Friends on a date?

[Zenister 0]

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95% of them want to fuck you. Sorry, it's fact!
Can't anyone just have friends these days????

Damn, I can so relate to this. I have a ton of guy friends, most are very attractive, but I am not interested in going "THERE".... But damn people like to talk and "invent" stories, what is so wrong with a girl having male friends?

absolutely nothing, but it doesnt change the way men are wired...its sort of like seeing a mountain every day and never wondering what is on the otherside... if you are a guy that just doesnt happen... you may never cross the mountain, but you still wonder.....

95% is low.. unless the 5% is gay...

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[swedishcelt 0]

I have many male friends that I talk to and go out with. They are just friends. Only a few are real interests. My interests and friends are all the same that way too. If my interests weren't well liked I wouldn't be interested in them. It's all good as long as I get treated well and with respect.

[Joellercoaster 6]

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Being a woman's "friend" is slap in the face..."You're such a good friend"...ugh!

"To me
Coming from you
Friend is a four letter word..."

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[Salsa_John 0]

I have many female friends...

my rule is if sex of any type is the intention now or in the future then it is a date.

I have crashed with friends a few times. It is no biggie.

Sometimes sex can screw up a good friendship.

2c

"You did what?!?!"

MUFF #3722, TDSM #72, Orfun #26, Nachos Rodriguez

[jasonRose 0]

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Friendships with girls are complicated but fun, be honest with yourself and with them. If they are just a friend then keep the johnson in your pants, friend sex only lasts a while and someone always ends up getting hurt. It seems to me it's a lot easier to talk to girls about your secrets than to guys, because us guys will just make fun of each other and girls actualy listen without making you feel like a dumbass which makes girls killer friends.

Thank you... there is hope for guys and I think it's vain for a girl to assume that just because he's a guy means that he wants to have sex with her. I think guys sometimes would put girls into the "just friends" categories too. There have been many guys that I'm sure that I've been "just one of the guys" with.... you wouldn't want to screw "one of the guys". (not that I've propositioned them and got a "real" answer... but just from my perceptions)

Karen

Unless your butt ugly and a bitch guys will want to have sex with girls, even then enough beer might make it ok. So girls it is safe to assume we want SEX! We are pigs but we can't help it God gave girls the hardware that is like gold to us.
Friends that are girls kick ass, have I thought about having sex with them, you bet, would I have sex with them, HELL NO.
Friendship is sacred male/female any guy taking advantage of it to get a piece of ass is a dick head in my book.
Live Long, Laugh Hard and don't let your dick do the thinking for ya.

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[Vallerina 2]

One of my best guy friends has taken me to dinners and shows. Heck no is that a date!!!!!

Back in high school one guy took me to dinner and then a play. He thought it was a date. I didn't. I dated him later on, but at that point I wasn't interested nor had any clue he was interested.

Just say, "I'd like to take you out on a date sometime."

There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning

[nvanduyn 0]

rofl, yep.

Anyone here ever hear of the Ladder Theory.

"IF A MAN FINDS YOU ATTRACTIVE YOU CANNOT BE FRIENDS

Many women want to argue this point and say things like " I have lots of guy friends." Maybe. There are exactly 3 cases Intellectual Whores has identified whereby a guy and a girl can be friends:

1. The guy is gay
2. The guy does not find you attractive
3. The guy already has a woman much higher than you on the ladder

Even Nietzsche knew this. Most guys know this intuitively. Most girls doubt. I have a challenge for all of you girls who still doubt. Pick a guy who does not meet any of the criterion on the above list that you think is your friend. Then ask yourself this question: If you were both alone at his place one night, and you excused yourself to the bathroom and came out naked and asked him to have sex with you would he:

1. Tell you he doesn't want to risk the beautiful friendship you have created with messy physical entanglements.

2. Comply"

Also states that girls have 2 different ladders, a real ladder and a "Friends ladder". If your on the freinds ladder...your fucked.

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[ACMESkydiver 0]

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rofl, yep.

Anyone here ever hear of the Ladder Theory.

"IF A MAN FINDS YOU ATTRACTIVE YOU CANNOT BE FRIENDS

Many women want to argue this point and say things like " I have lots of guy friends." Maybe. There are exactly 3 cases Intellectual Whores has identified whereby a guy and a girl can be friends:

1. The guy is gay
2. The guy does not find you attractive
3. The guy already has a woman much higher than you on the ladder

Absolutely! That's why I maintain such a high body fat percentage. Otherwise all of my guy friends would want to fuck me!

Oh shit wait...I don't have any guy friends that I 'go out with' by myself...

Well if I did, and I was single, that would soooo be the case, I'm sure!

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[IMGR2 0]

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rofl, yep.

Anyone here ever hear of the Ladder Theory.

"IF A MAN FINDS YOU ATTRACTIVE YOU CANNOT BE FRIENDS

Many women want to argue this point and say things like " I have lots of guy friends." Maybe. There are exactly 3 cases Intellectual Whores has identified whereby a guy and a girl can be friends:

1. The guy is gay
2. The guy does not find you attractive
3. The guy already has a woman much higher than you on the ladder

Even Nietzsche knew this. Most guys know this intuitively. Most girls doubt. I have a challenge for all of you girls who still doubt. Pick a guy who does not meet any of the criterion on the above list that you think is your friend. Then ask yourself this question: If you were both alone at his place one night, and you excused yourself to the bathroom and came out naked and asked him to have sex with you would he:

1. Tell you he doesn't want to risk the beautiful friendship you have created with messy physical entanglements.

2. Comply"

Also states that girls have 2 different ladders, a real ladder and a "Friends ladder". If your on the freinds ladder...your fucked.

DUDE!!! That was amazing and I think you hit it on the head.

THANK YOU!

[SkySurfSnow 0]

In depth discussion of the ladder theory from the horses mouth.


www.intellectualwhores.com

[Zenister 0]

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Friends that are girls kick ass, have I thought about having sex with them, you bet, would I have sex with them, HELL NO.
Friendship is sacred male/female any guy taking advantage of it to get a piece of ass is a dick head in my book.

the only reason it becomes an issue at all is because of jealousy and an immature attitude toward sex. Adults (or even mature teenagers) who are capable of separating the purely physical and highly enjoyable act of sex from a commitment have no issues with the occasional roll in the sack...

only when immaturity and basic jealousy enter the picture does such physical contact become an issue… if you are capable of separating the two (i.e. your mind controls your feelings and actions instead of your hormones) sex between friends is one of the best things in the entire world….a simple enjoyable release without messy entanglements.

As long as you are not committed to another what difference does it make?? Would you be skittish about giving your friend a backrub?? If you are you might what to examine your REAL motivations…

Denying your desire is a sign of immaturity.. being incapable of dealing with a friend you have had sex with on a non sexual level equally so….

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Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

[tbrown 26]

My senior year in college I did a lot of social dating with a woman who was a friend of mine. Wasn't interested in sex with her, even though she was really good looking. We just didn't get along on that level and would've fought like cats & dogs. But the situation was that her boyfriend was off on the road doing something (fairly typical in the seventies), so she was home alone for a really long time. It was a college town and there were all kinds of events and affairs she wanted to attend that she didn't want to go to by herself. I was seeing other women at the time, but they were cool and understood our friendship and thought I was doing a good thing squiring her around, so everybody had a good time. I would definitely say they were dates, even without any sex, which she and I were both getting from other people.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[nvanduyn 0]

you can always be "friends...with privileges"

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[chaoskitty 0]

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Its a stage play, something He would not normally do.

If he is willing to do something he would not normally do, its a date.

(did someone already say that? I'm too drunk to read the whole thread. ) (hi moffett.. ! )

[happythoughts 0]

There's no mystery. There are "date" rules and "friend" rules.

If they are paying for dinner, movies, etc - it's a date. Also, the content of the conversation will tell.

I have friends that I skydive and scuba dive with. They pay for their own jump tickets or whatever.
I go scuba diving with 8 friends. Some are women. Sometimes it is a weekend. They pay for their own room and boat slot.

If someone is doing something for you and they wouldn't do it for a same-sex friend, it's a date.