tbrown 26 #51 August 2, 2005 QuoteCall (951) 688-4340. It's the Humane Society in Riverside and report animal cruelty. Hopefully you saved the pellet. Better yet, take your cat to a vet and have them take pics. Then you'll have a professional witness to your cat's injuries. Have the fucker arrested, it's against the law to shoot people's pets, even if I would like to shoot my neighbor's dog a couple times a week...I only fantasize about it. We've got a cat who likes to go out and fight too. She kicked a bunch of ass at first, then got her own little butt kicked a bit too, so she's settled down and pretty much rules the walled in backyard here. The guy who broke the window's probably gonna get busted for it too, which is too bad. But it gets a message across, which is that the shootist is no longer safe over there. Hope he moves. Hope your cat's okay, be seeing you out at Perris soon I hope. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #52 August 2, 2005 Quote'm thinking that the DZ may not want to get involved in cat harrassement issues in a ghetto a few blocks away. What good would come of that, exactly? Agreed this is not a DZ problem. This is a nasty man that needs to learn to stop being so damn nasty when it comes to others pets. He has two cats of his own for christ sake!Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
homer 0 #53 August 2, 2005 Let me add I have been away for the last two years and do not know what has happened to the cat or if it is still around. Call it what you want but my father is on the humane society board who works along with animal control. They would only capture the cat and then put it down so as animal control put it, save us some time and take care of the problem yourself. It's all water under the bridge now. As for picking a fight with neighbor McNasty for shooting your cat you 1) confront him, 2) let them know you will notify the authorities if it happens again and have it documented when you do, 3) call the authorities and report him for cruelty to animals. Being the second offense he should either be ticketed or arrested. I'm a pretty passive person for the most part so starting a fight is only going to cause more problems for the both of you in the long run. Take pictures of the cats wounds and use the legal system is what I would do if it were my cat. CSA #699 Muff #3804 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diversgodown 0 #54 August 2, 2005 QuoteI agree with everyone who said to take legal action (not suing, but calling the authorities, I mean). Be mature and let the law handle it. More than likely the law would do nothing but go over and ask him some questions then go to the donut shop. If someone shot my kid with a pellet gun for scraping with there kid. I would not hesitate to serve out my own justice. and I consider my Dog to be a kid, I know he would lay down his life for me and I protect me if someone were shooting me. and I would give him the same love back. But I think that is one HUGE difference between women and men. Women tend to think more rationally than men, hence thats why more men are in trouble with the legal system. I could see both sides of the argument and calling the humane society would probably be the sensible thing to do.. But I think my emotions would get the better of me in that situation... ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
namgrunt 0 #55 August 2, 2005 there is a very special place in hell for people that abuse pets no matter dog,cat,bird,wife,children HE ..WILL pay to the one that made us all and placed us above them. ..59 YEARS,OVERWEIGHT,BALDIND,X-GRUNT LAST MIL. JUMP VIET-NAM(QUAN-TRI) www.dzmemories.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #56 August 2, 2005 Honestly, I cat snipe with the pellet gun in my yard too. I don't know who's bigass orange tomcat it is, but he lurks in my yard, eating the fish in my fishpond, and killing critters and leaving the bodies around. I won't hurt it, but I will peg the fucker with a pellet gun hard enough to scare it. He doesn't come in my yard much now. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #57 August 2, 2005 Quote (lots of good stuff deleted) Women tend to think more rationally than men, hence thats why more men are in trouble with the legal system. (more good stuff deleted) For one of the very few times in my life I'm going to keep my mouth shut, but I can't wait to see the responses to this! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #58 August 2, 2005 QuoteSo you're going to kill the animal because it's owner doesn't have control of it? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds? How about just calling animal control, would that be too much work? What do you think animal control will do?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #59 August 2, 2005 Keep your pets out of other people's yards. It's mean to shoot a cat, but it's plain rude to expect that other people should have to put up with your pesky critters. Just like I don't expect the neighbors to love my child, I sure as heck don't expect them to love my pets. Don't let your dogs keep the neighbors awake all night, and you'll find you have nicer neighbors. Don't let your cat kill the neighbor's fish, and you'll find you have nicer neighbors too.... Yes? Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #60 August 2, 2005 QuoteWhat do you think animal control will do? I don't know... maybe put it down in a humane way? Just a guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #61 August 2, 2005 QuoteI don't know... maybe put it down in a humane way? Just a guess So you would rather kill the cat than pop it with a pellet? You would rather the cat be dead? I hate it when people let their animals run around outside. I have never shot a cat, but I have sprayed water on them to keep them out of my yard before. Just because YOU love it, don't expect ME to love it. I find it odd you would rather the cat be dead."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #62 August 2, 2005 >Honestly, I cat snipe with the pellet gun in my yard too. I've been thinking about getting a paintball gun for that purpose. Won't hurt the cat as much as a pellet, and if this cat _does_ have an owner, then there won't be any question that she's been getting into somewhere she shouldn't be. If the cat doesn't have an owner, then the orange paint will help the ecosystem of the canyon (i.e. the coyotes) take care of feline overpopulation. I suppose I could just trap it and give it to animal control, but that seems more cruel somehow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #63 August 2, 2005 Well, first of all, I disagree with your approach (you have better, less cruel options and I *think* your actions are illegal) but in this case, we're dealing with a camp ground, not someone's private back yard. A campground where it sounds like several residents have cats and those cats are allowed to roam freely. And the asshat doing the shooting also has cats that apparently roam freely, which makes him a hypocrite on top of everything else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diversgodown 0 #64 August 2, 2005 QuoteQuote (lots of good stuff deleted) Women tend to think more rationally than men, hence thats why more men are in trouble with the legal system. (more good stuff deleted) QuoteFor one of the very few times in my life I'm going to keep my mouth shut, but I can't wait to see the responses to this!Quote I'm not saying that's a bad thing, actually it's probably better. It's actually proven that women think differently than men. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6849058/ This article doesn't really show the rational part but I just did a quick search on google and found this. Walt ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Diversgodown 0 #65 August 2, 2005 STOP LINDSEY!!! the cat didn't do it!!! are you sure Lindsey didn't shoot your cat? ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hexadecimal 0 #66 August 2, 2005 QuoteI find it odd you would rather the cat be dead. I find it odd that you're bent on distorting the meaning of what I said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tigra 0 #67 August 2, 2005 Things must be quiet in the speaker's corner today! Actually, depending on where you live, animal control will most likely keep the cat for a week or so, to give his owner a chance to claim him. If that doesn't happen, and the cat is social enough, they might try adoption. Just how long an unclaimed cat or dog has in a shelter before it is humanely euthanized depends on how crowded and how well funded the shelter is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #68 August 2, 2005 I was just about to type, "Startin' to smell like SC in here" you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gmanpilot 0 #69 August 2, 2005 QuoteThis is a nasty man that needs to learn to stop being so damn nasty when it comes to others pets. Then why don't you simply have him arrested instead of increasing ghetto drama? Don't talk about it or involve your other neighbors, just take care of it. It's pretty simple really, if it's a felony, (cruelty to animals)...he will learn his lesson._________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #70 August 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteSo you're going to kill the animal because it's owner doesn't have control of it? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds? How about just calling animal control, would that be too much work? What do you think animal control will do? Here in good ol' liberal Berkeley, you can specify that they go to a no kill shelter. When I trap raccoons in my yard, they are handled by a no kill animal control system. No reason to kill them if I don't have to. They drive 'em off to the local park area and release them. Also, if anyone laid a hand on my cat, who's been my constant companion for 11 years now, they wouldn't have the wherewithall to do it a second time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #71 August 2, 2005 QuoteKeep your pets out of other people's yards. It's mean to shoot a cat, but it's plain rude to expect that other people should have to put up with your pesky critters. Just like I don't expect the neighbors to love my child, I sure as heck don't expect them to love my pets. Don't let your dogs keep the neighbors awake all night, and you'll find you have nicer neighbors. Don't let your cat kill the neighbor's fish, and you'll find you have nicer neighbors too.... Yes? This is a different type of place that I live in. It is a Ghetto ful of skydivers. Most of us have a cat. The guy in question has two of his own. Everyone know each others animals and looks out for them. The ass hat that is doing this, will be nice to your animal to your face then shoot it, kick it, or even try to run them over. He has issues. If he had a problem with my cat, he could have talked to me directly and I would have worked with him on a solution to the problem. He could have talked to me about it when he was "helping" look at my cats wound a few months ago. He was the one that put them there that time as well. Only I didn't know it at then. This guy is doing this to all of our pets. He likes to do it.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peregrinerose 0 #72 August 2, 2005 QuoteI've been thinking about getting a paintball gun for that purpose. Won't hurt the cat as much as a pellet, and if this cat _does_ have an owner, then there won't be any question that she's been getting into somewhere she shouldn't be. If the cat doesn't have an owner, then the orange paint will help the ecosystem of the canyon (i.e. the coyotes) take care of feline overpopulation. Not a bad idea, but paint in a feline eye would hurt far more than a zap in the ass with a pellet. Plus grooming itself would likely be toxic. I've never maimed a cat, never put the pellet gun on full blast, you can see the pellet bounce off the thing's hide, and no blood involved. Now the thing knows the sound of the pellet gun getting cocked and runs away just from that, so I don't even need to shoot it most of the time. I doubt there's anything illegal about it since no harm comes to the cat. Personally I think that any 'pet' left wandering around unattended, in a campground or anywhere else, is just an issue with irresponsable ownership. No one should have a pet that roams freely, it risks the pet's safett and is rude to other people. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jlmiracle 7 #73 August 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat do you think animal control will do? I don't know... maybe put it down in a humane way? Just a guess Sucking the air out of room is more humane than a shot to the head? jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dgskydive 0 #74 August 2, 2005 QuoteThen why don't you simply have him arrested instead of increasing ghetto drama? Don't talk about it or involve your other neighbors, just take care of it. It's pretty simple really, if it's a felony, (cruelty to animals)...he will learn his lesson. Rule number one in the Ghetto. If no one is dead or going to die you just don't call the cops. I havn't increased the drama. It just finally came to light that he has been doing this. Everyone thought he had, but now he admitted it. Plain and simple. He made his bed and will now have to lay in it. Everyone knows where to look if there cats end up with holes in them.If he hurts one more, then the cops will be brought in.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #75 August 2, 2005 QuoteSucking the air out of room is more humane than a shot to the head? Right Judy - To some, "humane" jsut means they don't see it happen. Dead is dead. According to Dom, this guy enjoys hurting the cats. Big threat that he is a closet psychotic and will move from something minor like cats on to something with actual importance - like dogs EDIT: "Everyone knows where to look if there cats end up with holes in them.If he hurts one more, then the cops will be brought in." And thus we find the a reasonable resolution to the conflict of "bringing in outsiders vs doing something stupid and vengeful". What about the person that vandalized the window - what happens to them? ... 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Diversgodown 0 #65 August 2, 2005 STOP LINDSEY!!! the cat didn't do it!!! are you sure Lindsey didn't shoot your cat? ***Glory Favors the Bold*** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #66 August 2, 2005 QuoteI find it odd you would rather the cat be dead. I find it odd that you're bent on distorting the meaning of what I said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #67 August 2, 2005 Things must be quiet in the speaker's corner today! Actually, depending on where you live, animal control will most likely keep the cat for a week or so, to give his owner a chance to claim him. If that doesn't happen, and the cat is social enough, they might try adoption. Just how long an unclaimed cat or dog has in a shelter before it is humanely euthanized depends on how crowded and how well funded the shelter is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #68 August 2, 2005 I was just about to type, "Startin' to smell like SC in here" you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gmanpilot 0 #69 August 2, 2005 QuoteThis is a nasty man that needs to learn to stop being so damn nasty when it comes to others pets. Then why don't you simply have him arrested instead of increasing ghetto drama? Don't talk about it or involve your other neighbors, just take care of it. It's pretty simple really, if it's a felony, (cruelty to animals)...he will learn his lesson._________________________________________ -There's always free cheese in a mouse trap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #70 August 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteSo you're going to kill the animal because it's owner doesn't have control of it? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds? How about just calling animal control, would that be too much work? What do you think animal control will do? Here in good ol' liberal Berkeley, you can specify that they go to a no kill shelter. When I trap raccoons in my yard, they are handled by a no kill animal control system. No reason to kill them if I don't have to. They drive 'em off to the local park area and release them. Also, if anyone laid a hand on my cat, who's been my constant companion for 11 years now, they wouldn't have the wherewithall to do it a second time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #71 August 2, 2005 QuoteKeep your pets out of other people's yards. It's mean to shoot a cat, but it's plain rude to expect that other people should have to put up with your pesky critters. Just like I don't expect the neighbors to love my child, I sure as heck don't expect them to love my pets. Don't let your dogs keep the neighbors awake all night, and you'll find you have nicer neighbors. Don't let your cat kill the neighbor's fish, and you'll find you have nicer neighbors too.... Yes? This is a different type of place that I live in. It is a Ghetto ful of skydivers. Most of us have a cat. The guy in question has two of his own. Everyone know each others animals and looks out for them. The ass hat that is doing this, will be nice to your animal to your face then shoot it, kick it, or even try to run them over. He has issues. If he had a problem with my cat, he could have talked to me directly and I would have worked with him on a solution to the problem. He could have talked to me about it when he was "helping" look at my cats wound a few months ago. He was the one that put them there that time as well. Only I didn't know it at then. This guy is doing this to all of our pets. He likes to do it.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #72 August 2, 2005 QuoteI've been thinking about getting a paintball gun for that purpose. Won't hurt the cat as much as a pellet, and if this cat _does_ have an owner, then there won't be any question that she's been getting into somewhere she shouldn't be. If the cat doesn't have an owner, then the orange paint will help the ecosystem of the canyon (i.e. the coyotes) take care of feline overpopulation. Not a bad idea, but paint in a feline eye would hurt far more than a zap in the ass with a pellet. Plus grooming itself would likely be toxic. I've never maimed a cat, never put the pellet gun on full blast, you can see the pellet bounce off the thing's hide, and no blood involved. Now the thing knows the sound of the pellet gun getting cocked and runs away just from that, so I don't even need to shoot it most of the time. I doubt there's anything illegal about it since no harm comes to the cat. Personally I think that any 'pet' left wandering around unattended, in a campground or anywhere else, is just an issue with irresponsable ownership. No one should have a pet that roams freely, it risks the pet's safett and is rude to other people. Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlmiracle 7 #73 August 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat do you think animal control will do? I don't know... maybe put it down in a humane way? Just a guess Sucking the air out of room is more humane than a shot to the head? jBe kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #74 August 2, 2005 QuoteThen why don't you simply have him arrested instead of increasing ghetto drama? Don't talk about it or involve your other neighbors, just take care of it. It's pretty simple really, if it's a felony, (cruelty to animals)...he will learn his lesson. Rule number one in the Ghetto. If no one is dead or going to die you just don't call the cops. I havn't increased the drama. It just finally came to light that he has been doing this. Everyone thought he had, but now he admitted it. Plain and simple. He made his bed and will now have to lay in it. Everyone knows where to look if there cats end up with holes in them.If he hurts one more, then the cops will be brought in.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #75 August 2, 2005 QuoteSucking the air out of room is more humane than a shot to the head? Right Judy - To some, "humane" jsut means they don't see it happen. Dead is dead. According to Dom, this guy enjoys hurting the cats. Big threat that he is a closet psychotic and will move from something minor like cats on to something with actual importance - like dogs EDIT: "Everyone knows where to look if there cats end up with holes in them.If he hurts one more, then the cops will be brought in." And thus we find the a reasonable resolution to the conflict of "bringing in outsiders vs doing something stupid and vengeful". What about the person that vandalized the window - what happens to them? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
