marks 0 #26 May 28, 2005 Quotebut i'm very sure i'd rather not trade that chemical stability for my creativity and energy....and i can certainly feel the difference thats funny. because what the drugs do for me is help bring my energy level down to a point where i can handle it... it is still WAY out of controll.. creativity on the otherhand... hasnt changed one bit for me. off meds im full throttle till i crash.... like a sugar rush but a little longer.... on the meds everything is more even. the energy level is still there by far.. just stableized.. the reason why i switched to concerta though is because i DONT have to take it all the time.... just when i feel like it is going to help... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #27 May 28, 2005 ja the energy isnt a problem..it is being able to focus to direct it that takes effort, but the drugs always made me feel sluggish and there was a major difference in the scope and tone of my ideas when i was on them at one point i lined up alot of the my paintings over the period when i was medicated and not, the differences were very obvious... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MaryP 0 #28 May 29, 2005 Although I personally do not have ADHD, both my ex and my 28-year old daughter have it. So, yes, I have "lived with it" and I have seen, first hand, the effects that it has had on not only my daughter and my ex-, but also the effects it has had on the family, and also the effects it has had on their social and business relationships. If you go back and read my first post about this, it was in response to minobu's question regarding people's experience with Ritalin. I NEVER said that it is the only answer -- what I did say is that is what extremely helpful in my daughter's case. As far as looking for alternatives to Ritalin, I HAVE DEFINITELY researched ADHD in depth over the last 15 years (when my daughter was diagnosed with it) and she has even resorted to trying biofeedback as a way to control it. However, that, too, was not a viable solution for my daughter. I do take offense to your statement "why work, develop and teach self discipline skills when a pill can make it all go away for you???" Just curious -- do you take aspirin for a headache or cold meds when you have a cold or any other over-the-counter drugs or prescription drugs? This is my last post on this subject because it has definitely gotten away from the original question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #29 May 29, 2005 ask your daughter what SHE thinks... not what the doctors think.... SHE knows what and how she is, not the doctor...... the doctors get the info from the person, not the other way around...... im sure she knows what is best for HER..... the doctor can ONLY make an educated GUESS.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #30 May 29, 2005 QuoteJust curious -- do you take aspirin for a headache or cold meds when you have a cold or any other over-the-counter drugs or prescription drugs? no.. as a general rule i do not, unless i am completely unable to function without them..most colds can be avoided by proper hygiene and lifestyle choices..when they do occur in a healthy individual they tend to be minor inconveniences.. aspirin is a naturally occurring substance, but even then i avoid it in nearly all circumstances.. people have lived for thousands of years without resorting to the kind of manufactured chemicals and levels of prescription pharmaceuticals our society is so enamored with the .. yet suddenly (in the last 50 particularly) 'a pill' is the answer to everything.. there are almost always better alternatives.. but they take more time and effort than 'popping a few pills' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #31 May 29, 2005 Quoteyet suddenly (in the last 50 particularly) 'a pill' is the answer to everything.. People had ADD and ADHD before, they just didn't know that's what it was. Instead of being diagnosed with a medical disorder, they were passed off as underachievers, class clowns and high school dropouts. Surprisingly, most ADD patients are very intelligent. Doctors can now see the difference between ADD patients and "regular" people by using brain scans. It's a real chemical disorder of the brain and like many other disorders it can be controlled with medication.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #32 May 29, 2005 Quoteit can be controlled with medication. yup, and can be controlled without as well.... but of course everyone has to be 'regular' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #33 May 29, 2005 QuoteI do take offense to your statement "why work, develop and teach self discipline skills when a pill can make it all go away for you???" Just curious -- do you take aspirin for a headache or cold meds when you have a cold or any other over-the-counter drugs or prescription drugs? This is my last post on this subject because it has definitely gotten away from the original question. Probably a good thing, as you confuse association with the condition to having it. Us who do have it do know far more about it than the Mayo clinic, doctors etc. We've spent years learining mechanisms to cope with it and we do quite nicely thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Zenister 0 #30 May 29, 2005 QuoteJust curious -- do you take aspirin for a headache or cold meds when you have a cold or any other over-the-counter drugs or prescription drugs? no.. as a general rule i do not, unless i am completely unable to function without them..most colds can be avoided by proper hygiene and lifestyle choices..when they do occur in a healthy individual they tend to be minor inconveniences.. aspirin is a naturally occurring substance, but even then i avoid it in nearly all circumstances.. people have lived for thousands of years without resorting to the kind of manufactured chemicals and levels of prescription pharmaceuticals our society is so enamored with the .. yet suddenly (in the last 50 particularly) 'a pill' is the answer to everything.. there are almost always better alternatives.. but they take more time and effort than 'popping a few pills' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #31 May 29, 2005 Quoteyet suddenly (in the last 50 particularly) 'a pill' is the answer to everything.. People had ADD and ADHD before, they just didn't know that's what it was. Instead of being diagnosed with a medical disorder, they were passed off as underachievers, class clowns and high school dropouts. Surprisingly, most ADD patients are very intelligent. Doctors can now see the difference between ADD patients and "regular" people by using brain scans. It's a real chemical disorder of the brain and like many other disorders it can be controlled with medication.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #32 May 29, 2005 Quoteit can be controlled with medication. yup, and can be controlled without as well.... but of course everyone has to be 'regular' ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #33 May 29, 2005 QuoteI do take offense to your statement "why work, develop and teach self discipline skills when a pill can make it all go away for you???" Just curious -- do you take aspirin for a headache or cold meds when you have a cold or any other over-the-counter drugs or prescription drugs? This is my last post on this subject because it has definitely gotten away from the original question. Probably a good thing, as you confuse association with the condition to having it. Us who do have it do know far more about it than the Mayo clinic, doctors etc. We've spent years learining mechanisms to cope with it and we do quite nicely thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
