sfzombie13 324 #26 April 13, 2005 i used to think that way, but now i think there is hope for unions due to some lawsuits brought by some of my brothers and sisters in the ubc. NEVER cross a picket line, i know some people in wv have been killed doing that. i also know a guy who torched the car of a scab during a strike and later found out that it was one of the union guys' car. i also know that if we work in a town and another union goes on strike, we get $2/hr taken out of our checks to pay the strike pay they get. it may suck, but i don't mind it, it helps out a little. like was said before, everyone has different advice, but i would ask for a layoff so i could draw unemployment. if it's not your union that strikes, they will probably not let yo cross the line, but the employer may give yo the layoff. it beats not working, looking for another job, or getting killed._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #27 April 13, 2005 I would have to agree with those who suggest contacting your union rep/steward. Having been a Teamster at one time, you are better off checking with your local first. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #28 April 13, 2005 when your friends are unemplyed thank your Union that you still have a job._______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyesspot 0 #29 April 13, 2005 Thanks all for all the experiences shared and advice given. I did talk to my union rep and we are not "officially" doing anything in sympathy. On the flip side, my employer has said that actions will be taken against those that do not show up, and if you call in sick a dr's note will be needed for proof. They are providing a "side door" entrance for employees and beefed up security. Life is too short. Don't sweat the small stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #30 April 13, 2005 Quotewhen your friends are unemplyed [for horsing around... or simply not doing their job] thank your Union that you still have a job [that you just can't seem to get fired from no matter what you do]. There, fixed that for ya. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #31 April 13, 2005 Keystone Steel & Wire: Company to Union: Union, management has taken all the cuts that we can take. It's your turn. Here's the consessions you need to make. If you don't, we're going to have to declare bankruptcy. Union to Company: Screw you. You can't take anything from us. Company declares bankruptcy - Judge to Union: Union, you should have taken the deal the company was offering you as it's much better than what I'm going to give you. [editorial]Unions once were a necessary thing, but they sometimes do not change with the times and don't realize what a global economy can do. It's sometimes better to take consessions after looking at the financials than the 'screw you' attitude. Bottom line, if I don't agree with the reasoning the union is striking, I'd cross. Besides, ultimately I'm looking out for #1 - my mouth and my pocket... Caterpillar recently signed a 6 year contract with the union and 'had' to give some consessions on now having to pay for medical benefits. If memory serves, a single person would have to pay 15$ per paycheck ($30/month) and some were wondering how they were going to be able to afford this. I'm not sure about your situation, but Caterpillar is/was a place you could go start working on the floor building tractors and make a decent living, even after giving the union their cut of your check. The union really blew their strike fund last time they went on a multiple year strike. In the long run, the members ended up losing all the income for several years and the union ended up signing the same contract they were offered years before - and the claimed 'victory'. Truth be told, they screwed their members, but don't share that with the members. They're awed by the smoke and mirrors.[/editoral] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #32 April 13, 2005 QuoteQuotewhen your friends are unemplyed [for horsing around... or simply not doing their job] thank your Union that you still have a job [that you just can't seem to get fired from no matter what you do]. There, fixed that for ya. Your job has just been EXPORTED. enjoy poverty get yourself "fixed"_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustaBill 0 #33 April 13, 2005 We had a guy cross a picket line to go to work. The union fined him basicaly the equivilent of 2 days pay for it. So he ended up paying the union the money he made plus a day. He also had a real hard time with fellow coworkers who honored the strike. He was forever labeled as "Picket Pete" In an unrelated incident we were being picketed by a local construction union because our company (everyone at our company has to be union) was using non union labor to build a building. When the non union guys showed up to work and crossed the picket line the union guys trashed their vehicle. My advice is don't do it, and if you do, do it with extreme caution------------------------------------------------ I've done so much, with so little, for so long I'm now expected to do everything with nothing forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #34 April 13, 2005 QuoteMy advice is don't do it, and if you do... Go out and invest in a $200 beater to drive to work... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #35 April 13, 2005 QuoteThanks all for all the experiences shared and advice given. I did talk to my union rep and we are not "officially" doing anything in sympathy. On the flip side, my employer has said that actions will be taken against those that do not show up, and if you call in sick a dr's note will be needed for proof. They are providing a "side door" entrance for employees and beefed up security. ___________________________________- Just be very, very careful and good luck to you. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #36 April 13, 2005 Eastern Airlines had the same thing happen. Labor unrest crippled it after Frank Lorenzo bought the airline in 1986. When the pilots joined, Eastern declared bankruptcy. Mind you, Lorenzo bought the airline at a discount when the prior CEO (astronaut Frank Borman) threatened to sell the airline to Lorenzo, which made the machinists go on strike. Then the pilots and flight attendants struck. So, the unions managed to put their members out of jobs, and Lorenzo and the shareholders got to get a return on their money. Hmmm. Who lost out? Everyone. Who lost more? I'd say the machinists, pilots, flight attendants, reservations, baggage handlers, etc, lost huge. Lorenzo's doing just fine. I'll bet the union leadership did just fine, too. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
lawrocket 3 #36 April 13, 2005 Eastern Airlines had the same thing happen. Labor unrest crippled it after Frank Lorenzo bought the airline in 1986. When the pilots joined, Eastern declared bankruptcy. Mind you, Lorenzo bought the airline at a discount when the prior CEO (astronaut Frank Borman) threatened to sell the airline to Lorenzo, which made the machinists go on strike. Then the pilots and flight attendants struck. So, the unions managed to put their members out of jobs, and Lorenzo and the shareholders got to get a return on their money. Hmmm. Who lost out? Everyone. Who lost more? I'd say the machinists, pilots, flight attendants, reservations, baggage handlers, etc, lost huge. Lorenzo's doing just fine. I'll bet the union leadership did just fine, too. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
