TLob456 0 #1 January 30, 2009 I am looking into purchasing either a Sabre 2 or a Safire 2 WL to 1.23. One thing I like about the Sabre is how well it holds value, is that similar in a Safire? Any other major differences anyone has experience with between the two? Thanks for you time and help. #jumps: 120 years: 1 exit weight: 185 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #3 January 30, 2009 Or answering the question about value? Sabres2s do hold their value well. But even try finding a secondhand Safire2... the fact that people jump them, but you hardly ever see them advertised, is a big hint. They don't seem to need advertising -- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baksteen 84 #4 January 30, 2009 Quote Or Search? good idea! A lot of good advice there..."That formation-stuff in freefall is just fun and games but with an open parachute it's starting to sound like, you know, an extreme sport." ~mom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #5 January 30, 2009 Quote Quote Or Search? good idea! A lot of good advice there... “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #6 January 30, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Or Search? good idea! A lot of good advice there... I searched through those results and couldn't find any thing of, or on, value ."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #7 January 30, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Or Search? good idea! A lot of good advice there... I searched through those results and couldn't find any thing of, or on, value . Buying a new canopy is not a good investment. Buying a popular mid range canopy is a bit better, because those are much more easier to sell. Usually the best deal is getting something with 150-200 jumps, price can be 30-50% of the new price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #8 February 1, 2009 QuoteOr Search? I'm going to get rather merciless about this. "Search" is a euphemism for "go away kid, you bother me". If this OP's question bothers you, simply refrain from adding your worthless opinion. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to answer. As far as Sabre vs Safire goes, both are second generation canopies by now, Sabre2 and Safire2. I don't jump either one. What my friends who do jump them tell me is that the Safire2 has a very soft but slow opening that may or not be acceptable to you. The Sabre2 has a quicker opening, but one that tends to be off heading more often and occasionally packs a spanking. But ANY canopy can slam you on opening, including the Pilot canopies I jump. I'm told the Safire2 has an incredible flare. And a lot of people say that the Sabre2 is a good canopy to begin to learn to swoop with. Guess the real answer is to DEMO the crap out of them both and see which one you like better. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #9 February 1, 2009 QuoteQuoteOr Search? I'm going to get rather merciless about this. "Search" is a euphemism for "go away kid, you bother me". If this OP's question bothers you, simply refrain from adding your worthless opinion. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to answer.. it seems like you have as much of a problem with people who tell others to use search about a topic that gets discussed weekly, as those people have a problem with the people who are unable to use search. funny. But given a choice, I'd rather be proactive than complacent. so yeah, OP should have used search. No chew me out, tbrown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
