I need advice on selling a main canopy

[FlyinNover 0]

First off, I apologize if this is the wrong forum for this post.


I want to sell my Sabre 190 (canopy only, no rig). More specs at the bottom of this post.

1: I have no idea what it's worth. It's got about 800 jumps on it, I'm the third owner that I'm aware of. I got a good deal on it from my sister (full rig for $500), so I can't base its value on what I paid for it. How do I go about pricing it?

2: I'm gong to have a rigger check it out before I put it up for sale. Would a typical rigger mind if I included their info in the ad? As in: "For sale, canopy, checked and certified by John Rigger at Skydive Suchandsuch on 3/10/09, FAA # 12345"

3: Where besides DZ.com is the best place to sell it? I'm very familiar with Ebay, but I *think* it'd be better to sell it somewhere skydiving related, like at a DZ. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance for your help!

More Specs: It's been sitting in a plastic trash bag in a dry basement for 5+ years. Before that it was in a Talon container that some soulless prick stole out of my car. I don't know why they didn't take the canopy, but I don't try to delve into the logic of thieves. Because of this history I can't personally vouch that it has all the components it should have. I know enough about skydiving to know that I don't know enough about gear. Hence, the rigger.

For what it's worth, I never jumped it. My sister did, and the owner before her.

---Michael

[GaryRay 0]

bring it to the DZ, and put up for sale signs, probably go faster like that b/c there is always someone trying to build a spare rig or a new guy just trying to get his together. as for the price, there is a PD pricing guide somewhere on these forums, try the swooping forum or the search function.sorry, i would do it for you but im just to lazy.

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[likestojump 3]

best place for you to sell it is dropzone.com or your local DZ.

should sell for 350-700 depending on the condition and how beat up the lines are.

As far as putting rigger info - just ask them if hey are ok with it, no need for the FAA ID. I bet you'll still want people to get it shipped to THEIR rigger. Damn paranoia.

[tetra316 0]

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I bet you'll still want people to get it shipped to THEIR rigger. Damn paranoia.

So if you bought a canopy for you personally, you'd be fine to inspect it yourself and jump it?

Oh wait, you been around the sport a while and are yourself a rigger, doh

I don't quite understand the resistance sellers have in shipping their gear to the buyers rigger for inspection, especially when someone is new and may not know what they are looking at/for. After all it is a life saving piece of equipment....

[likestojump 3]

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I bet you'll still want people to get it shipped to THEIR rigger. Damn paranoia.

So if you bought a canopy for you personally, you'd be fine to inspect it yourself and jump it?

Oh wait, you been around the sport a while and are yourself a rigger, doh

I don't quite understand the resistance sellers have in shipping their gear to the buyers rigger for inspection, especially when someone is new and may not know what they are looking at/for. After all it is a life saving piece of equipment....

Please don't take me out of context Tara.

The OP stated that he is going to have their rigger give a full inspection, and then put it up for sale.

I am just saying it seems a bit excessive to require yet antoher rigger to look at it.

Please don't think I don't understand the reasons WHY - I just *personally* think it's a excessive.

PS I have never required anyone to ship things to me before I paid for them. Anything that I get is paid for upfront. But again, I am not saying that's the way everyone should do it.

[skybytch 273]

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The OP stated that he is going to have their rigger give a full inspection, and then put it up for sale.

I am just saying it seems a bit excessive to require yet antoher rigger to look at it.

Please don't think I don't understand the reasons WHY - I just *personally* think it's a excessive.

Any canopy or container that I buy is going to be inspected by my rigger before I jump it. Doesn't matter if it was inspected by the seller's rigger or not.

Why? I know what it takes to get a riggers ticket. I know several folks who have that piece of paper who I wouldn't let inspect my shoes, much less my lifesaving devices.

Neither the seller nor the seller's rigger have any control over what happens to the item once they hand it off to the shipper.

I wouldn't jump a brand new main without having it inspected by someone I know and trust. Why would I do anything different with a used one?

[tetra316 0]

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I bet you'll still want people to get it shipped to THEIR rigger. Damn paranoia.

So if you bought a canopy for you personally, you'd be fine to inspect it yourself and jump it?

Oh wait, you been around the sport a while and are yourself a rigger, doh

I don't quite understand the resistance sellers have in shipping their gear to the buyers rigger for inspection, especially when someone is new and may not know what they are looking at/for. After all it is a life saving piece of equipment....

Please don't take me out of context Tara.

The OP stated that he is going to have their rigger give a full inspection, and then put it up for sale.

I am just saying it seems a bit excessive to require yet antoher rigger to look at it.

Please don't think I don't understand the reasons WHY - I just *personally* think it's a excessive.

PS I have never required anyone to ship things to me before I paid for them. Anything that I get is paid for upfront. But again, I am not saying that's the way everyone should do it.

No worries, I understand your point. Everyone has a different comfort level.

[FlyinNover 0]

It sounds like some of you are saying NOT to get it inspected first? (that it'd be excessive) Am I understanding you correctly?

How does this normally work? Seller places ad, buyer and seller negotiate, seller sends to buyer's rigger, transaction takes place? If that's what it is, I don't want to be paying to send it around to all the interested buyers' riggers.


---Michael

[tetra316 0]

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How does this normally work? Seller places ad, buyer and seller negotiate, seller sends to buyer's rigger, transaction takes place? If that's what it is, I don't want to be paying to send it around to all the interested buyers' riggers.


---Michael

The times I've bought gear I've sent the money first. Once received the seller then sends the gear. When selling, I got the money first then sent the gear. YMMV. As far as sending it to a rigger, it's whatever the parties decide.

[likestojump 3]

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It sounds like some of you are saying NOT to get it inspected first? (that it'd be excessive) Am I understanding you correctly?

How does this normally work? Seller places ad, buyer and seller negotiate, seller sends to buyer's rigger, transaction takes place? If that's what it is, I don't want to be paying to send it around to all the interested buyers' riggers.


---Michael

Every transaction is different. Two most common ways are :

1) You have the seller send it to your rigger. Your rigger gives it a clean bill of health and you send the seller the $$$.

2) You send seller the $$$, and upon receipt they send you the product.

Some sellers are a not willing to ship before they get paid, and some buyers are not willing to pay before it gets inspected. That sometimes leads to failed transaction, sometimes to people bending their comfort level.

Keep in mind, sending it to their rigger is considered part of the transaction - at this point you have a commitment, and the only way the buyer should be able to back out is if the rigger finds something wrong with it, NOT due to any other reasons (unfortunately it does happen)

It's all unique every time. Just stay within what you are comfortable with, and get the seller/buyer on the phone, personal communication is the key.

[EirAnne 0]

I agree.
First and foremost, if you are buying gear and not a rigger or instructor yourself, you should get the gear checked out by a rigger.
On the other hand, if the rig has been checked out by one reputable rigger, it shouldn't need a second inspection. I don't know any riggers that will lay their reputation on the line to dupe anyone out of a couple of hundred dollars. Anyone that does, won't last long in this business.
To qualify the post I am a rigger. Maybe there are some people out there whose rigging ticket came in a lucky bag, but they are easy to differentiate from expert riggers.
Most people do not want to send their equipment out of town without payment. I think that by offering to have an independent local rigger inspect the gear they are showing good faith.

[BUBLHED 0]

Since you are smart enough to admit that you don't know all that much about gear. I like your plan to have it inspected before putting it up for sale. It will give you an idea of what you've got and if it's a safe canopy for someone to jump. Plus an experienced rigger might be able to help you to price it and very well could know someone looking for exactly that type of canopy. Ebay and the DZ.com classifieds are the two places I watched daily when looking for my new to me gear. As said earlier the local DZ can be a great place to sell it also.

PS. My new rig was inspected and modified buy the manufacturer and you better bet I had it inspected again by my local rigger just to be sure. Overkill? maybie but I am trusting my life to this stuff and for me peace of mind makes it worth the added expense.

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