spencer 0 #1 November 14, 2008 Would some one kindly tell me How to get a USPA A Licence. Please spell it out to me. From start to finish. No OF jumps required, ect ect. What do I need to do, AAF levels, consoles. ect ect. Please spell it out for me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #2 November 14, 2008 http://uspa.org/Portals/0/Downloads/Form_ALicProfCard_2008_02.pdf all the requirements are on this card. Each block needs to be signed by a USPA rated Instructor. Judging from your profile (jump numbers) you should have most of this done already. Make sure these items are logged in your log book and an Instructor should have no problem signing for them. Join the USPA $51, and send in a copy of the completed card with the $20 license fee and you are done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #3 November 14, 2008 Quotehttp://uspa.org/Portals/0/Downloads/Form_ALicProfCard_2008_02.pdf all the requirements are on this card. Each block needs to be signed by a USPA rated Instructor. Judging from your profile (jump numbers) you should have most of this done already. Make sure these items are logged in your log book and an Instructor should have no problem signing for them. Join the USPA $51, and send in a copy of the completed card with the $20 license fee and you are done. A USPA membership plus a completed, stamped and signed A license card is also a valid A license. You don't have to send in the $20, but you do need to spend the $51 on a membership. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #4 November 14, 2008 QuoteA USPA membership plus a completed, stamped and signed A license card is also a valid A license. You don't have to send in the $20, but you do need to spend the $51 on a membership. What he said. However, the $20 is highly recommended. If you loose your stamped card, with out first sending in a copy for a number, then all is lost and you have to start over. However, to the OP, you have enough jumps to get a C license. All that info can be got from USPA.org. If you complete the requirements for A,B, and C then you could only pay the $20 for the C. Personaly, I only have a D number, skipped over the A,B, and C. But that is not the way I recommend to do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #5 November 14, 2008 please tell me how many jumps in total for A lience. with no repeat jumps. please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildfan75 1 #7 November 14, 2008 One could always make a copy of their A card and keep it in a safe place, which is what I recommend to all my newly A licensed folk. And before someone says something about the USPA needing an original...you can fax in your application, how are they going to tell if you fax in an original or a copy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #8 November 14, 2008 thanks for the info gato Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #9 November 14, 2008 do you have to do a one on one coach jumps for the A licence??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #10 November 14, 2008 No sweat, Spencer. Sometimes, on this site, it may take anywhere from 5 to 72 replies before you get a straight answer. I love this place. Edited to add: Yes, you have to do one-on-one jumps with a coach. They are referred-to as consul jumps. For example, you may make 7 AFF jumps, and then have to make 18 consul jumps to get your A.T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #11 November 14, 2008 Quote Yes, you have to do one-on-one jumps with a coach. They are referred-to as consul jumps. For example, you may make 7 AFF jumps, and then have to make 18 consul jumps to get your A. No, you do not have to do 18 coach jumps. You need 25 jumps, period, and have met all the requirements on either the 2 page or 4 page A license sheet. I'd venture that includes 4 or 5 coach jumps. The requirements are pretty easy to obtain at the USPA site. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #12 November 14, 2008 QuoteQuote Yes, you have to do one-on-one jumps with a coach. They are referred-to as consul jumps. For example, you may make 7 AFF jumps, and then have to make 18 consul jumps to get your A. No, you do not have to do 18 coach jumps. You need 25 jumps, period, and have met all the requirements on either the 2 page or 4 page A license sheet. I'd venture that includes 4 or 5 coach jumps. reply] You do if the dz program so dictates. Or find another dz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gato 0 #13 November 14, 2008 Soooooorrrrrrryyyyy. Don't everybody pounce on my mistake at once..... T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #14 November 15, 2008 Quote You do if the dz program so dictates. Or find another dz. If people want to pay extra, so be it. But it's not required for the A. At Skydance, the extra 13 coach jumps would have cost me an extra $780 in 2004. OTOH, Chicago's program seems to do mostly coach jumps for the 25 with a much less substantial additional cost. Sadly, California pricing is more formidable. DZs and their people gotta eat/live too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tetra316 0 #15 November 15, 2008 QuoteQuote You do if the dz program so dictates. Or find another dz. If people want to pay extra, so be it. But it's not required for the A. At Skydance, the extra 13 coach jumps would have cost me an extra $780 in 2004. OTOH, Chicago's program seems to do mostly coach jumps for the 25 with a much less substantial additional cost. Sadly, California pricing is more formidable. DZs and their people gotta eat/live too. It's not that people want to pay extra, its that they do not know any better. No dz I'm sure is going to be telling their students they can go somewhere else and get their A license for less. And I'm sure most students wouldn't even know where to begin to research dzs and prices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #16 November 15, 2008 However, once the student is cleared for solo status, it's pretty easy to jump to another DZ. I did, for a variety of reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spencer 0 #17 November 15, 2008 If the uspa states whats needed on there proficiency, there nothing on the card about coach jumps. Theres the basic aff levels a hop and pop, pack and jump the rig. some canopy skills a exam at the end , some spotting,equipment knowledge,land within 20 meters of target at least 5 times,emergency review. But nothing about one on one coach jumps, Total 25 jumps. So let me get this right, if a student can do all the above "without" any repeat jumps or coach jumps he can send of for his USPA A Licence. Total 25 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gato 0 #18 November 15, 2008 QuoteSo let me get this right, if a student can do all the above "without" any repeat jumps or coach jumps he can send of for his USPA A Licence. Total 25 jumps. Well, yes...but somehow, at some point, someone (a coach) has to be there in freefall with you to verify that you have the skills you need signed off on your card. I think it's left kind-of open ended by the USPA, because every student is different, and every dropzone has their own method of training. I'll give you a sample scenario: Joe goes to a dropzone with AFF. He passes all 7 jumps. He needs 18 more jumps to get his license, but there are still skills and tasks (TLOs) he must learn and be signed off on by an instructor (That are NOT covered/completed in the 7-jump AFF course). It may be that he can complete these things with only 3 coach jumps, or he may have to do 18 or even 25, depending on his skill level, retention, weather, etc.. It took me 32 jumps to get mine, but that was largely because of time between jumps and currency. DO NOT assume that you will be the perfect student with perfect marks in your logbook, who gets there in exactly 25 jumps. Just go freakin' jump, and enjoy yourself.T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 348 #19 November 15, 2008 http://www.skydivecity.com/html/students/aff/AFF1through7.htm at the bottom of the page is a link to our PDF file that steps you through typical progression to finish your license.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spencer 0 #20 November 15, 2008 I thought console jumps were solo jumps which the student did after finishing all the aff levels, I do not see anywhere on the proficiency card about having to do coach jumps, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AllisonH 0 #21 November 15, 2008 QuoteI thought console jumps were solo jumps which the student did after finishing all the aff levels, I do not see anywhere on the proficiency card about having to do coach jumps, How do you plan on getting a coach or instructor to sign off the second half of the proficiency card if they never jump with you to observe your skills? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tkhayes 348 #22 November 15, 2008 we do not force the coach jumps, but as the previous post said, there are aerial skills you have to learn and demonstrate. A coach jump is the easiest way to do all that. We build 5 into our program, which is usually enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spencer 0 #23 November 15, 2008 So these 5 jumps you mention, are they on top of the 25 making a total of 30 jumps. does that sound about right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pilotdave 0 #24 November 15, 2008 I can't speak for their student program, but if you follow the ISP, you end up having each student do about 5-6 coach jumps... not including any repeats. Those are included in the 25 jumps to get the A, as are tandems, etc. Most of our students meet the A-license requirements (other than total jumps) when they reach about 20-22 jumps or so. It could take more jumps than 25 though if the student needs more jumps to acquire the required skills. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spencer 0 #25 November 15, 2008 it sounds like different dzs have different student programs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Gato 0 #13 November 14, 2008 Soooooorrrrrrryyyyy. Don't everybody pounce on my mistake at once..... T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 November 15, 2008 Quote You do if the dz program so dictates. Or find another dz. If people want to pay extra, so be it. But it's not required for the A. At Skydance, the extra 13 coach jumps would have cost me an extra $780 in 2004. OTOH, Chicago's program seems to do mostly coach jumps for the 25 with a much less substantial additional cost. Sadly, California pricing is more formidable. DZs and their people gotta eat/live too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #15 November 15, 2008 QuoteQuote You do if the dz program so dictates. Or find another dz. If people want to pay extra, so be it. But it's not required for the A. At Skydance, the extra 13 coach jumps would have cost me an extra $780 in 2004. OTOH, Chicago's program seems to do mostly coach jumps for the 25 with a much less substantial additional cost. Sadly, California pricing is more formidable. DZs and their people gotta eat/live too. It's not that people want to pay extra, its that they do not know any better. No dz I'm sure is going to be telling their students they can go somewhere else and get their A license for less. And I'm sure most students wouldn't even know where to begin to research dzs and prices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #16 November 15, 2008 However, once the student is cleared for solo status, it's pretty easy to jump to another DZ. I did, for a variety of reasons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #17 November 15, 2008 If the uspa states whats needed on there proficiency, there nothing on the card about coach jumps. Theres the basic aff levels a hop and pop, pack and jump the rig. some canopy skills a exam at the end , some spotting,equipment knowledge,land within 20 meters of target at least 5 times,emergency review. But nothing about one on one coach jumps, Total 25 jumps. So let me get this right, if a student can do all the above "without" any repeat jumps or coach jumps he can send of for his USPA A Licence. Total 25 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gato 0 #18 November 15, 2008 QuoteSo let me get this right, if a student can do all the above "without" any repeat jumps or coach jumps he can send of for his USPA A Licence. Total 25 jumps. Well, yes...but somehow, at some point, someone (a coach) has to be there in freefall with you to verify that you have the skills you need signed off on your card. I think it's left kind-of open ended by the USPA, because every student is different, and every dropzone has their own method of training. I'll give you a sample scenario: Joe goes to a dropzone with AFF. He passes all 7 jumps. He needs 18 more jumps to get his license, but there are still skills and tasks (TLOs) he must learn and be signed off on by an instructor (That are NOT covered/completed in the 7-jump AFF course). It may be that he can complete these things with only 3 coach jumps, or he may have to do 18 or even 25, depending on his skill level, retention, weather, etc.. It took me 32 jumps to get mine, but that was largely because of time between jumps and currency. DO NOT assume that you will be the perfect student with perfect marks in your logbook, who gets there in exactly 25 jumps. Just go freakin' jump, and enjoy yourself.T.I.N.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #19 November 15, 2008 http://www.skydivecity.com/html/students/aff/AFF1through7.htm at the bottom of the page is a link to our PDF file that steps you through typical progression to finish your license.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #20 November 15, 2008 I thought console jumps were solo jumps which the student did after finishing all the aff levels, I do not see anywhere on the proficiency card about having to do coach jumps, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllisonH 0 #21 November 15, 2008 QuoteI thought console jumps were solo jumps which the student did after finishing all the aff levels, I do not see anywhere on the proficiency card about having to do coach jumps, How do you plan on getting a coach or instructor to sign off the second half of the proficiency card if they never jump with you to observe your skills? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #22 November 15, 2008 we do not force the coach jumps, but as the previous post said, there are aerial skills you have to learn and demonstrate. A coach jump is the easiest way to do all that. We build 5 into our program, which is usually enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #23 November 15, 2008 So these 5 jumps you mention, are they on top of the 25 making a total of 30 jumps. does that sound about right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #24 November 15, 2008 I can't speak for their student program, but if you follow the ISP, you end up having each student do about 5-6 coach jumps... not including any repeats. Those are included in the 25 jumps to get the A, as are tandems, etc. Most of our students meet the A-license requirements (other than total jumps) when they reach about 20-22 jumps or so. It could take more jumps than 25 though if the student needs more jumps to acquire the required skills. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spencer 0 #25 November 15, 2008 it sounds like different dzs have different student programs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
