F---er Shot my cat!!!!

[Ron 10]

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If he doesn't like it then he can keep his inside. If mine gets picked up by a Coyote or some other critter that is just mother nature. Getting shot numerous times with a high powered Pellet gun is not a part of the deal.

So what are you REALLY pissed at?

Its not harm to the cat since you said if a Coyote got it it would be OK.

It could be just animal cruelty....But I suspect your anger is at him. You trusted him and he back stabbed you in your thinking.

But what is a person to do if he wants to let his cat out, but not have his cat attacked?

What is a guy like me to do that is allergic to cats but cats just love to walk into my place? Why should I have to live my life differently due to your cat?

How should a person prevent a cat that you let roam from messing in his garden, hurting his cat, pissing in his house ect?

Responsible animal ownership is not just letting your animal run loose. Even if it WANTS to.

I had a big black lab. I didn't let it run loose, it sure wanted to run loose, but I didn't let it since it would not be responsible

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[waltappel 1]

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I just posted two shots of Simon over on the Pic of the Week thread. He's one of 5, and I had to bottle feed him he was so young when I got him (saved him from being put down...). He's had some developmental problems, but he's doing really well now.

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Michele

That's a beautiful kitty. Here's a pic of my seal-point Siamese. I found her in the middle of a street late at night and she had obviously been hit by a car. I tried hard to find the owner, but nobody claimed her. Her name is Zoe.

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[billvon 2,990]

>What is a guy like me to do that is allergic to cats but cats just love to walk into my place?

Perhaps talk to the owner?

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So what are you REALLY pissed at?

That he shot my cat. For a few reasons. One he is my friend. 2... it is just fucking cruel. Coyote is a part of nature. If he gets my cat, then it is a part of life, he is a part of the food chain.

This ass hat just likes to shoot at cats that aren't his.

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It could be just animal cruelty....But I suspect your anger is at him. You trusted him and he back stabbed you in your thinking.

Not in my thinking. He is a f---ing chicken shit. Ron, if you sat with me and helped me look a the cats wounds and where saying how much you liked my cat and he is such a cool ccat and then you went home and shot it with a pellet gun. I would think you an ass hat as well. All he had to do at any point was tell me he didn't want my cat in his yard. I would have fixed the problem. I have trained my cat with water and a few well placed rocks to stay in the Ghetto. He used to follow me out of the Ghetto and to the DZ. I stopped that quick. Now he gets about 20 t.. from the gate and won't go any further. I am pissed because he could have talked to me about it and didn't.

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But what is a person to do if he wants to let his cat out, but not have his cat attacked?

Get a differrent pet or deal with it. Or don't let them out. Cats fight. It is there way. Mine has his boys clipped and rarley gets aggresive.

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How should a person prevent a cat that you let roam from messing in his garden, hurting his cat, pissing in his house ect?

Garden is easy. Let him have it with the hose. If yo dont' want a stragne animal in your house then .......... SHUT YOUR DOOR!

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Responsible animal ownership is not just letting your animal run loose. Even if it WANTS to.

I disagree. He is an animal that likes to be out at night and hunt for things. To keep him locked in trailer all day long is cruel in my opinion.


Also this is a cat comunity. THey are everywhere so this is not me being a bad neighbor. This is the Ghetto. We like cats. They keep mice and rats out. They are good company (when they want to be) AS I said this guy has two of his own that run around all the time. One has even snuck into my trailer before. Did i want it there? No, but I should have shut the door. Not the cats fault. he is just being a cat.

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I had a big black lab. I didn't let it run loose, it sure wanted to run loose, but I didn't let it since it would not be responsible

I don't think you can compare the two. Apples and Oranges (or in this case Cats and Dog)

Dom

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>What is a guy like me to do that is allergic to cats but cats just love to walk into my place?

Perhaps talk to the owner?

How about shutting your door?

Dom

[Thanatos340 1]

I do sympathize with you and feel anyone that shoots someone pet deserves to get their Ass kicked.

However, Wandering Pets can be a Huge Nuisance. You argument that Cats should be free just doesn’t hold water for me. I have a neighbor that lets her cats roam free and they are driving me nuts. Fist one of them SPRAYED the interior of my fully restored 1966 Belvedere that I had just replaced the carpet in (Yes, I left the windows down on a car that was under my carport inside my fully fenced in yard). The Car Stunk for weeks and the brand new Carpet is stained. Then the Cats sprayed my welcome mat by my front door so that had to be trashed. Then the cats get into fights outside my window at 3:00am constantly. I have warned the neighbor that she does not keep her cats on her property, I will call animal control and have them picked up. She gave the same BS excuse that cats need to be outside.

Owners need to be responsible for their pets.
Dogs Barking all night, Cats Pissing on everything, Cats Fighting, Dogs Chasing Cats.. All these are natural behaviors to the animals but NOT something that neighbors should be subjected to.

Keep your cat inside or find it another home. Be a responsible pet owner.

[nael 0]

My cat was shot with a pellet gun a few years ago. We got home (from a funeral) and he was lying on our deck with blood all over his chest. We rushed him up to the emergency vet and they xrayed him to see if the bullet/pellet was still inside him. It was, but it was so close to his jugular that they said surgery would be very risky and likely to kill him and it's best to leave it in there and watch for any signs of lead poisoning in years to come.

We never found out who did it. If I were you, I'd report the bastard to the RSPCA (or whatever your american equivalent is).

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Cat's dont' like to be inside all the time. Mine just roams the Ghetto like the others. That is what this ass should do. Cats get nto fights.That is a cat thing. If he doesn't want his to fight then he needs to keep his in the house.

That's just BS. I have 3 cats, strictly indoor cats, all are extremely happy. Letting a 'beloved' pet roam around isn't responsible pet ownership. Just because other people think it is cool to let their cat run around unfettered doesn't mean it's a good idea.

Yes, I have 3 cats and will continue zapping that one in the ass. Though like I said, after getting hit a few times, he doesn't come back any more. Completely harmless to the cat (we don't pump the gun up enough to have any real velocity) and cheaper than any electric doodad. Plus already had the pellet gun and pellets, so free

I'm all for rescuing animals (I have 3 dogs, 3 cats, 2 guinea pigs, and a rabbit... all are rescues) and can't stand animal cruelty. But I also believe that letting a pet wander around without a leash or restraint is just as cruel, not to mention irritating as hell to the neighbors.

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That's just BS. I have 3 cats, strictly indoor cats, all are extremely happy. Letting a 'beloved' pet roam around isn't responsible pet ownership. Just because other people think it is cool to let their cat run around unfettered doesn't mean it's a good idea.

I was waiting for this part to come up, as I agree. I've never owned or met a strictly indoor cat who didn't seem happy as a clam to just be pampered and not have to deal with the stresses of "the wild life". Note this refers to spayed/neutered cats, which all pets should be. Occasional supervised outdoor ventures (fenced yard) seem to be a nice change of pace, and that's how they treat it...as "interesting" but not somewhere they'd want to live.

Blues,
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However, Wandering Pets can be a Huge Nuisance. You argument that Cats should be free just doesn’t hold water for me. I have a neighbor that lets her cats roam free and they are driving me nuts. Fist one of them SPRAYED the interior of my fully restored 1966 Belvedere that I had just replaced the carpet in (Yes, I left the windows down on a car that was under my carport inside my fully fenced in yard). The Car Stunk for weeks and the brand new Carpet is stained. Then the Cats sprayed my welcome mat by my front door so that had to be trashed. Then the cats get into fights outside my window at 3:00am constantly. I have warned the neighbor that she does not keep her cats on her property, I will call animal control and have them picked up. She gave the same BS excuse that cats need to be outside.

Owners need to be responsible for their pets.
Dogs Barking all night, Cats Pissing on everything, Cats Fighting, Dogs Chasing Cats.. All these are natural behaviors to the animals but NOT something that neighbors should be subjected to.

Keep your cat inside or find it another home. Be a responsible pet owner.

You have an absolutely legitimate gripe against the owner of those cats. What has she done to try to make things right with you?

Walt

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Discharge of firearms in city limits is ugly...

Call the cops.

-smd7

Trouble is, a pellet gun isn't classified as a firearm. It uses compressed air to propel the projectile.

However, there are still ordinances on the books that cover this kind of situation, and I'm sure that in California there are several local, county and state statutes this guy may be in violation of.

mh

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[NickDG 23]

One time in the Perris Ghetto we are having a problem with a local street gang that lived in the neighborhood up behind the railroad museum. I don’t know what started it but they'd drive by on Mapes road and fire guns into the trailers. Jack Flash and I were shot at one night and the rounds whizzed right by our heads. We knew their cars though and for the next few nights we staked out that side of the Ghetto armed and waiting for them.

We didn’t see them and a few days later PV21 went in at the drop zone and we lost sixteen skydivers. Late that same afternoon I was walking up Mapes road towards the Ghetto just trying to collect my thoughts. I'd turn every once in a while and look back towards the DZ. I could still see the tail of the Otter sticking almost straight up in the air.

It was one of those days when you couldn't imagine anything worse happening and then I saw them coming towards me. It's one of their cars alright and I'm screwed as there's no cover in any direction. I keep on walking using my best New York don’t fuck with me today stride and I stare them down as they slowly pass me. I flinched as a hand comes out the window, but instead of the muzzle flash I was expecting, they shot me a peace symbol. Everyone understands and respects death I guess. We never did have any trouble with them after that.

And, we never called the cops . . .

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I do sympathize with you and feel anyone that shoots someone pet deserves to get their Ass kicked.

Keep your cat inside or find it another home. Be a responsible pet owner.

I do agree with the sentences above, but also add: be a responsible neighbor.

We all live on something called the WORLD and most of us live in this silly phenomenon called COMMUNITIES so most of us have NEIGHBORS! Pets have been around for thousands of years and are an accepted part of society if you like it or not. We humans took animals in our homes and tamed them.

I personally have had three cats the last one died last year and they got to be 10, 15 and 18 years old. At the moment we have a cute little dog running around. All of them were neutered as I think this done takes away about 90% off the trouble they can cause in your own home and out on the street. My cats used to live inside the home as I was living in an apartment way back. Later when I bought a home with garden I let them outside, but after a year decided that it was too much trouble. One was so blind that he would just walk on the middle of the road head on facing oncoming traffic and the other loved my neighbours fish that swam in the pond.

In the end I think pets can be let outside, but have them nutered first and if they cause great annoyence to the community, think what you can do to prevent it. BUT everybody in your community should accept that there are pets running about. If you really have a big problem with that, than go live in the desert or someplace else or perhaps get into politics and try to change the rules of your community.

Letting animals outside and just don't care what havoc they cause or shooting/harming animals are simply asshole attitudes to society that will cause yourself trouble in the end.

BTW if somebody shot my cat I would feel like dragging them on a chain behind my car, but my act would be to notify the apropiate instances.

BTWBTW The only time in life my wife had to calm me and get me inside was when I was about to remodel my neighbors face bacause of an argument about my cat.

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[ThighMan 5]

Contact the animal abuse people. What he is doing is unlawful and should be put in jail or fined. Nice guy or not.
Patrick.
P.S. Be glad that he didn't shoot my cat.

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[Ron 10]

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Perhaps talk to the owner?

Love to, but these are "DZ" cats. They don't seem to really have owners. Only people who feed them.

Anyway my spraying them with water works.

But my point was about responsible ownership and how while you may love your pet, not everyone does.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[Ron 10]

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That he shot my cat. For a few reasons. One he is my friend. 2... it is just fucking cruel

I think its more 1 than 2. Perfectly fine.

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Not in my thinking. He is a f---ing chicken shit. Ron, if you sat with me and helped me look a the cats wounds and where saying how much you liked my cat and he is such a cool ccat and then you went home and shot it with a pellet gun. I would think you an ass hat as well

He is also a hypocrite.

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All he had to do at any point was tell me he didn't want my cat in his yard. I would have fixed the problem

You say this, but then you tell me to keep my door closed?

Why should I have to change MY life for your failure to be a responsible pet owner?

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Garden is easy. Let him have it with the hose. If yo dont' want a stragne animal in your house then .......... SHUT YOUR DOOR!

Again, why do I have to deal with YOUR pet, or change MY life for YOUR pet?

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I disagree. He is an animal that likes to be out at night and hunt for things. To keep him locked in trailer all day long is cruel in my opinion.

It is irresponsible to let your animals run free.

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This is the Ghetto. We like cats.

Seems like its just like noise. We like OUR noise, but not anyone elses. You like your cat, but its clear he does not like your cat.

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One has even snuck into my trailer before. Did i want it there? No, but I should have shut the door. Not the cats fault. he is just being a cat.

Yep, not the cats fault, it is the OWNERS fault.

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I don't think you can compare the two. Apples and Oranges (or in this case Cats and Dog)

Why not? My dog loved to run, he loved to swim in the swoop pond, he loved to chase cats. He was happy outside. But I would never let him run free.

Thats being responsible. Letting your animal, any animal, run around unwatched is not responsible ownership.

Look Im sorry you are pissed, I am even sorry your cat was shot. But it is not your right to make others deal with your pet.

Yes, this guy is an asshat.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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BUT everybody in your community should accept that there are pets running about.

Fuck that!!
Your Pet. You take care it. Not my Job.
And if YOUR pet is an Annoyance, Dont be surprised if someone does something about it.

How about taking personal responsibility for YOUR pet. This community stuff is Bullshit. If i wanted Pets in my yard, I would get my own.

Again, I am not saying that Shooting the Pet is Justified, However I do think that shooting the Pet Owners who think that everyone should have to put up with their Pets is not such a bad idea.

Being a Responsible pet owner means taking care of your animal and ensuring that your pet in NOT an annoyance to others, is not destrying other peoples property, and is not keeping people awake at night. The only way to really do that is to keep your pet inside or atleast ensure that YOUR pet remains on YOUR property.

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Being a Responsible pet owner means taking care of your animal and ensuring that your pet in NOT an annoyance to others, is not destrying other peoples property, and is not keeping people awake at night.

I completely agree with you.

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The only way to really do that is to keep your pet inside or atleast ensure that YOUR pet remains on YOUR property.

And now back to the real world. Most pets do not destroy property or keep people awake at night. Having a garden wtf is the problem in having a cat passing thru? If the cat starts digging holes in your lawn or pissing on your carpet, then you have a problem. But thinking because you own a piece of land that automatically all cats will take a detour around your property? Perhaps hang up a sign, warning the cat that it's not allowed trespassing. Or migrate to Iceland: No dogs alowed overthere.

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And now back to the real world. Most pets do not destroy property or keep people awake at night

Agreed.. Most pets have responsible owners that dont let them roam the neighborhood

This is the real world..
I have a real Problem with Cats right now doing exactly these things.

Again.. I do not fault the Cat. They are doing what is natural to them. My issue is with irresponsible Cat owners who let their Cats roam free. Animals will do what is natural to them (Spray their Territory, Fight, Make Loud noises), It is up to the Pet owners to make sure their Pets are not a nuisance to others.

The ONLY way to do that is Keep your pet inside or on a Leash. ANYTHING Else is Irresponsible.

Funny how pet owners think everyone should just "Endure" these things. Bullshit.

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migrate to Iceland: No dogs alowed overthere.

My issue is not with DOGS. Most Dog owners tend to atleast make an effort to keep thier pets oon a leash or in thier own yards (And if they didnt, I would have the same issues with them). If they get out, Animal controll can usually catch Dogs. Much harder to catch Stray Cats (And if it is roaming the neighborhood, it is a Stray!!).

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Also, if anyone laid a hand on my cat, who's been my constant companion for 11 years now, they wouldn't have the wherewithall to do it a second time.

Do you let you cat run around?

Yup, but he's old now, and sticks to the backyard and the neighbors yard where it's sunny. He's never been much of a fighter unless cornered by something. I had him neutered early on, and he's a good natured mellow cat. Never had a problem with him or with the neighbors.

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Fist one of them SPRAYED the interior of my fully restored 1966 Belvedere that I had just replaced the carpet in (Yes, I left the windows down on a car that was under my carport inside my fully fenced in yard). The Car Stunk for weeks and the brand new Carpet is stained. Then the Cats sprayed my welcome mat by my front door so that had to be trashed. Then the cats get into fights outside my window at 3:00am constantly. I have warned the neighbor that she does not keep her cats on her property, I will call animal control and have them picked up. She gave the same BS excuse that cats need to be outside.

Then your neighbor needs to get that cat fixed. Mine is and doesn't spray. He also is very passive. I have seen him in two fights. One that was more a hissing match then anything and one when another cat came in through the window.

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Keep your cat inside or find it another home. Be a responsible pet owner.

I went around to all my other neighbors and talked to them about my cat and if he was causing problems. The answer was no, from each of them. They all feel the same way as I do. "This is the Ghetto, all our cats roam."

Dom

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In the end I think pets can be let outside, but have them nutered first and if they cause great annoyence to the community, think what you can do to prevent it. BUT everybody in your community should accept that there are pets running about. If you really have a big problem with that, than go live in the desert or someplace else or perhaps get into politics and try to change the rules of your community.

You are right. Mine was nutered as soon as it was possible. How many cats that are nuetered do you see running around getting into fights all the time?

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I had him neutered early on, and he's a good natured mellow cat. Never had a problem with him or with the neighbors.

As I did with mine. As far as I know the only big problem this person had wth my cat was that he was fighting all the time with his cats. I don't get it. My cat is very mellow and just wants to be petted. He is not the typical stand offish cat. This guy comes when ya call him and nows where he is not wanted.

Now if ya make friends with him and he sees you, he will come say hello. IF you don't pay attention to him then he stays away. This person had made "friends" with my cat.

Dom

[tsisson 0]

It's all about consequences...

Let your cat roam...he/she might get shot with a pellet gun. I can accept that. It's a consequence to the roaming.

But...also consider this...

Shoot my cat/dog whatever with your pellet gun...I will thoroughly beat your ass. It's a consequence to the shooting.

Anyone who doesn't treat animals kindly is not to be trusted in my book...

[billvon 2,990]

>Anyone who doesn't treat animals kindly is not to be trusted in my book...

You mean pets, right? Most people in the US think nothing of poisoning rats, squirrels or raccoons. And they eat meat and wear leather. So the trick becomes - how do you tell strays from pets?