NotBond 0 #1 October 12, 2008 Ok, I guess I'm about to join the rest of you folks. Can't put it off any longer - I wanna jump more! So, a few questions - I have one tandem. Should I do another, static line, or AFF? My local DZ (anyone from Sky Knights, East Troy, Wis, USA here?) specifies a certain maximum time between student jumps - 30 days requires a safety review, 60 days requires repeat of last level, I believe. Is this particular to them, or a USPA rule? I know equipment is included during training, but after one gets thier lisence, what is the average cost of equipment and plane for jumps? I'm sure other questions will follow....Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyways... - John Wayne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllisonH 0 #2 October 13, 2008 If you know you want to jump more, do either static line or AFF (both have pro's and cons, lots of threads here on that if you search, but do whichever one your local drozone offers that fits your schedule/budget/learning style). The recurrency rules are USPA recommendations. Depending on the dropzone they may be set in stone, or may be flexible by a few days depending on circumstances, but as a student it is a good idea to jump as frequently as you can. You will learn things more quickly, likely have to repeat fewer jumps, and probably be safer and more comfortable in the air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #3 October 13, 2008 Quote but as a student it is a good idea to jump as frequently as you can. You will learn things more quickly, likely have to repeat fewer jumps, and probably be safer and more comfortable in the air. Besides, it's fun. "That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #4 October 13, 2008 Check out skydive Wissota in Eau Claire. Great prices and awesome people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #5 October 13, 2008 Quote Ok, I guess I'm about to join the rest of you folks. Can't put it off any longer - I wanna jump more! So, a few questions - I have one tandem. Should I do another, static line, or AFF? My local DZ (anyone from Sky Knights, East Troy, Wis, USA here?) specifies a certain maximum time between student jumps - 30 days requires a safety review, 60 days requires repeat of last level, I believe. Is this particular to them, or a USPA rule? I know equipment is included during training, but after one gets thier lisence, what is the average cost of equipment and plane for jumps? I'm sure other questions will follow.... Hey there! The sky's the limit for you at this point! You could do tandem, SL or AFF. We would be happy to have you do any of them. I'm an instructor from Sky Knights The time between jumps is a USPA rule, and a good one. If it goes a bit too long between jumps you can start to forget some of the specific stuff and a refresher helps bring that all up to the surface. We have rental equiptment for the period between when you get done with student training and when you buy your first rig. That first rig can range anywhere from $2000 all the way up to $7000+ depending on how fancy you want it to be. (The cheaper ones work just as well in most cases and are what most beginning skydivers start out with) Hope to see you out jumping! (You'll find me wandering about working on all the maintenance we need to get done before winter) ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #6 October 17, 2008 Quote Ok, I guess I'm about to join the rest of you folks. Can't put it off any longer - I wanna jump more! So, a few questions - I have one tandem. Should I do another, static line, or AFF? My local DZ (anyone from Sky Knights, East Troy, Wis, USA here?) specifies a certain maximum time between student jumps - 30 days requires a safety review, 60 days requires repeat of last level, I believe. Is this particular to them, or a USPA rule? I know equipment is included during training, but after one gets thier lisence, what is the average cost of equipment and plane for jumps? I'm sure other questions will follow.... AFF - go big or stay home.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chubba 0 #7 October 17, 2008 QuoteAFF - go big or stay home.Dooooooo it! I did AFF for my first jump and loved it. If you have enough interest to sign up and post on DZ.com, I say you have the bug already, get started on your training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #8 October 17, 2008 >AFF - go big or stay home. AFF is faster. You learn more in SL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danielcroft 2 #9 October 18, 2008 And you're apparently not a real skydiver if you learn IAF so steer clear of that or you'll never get to puppy chaser status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #10 October 18, 2008 Quote>AFF - go big or stay home. AFF is faster. You learn more in SL. You'll learn more if you double your jump numbers under instruction With static line you can't graduate without having about twice the minum number it takes to get cleared for self supervision under AFF but that's not quite the same thing. Provided that you don't neglect learning how to spot, doing hop-and-ops for fun, and learning something about canopy flight after the first 7 once you reach 50 jumps there shouldn't be a difference in how you got there. In some parts of the country, getting good weather and aircraft to make it through AFF without becoming uncurrent in the off-season would be unlikely to happen and the DZs won't try. In some parts of the country they won't waste hte profit margin on static line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #11 October 18, 2008 Quote I know equipment is included during training, but after one gets thier lisence, what is the average cost of equipment and plane for jumps? Under $10 to over $50 depending on where you live, what sort of planes and infrastructure the DZ owns, what profits the DZ makes from who, how high you go, whether you have to rent gear, what sort of gear you own (newish gear depreciates $2/jump total for main and container; custom gear in your color more if you want to sell it soon, and old gear bought at a good price sells for what you paid), and how many jumps you're splitting your fixed costs over (a repack every 120 days costs the same whether you do 1 jump or 500). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,991 #12 October 18, 2008 >once you reach 50 jumps there shouldn't be a difference in how you got there. Agreed. The difference starts to disappear after about 50 jumps. However, I still know a lot of AFF grads who could never spot an aircraft for real (i.e. tell the pilot where to go) and who would rather land with a plane that lost power than exit at 3000 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
billvon 2,991 #12 October 18, 2008 >once you reach 50 jumps there shouldn't be a difference in how you got there. Agreed. The difference starts to disappear after about 50 jumps. However, I still know a lot of AFF grads who could never spot an aircraft for real (i.e. tell the pilot where to go) and who would rather land with a plane that lost power than exit at 3000 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites