Zenister 0 #76 July 20, 2005 QuoteSubspace is an altered state of consciousness, one that varies from person to person but in which one’s awareness is altered dramatically. Some submissives become immersed in sensations, to the point that they become unaware of anything else (their environment, their identity, time); others shut off entirely, entering a trance state in which they are no longer conscious of their actions, experiences or surroundings. In any case, it is clear that subspace can be considered a sort of dissociated state. However, at least ideally, the nature of the change of consciousness is different from trauma-related dissociation.... which is also why many people experiment with drugs... you can find freefall without ever steping in an aircraft... of course most things are better with a partner.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #77 July 20, 2005 QuoteNice rope work on that 2nd pic. ropes are FAAAR more esthetically and texturally interesting than any other form imo... even their removal creates additional sensation and a lovely transition as the skin recovers... google 'shibari' or simply ask for a demonstration next time you see me.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #78 July 20, 2005 Nice pics... But dammit... I'm trying to work! (Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be reading dropzone.com while I'm working?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #79 July 20, 2005 Quotegoogle 'shibari' or simply ask for a demonstration next time you see me.. I'm looking forward to the next time i see you. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #80 July 20, 2005 Quote>please summarize The thread immediately degenerated into veiled references to sex, people flirting with each other, R and X rated pictures, and guys asking women for personal assistance with their understanding of the subject in question. Business as usual in Bonfire in other words. Bill, I think that this paragraph should be a sticky on the top of Bonfire entitled "What will happen when you post here." Similar to the one at the top of the Incidents forum, it will serve to educate those new in the ways of Bonfire. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #81 July 20, 2005 Quote>Nice rope work on that 2nd pic. You should see some of Midori's work. Saw her do her thing at Leatherfest XI; she's amazing. We have one of her books. She's amazing. She was doing a demo here at Madam S but I missed it. -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #82 July 20, 2005 QuoteOK to get everyone else back on track, go here: Something naughty Truly NSFW. Ummm............Shannon................thank you. QuoteI like to stick with the standard "yellow" & "red". I laughed pretty hard when I was in Air Marshal training and the "safe word" for our role players was "Red." This guy wanted to be an asshole and NOT get up out of a seat. I told him flat out "I'm trying not to hurt you." He still didn't get up so I put him in a nice wrist lock and instantly he is yelling "RED RED RED RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" That was the first time I had ever heard someone scream a safe word with absolutely NO sexual connotations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #83 July 20, 2005 You people are all degenerates... I'm this close to locking this thread since its so immoral and deviant in nature, but I wont, just in case I may learn something.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #84 July 20, 2005 QuoteYou people are all degenerates... I'm this close to locking this thread since its so immoral and deviant in nature, but I wont, just in case I may learn something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpchikk 0 #85 July 20, 2005 QuoteYou people are all degenerates... I'm this close to locking this thread since its so immoral and deviant in nature, but I wont, just in case I may learn something. That's the whole reason I started it... it's for educational purposes... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #86 July 20, 2005 I don't have a safe word... i've never needed a safe word... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #87 July 20, 2005 yup RED for stop, YELLOW for slow the fuck down cause your getting to a point I wont be able to continue...and hehehe I wanna continue, and GREEN for more...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #88 July 20, 2005 QuoteI'm not playing coy.. I'm just not paying attention. Riiiiiiiiiiight. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #89 July 20, 2005 Quoteyup RED for stop, YELLOW for slow the fuck down cause your getting to a point I wont be able to continue...and hehehe I wanna continue, and GREEN for more... I'll try to keep it in the yellow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #90 July 20, 2005 QuoteQuoteOhhh perhaps.. but a few might surprise you. Ummm............no.............you wouldn't surprise me at all. ROFL! ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #91 July 20, 2005 mmmmmm yellllloooowwwwSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,996 #92 July 20, 2005 >yup RED for stop . . . To be serious for a second here, safewords don't always work with bottoms who go very far away. You have to bug them to see if they're OK, since they get sort of unresponsive. Since that either means they really like what's going on or they're unconscious, it can be hard to determine which it is quickly. Combine that with some bottoms who _do_ pass out after certain, uh, events, and you can have your hands full making sure they are OK. I now return you to your regularly scheduled flirtations . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cindee 0 #93 July 20, 2005 Quoteask for a demonstration next time you see me.. It might be a while until I see you, but please feel free to post some pics of your work. Also, I have noticed that engineer's really seem to be into rope work - is that just a coincidence? __________________________________________________ "If happy little bluebirds fly above the rainbow, why oh why can't I?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #94 July 21, 2005 very few pictures exist.. it is much more a thing of the moment, an intimate experience that only occurs once and so a photograph (no matter how esthetically pleasing to the eye) fails to capture the real essence... but i would be breaking my word if i published the ones have taken, and keeping my word allows me all sorts of interesting opportunities i would otherwise miss.... as for the number of engineers, you may well be right... there is something about rather simple functions and the way they create complex and interesting patterns and results that is incredibly attractive at any level or field..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #95 July 21, 2005 QuoteIt's a password to get the person to stop what they are doing in the heat of passion usually used during S&M activities... And it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot of good when the gag is properly secured, either! -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpchikk 0 #96 July 21, 2005 Quote And it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot of good when the gag is properly secured, either! Very true... which is the problem I run into... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanda965 0 #97 July 21, 2005 Quote>yup RED for stop . . . To be serious for a second here, safewords don't always work with bottoms who go very far away. You have to bug them to see if they're OK, since they get sort of unresponsive. Since that either means they really like what's going on or they're unconscious, it can be hard to determine which it is quickly. Combine that with some bottoms who _do_ pass out after certain, uh, events, and you can have your hands full making sure they are OK. I now return you to your regularly scheduled flirtations . . . So I am just wondering, if people become this far away from reality, do people die doing this?? It is definitely interesting to a point, but I dont know if I could relax enough without AIR to BREATHE that I could enjoy it without spazzing out. It is neat to see how far people go though, I would defnitely be up for experimentation, just a ? of "how far is too far?"Blue skies and SAFE landings! ~Amanda~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #98 July 21, 2005 My usual safe word is furgenkataghensfuirchenstien.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #99 July 21, 2005 QuoteAnd it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot of good when the gag is properly secured, either! That's why you keep an eye on them, have them snap their fingers, or, my favorite, the rubber cat toy balls with bells inside. If they drop it, it makes a racket and means stop.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #100 July 21, 2005 QuoteI would defnitely be up for experimentation, just a ? of "how far is too far?" This is the question for you to explore and hence the purpose of the journey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
