0 #115 July 12, 2005 I heard that drugs are illeagle at lost Prairie ________________________________________ "What What..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tso-d_chris 0 #116 July 12, 2005 QuoteSo how many different drugs do you think will be done at Lost Prairie? All depends on how many different kinds of drugs are there! My guess is all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_owen_uk 0 #117 July 13, 2005 QuoteQuoteAlcohol, nicotene, marijuana, cocaine, etc are recreational drugs with no other benifit. Care to support this statement? I can think of valid medical uses for at least two of these drugs, and I'm not sure Cocaine is wholly without legitimate uses. Marijuana is used for medicinal purposes, for eating disorders and cheomo (sp?) treatment.__________________ BOOM Headshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
br0k3n 0 #118 July 13, 2005 QuoteQuoteif you dont try something for whatever reason (personal, religious, legal etc) you are depriving yourself of an experience.. it may be a good one or a bad one, and you will likely never know for sure, but you are STILL missing an experience.. Damn. I never thought about it that way. Next jump, I'll try a 270 under a Sabre 120. After all, I don't want to deny myself that experience. I would suggest that you wait a while, 18 jumps is a little earlier to start to swoop, get some more jumps and progressively downsize canopy’s. Get some coaching and don’t try to rush into it, otherwise you will hurt yourself…. Don’t worry you will get there eventually, and be able to experience the feeling of busting out a sweet 270 front riser approach… What this has to do with illegal drugs, im not quite sure...----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #119 July 13, 2005 Quote It tend to have less respect for the use of these drugs, as they seem to show the ignorance of the user who made that choice, because in the end he still has gained nothing. QuoteAnd If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favour. Go home tonight take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause You know the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAL fucking high on drugs -bill hicks ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #120 July 13, 2005 QuoteQuote It tend to have less respect for the use of these drugs, as they seem to show the ignorance of the user who made that choice, because in the end he still has gained nothing. QuoteAnd If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favour. Go home tonight take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause You know the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAL fucking high on drugs -bill hicks not to mention: artists, poets, wriiters, philosophers, good guys, bad guys, etc.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBob 0 #121 July 13, 2005 ***Gettin' to like you more by the minute there Psycho!!! Quote If your at WFFC the first round is on me."I'm not a gynecologist but I will take a look at it" RB #1295, Smokey Sister #1, HellFish #658, Dirty Sanchez #194, Muff Brothers #3834, POPS #9614, Orfun Foster-Parent?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skinnyshrek 0 #122 July 13, 2005 what are you buying???http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ACMESkydiver 0 #123 July 13, 2005 Call me crazy, but I just don't think 'lung cancer' was the major issue with marajuana. I'm thinking the altered state might be a tad more in line with what's dangerous...and I guess lower sperm count doesn't mean anything anymore? And the research from back in the late 80's about how it does permanent damage to your brain cells...wrong? I don't know. I haven't had the need to do in-depth research on the effects of marajuana. I just don't care. But geesh...as long as it doesn't cause lung cancer, it's good for you?! Come on, that's junk science at its worst. I think the point you are trying to make is that it isn't as bad for you in regards to lung cancer as cigarettes. Great. When's the last time you heard of someone falling off a balcony because they lost their mind smoking Marlboros? It still does bad things to people, even though the altered state might be a good thing to some. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PsychoBob 0 #124 July 13, 2005 ***what are you buying??? Quote Beer, shots, etc."I'm not a gynecologist but I will take a look at it" RB #1295, Smokey Sister #1, HellFish #658, Dirty Sanchez #194, Muff Brothers #3834, POPS #9614, Orfun Foster-Parent?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #125 July 13, 2005 Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 5 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
skinnyshrek 0 #122 July 13, 2005 what are you buying???http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #123 July 13, 2005 Call me crazy, but I just don't think 'lung cancer' was the major issue with marajuana. I'm thinking the altered state might be a tad more in line with what's dangerous...and I guess lower sperm count doesn't mean anything anymore? And the research from back in the late 80's about how it does permanent damage to your brain cells...wrong? I don't know. I haven't had the need to do in-depth research on the effects of marajuana. I just don't care. But geesh...as long as it doesn't cause lung cancer, it's good for you?! Come on, that's junk science at its worst. I think the point you are trying to make is that it isn't as bad for you in regards to lung cancer as cigarettes. Great. When's the last time you heard of someone falling off a balcony because they lost their mind smoking Marlboros? It still does bad things to people, even though the altered state might be a good thing to some. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBob 0 #124 July 13, 2005 ***what are you buying??? Quote Beer, shots, etc."I'm not a gynecologist but I will take a look at it" RB #1295, Smokey Sister #1, HellFish #658, Dirty Sanchez #194, Muff Brothers #3834, POPS #9614, Orfun Foster-Parent?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #125 July 13, 2005 Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 5 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
lisamariewillbe 1 #125 July 13, 2005 Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
