pgpilot 0 #1 August 19, 2008 Hi All - Is the Vector original container system ok for freeflying? photo attached. Please send PM! Thanks! -M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #2 August 19, 2008 Depends. Do you like the idea of having a premature deployment while in a sit or head down? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #3 August 19, 2008 "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #4 August 19, 2008 If that is indeed exposed bridal that I see in that picture then I would have to say no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pgpilot 0 #5 August 19, 2008 Awesome - if there is someone who actually has some useful info then that would be great. Mods? If you have 100 jumps and even less of a clue than I, then keep it to yourself - your posts exceed your number of jumps by 17 times... I'm cracking up over here! Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 August 19, 2008 Now that the company formerly known as RWS has those magnetic flap holders, check into that. Get a mod done to protect the bridle and there's a well known mod with elastic to help with the main flap. FFing a Vector2 isn't a great choice. If you search here you'll see that I used to do it, and it wasn't a great choice then either. I just got lucky. I'd rather not depend on luck with skydiving.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 August 19, 2008 I wouldmn't be on the same skydive with you if you wanted to freefly in it as it is. Officially there are no Mods that the manufactor allows, some people have tried to make the rig more suited for freeflying but it is not something that Relative Workshop endorsed and you might have issues finding riggers to repack it depending on how creative the "mods" were. I've seen what happens on a Dolphin in a premature depolyment (two different times) and it is at least a bit better then the Vector since it has a flap for the bridle and it was never an ROL.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iluvtofly 0 #8 August 19, 2008 My posts exceed may jump numbers but I spend about 5 days a week at the DZ packing. I have a clue or 2 about gear. I know freefly friendly vs non freefly friendly. When I bought gear I spoke extensivly with multiple riggers getting to know the difference so that I wouldn't kill myself. PS...I thought my info was somewhat usefull. If there is exposed bridal then it's not freefly friendly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #9 August 19, 2008 keep your mind open to what other people have to say. There is in fact too much exposed bridal there. As well if your vector had velcro on the reserve pin flap then that is not good for freeflying either. Just because someone has fewer jumps than you do doesn't mean that they have no clue about gear.Divot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tilley13k 0 #10 August 19, 2008 From your photo it looks like a Vector 2. I currently jump the same container built in '95 and would definitely not recommend it for freeflying. Way to much bridle exposure, minimal main pin protection, and velcro riser covers (can't really tell from the pic, but mine are velcro) are some major issues. I'd look into a different container if you plan on freeflying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #11 August 19, 2008 Just because someone doesn't post their jump numbers doesn't mean they don't know of what they speak. Skybytch knows a tad about gear.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #12 August 19, 2008 Quote If you have 100 jumps and even less of a clue than I, then keep it to yourself - your posts exceed your number of jumps by 17 times... I'm cracking up over here! She has more than 1000 jumps. What's your next move kid?Vector2 and freeflying is no go. Mods? Hell no. Get something better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #13 August 19, 2008 "...there's a notion in the sport that since the advent of free flying every rig built prior is obsolete, and that's baloney..." I heard that around here once. Bytch is right though, a V2 isn't exactly what one would call free fly friendly. What's the pedigree of the rig in the pic you posted... DOM, how many jumps on it, what canopies does it have in it, AAD or not, etc.? Thinking of selling it? What would you ask for it?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #14 August 19, 2008 I have a friend that made a couple hundred FF jumps on a Vector 2. She had 2 premature openings sit flying. Both of them did some good damage to her neck! She had a few mods done by a master rigger that mostly solved the problem, but it was still kinda sketchy. She bought a new rig!~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #15 August 20, 2008 My riser covers come open if I fly head down long enough to hit terminal, caused cutaway #4 for me. The toggles came off the risers and tied them in a knot with the slider on the right side. I could steer with the left toggle but couldn't flare because the right front and right rear risers were tied together. Replacing the velcro every year will help, but not for head down. Sit flying won't go either, the spandex pouch will let air in that will push the pilot chute right out."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #16 August 20, 2008 QuoteDepends. Do you like the idea of having a premature deployment while in a sit or head down? with good Velcro and bridle protection, it worked just fine for friends of mine for over 500 jumps each but good velcro, meant it was replaced regularlyYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #17 August 20, 2008 Quotewith good Velcro and bridle protection, it worked just fine for friends of mine for over 500 jumps each but good velcro, meant it was replaced regularly Yup, that's what my friend Nick said too. Until he had a premature opening while in a sit, that is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinkfairy 0 #18 August 20, 2008 That rig is a great excuse for becoming good at 4-way. Seriously, I know people who got a Vector2, was told it wasn't safe to freefly in, and started doing 4-way, liked it, and got good at it. Or anything you like on your belly. Why would you want people to send you the answers as PM? Relax, you can die if you mess up, but it will probably not be by bullet. I'm a BIG, TOUGH BIGWAY FORMATION SKYDIVER! What are you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #19 August 20, 2008 QuoteSeriously, I know people who got a Vector2, was told it wasn't safe to freefly in, and started doing 4-way, liked it, and got good at it. I use it with wing suit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pms07 3 #20 August 20, 2008 QuoteFrom your photo it looks like a Vector 2. I currently jump the same container built in '95 and would definitely not recommend it for freeflying. Way to much bridle exposure, minimal main pin protection, and velcro riser covers (can't really tell from the pic, but mine are velcro) are some major issues. I'd look into a different container if you plan on freeflying. Yup, original Vector didn't have a BOC for sure. The pilot chute pouch on the original was actually on the front of the legstrap iirc, then migrated to the back of the legstrap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #21 August 21, 2008 QuoteNow that the company formerly known as RWS has those magnetic flap holders, check into that. Get a mod done to protect the bridle and there's a well known mod with elastic to help with the main flap. FFing a Vector2 isn't a great choice. If you search here you'll see that I used to do it, and it wasn't a great choice then either. I just got lucky. I'd rather not depend on luck with skydiving. There is not mod available to have Magnetic Riser covers to a sport Vector (I, 2, or 3). The only mod available is for the Sigmas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #22 August 21, 2008 QuoteHi All - Is the Vector original container system ok for freeflying? photo attached. Please send PM! Thanks! -M F**k no. Seriously. It's not. Replace the velcro all you want and it's still coming open if you are doing any acrobatic type moves. A sit is not freeflying, it's a position. Many people have had issues and lived anyway, some were quite injured. Some just lucky. I personally wouldn't freefly with you. The air will get under the riser covers and peel them open. Then your risers are exposed, and eventually the toggles come off the risers. At some point you have to open. Have fun. The main flap can be made to stay shut but most people never have it done. Reserve flap will probably smack you in the head. I could go on an on but it's not necessary. I've been freeflying for most of my 18 years in the sport. I don't mean assuming a head down or a simple sit either. I've been rigging for about 17 of those. That rig is fine but not for real freeflying. Good luckMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #23 August 22, 2008 QuoteQuoteHi All - Is the Vector original container system ok for freeflying? photo attached. Please send PM! Thanks! -M F**k no. Seriously. It's not. Replace the velcro all you want and it's still coming open if you are doing any acrobatic type moves. A sit is not freeflying, it's a position. Good luck Question for those around before tuck tabs. What did all the early FREESTYLE jumpers jump with?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #24 August 22, 2008 use it with wing suit. And CRW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #25 August 22, 2008 Quote And CRW I've seen that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I've seen that too.
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