Re: [likearock] Non-Injury - 4 way CYPRES fire - Skydive Dallas?

[Renegate 0]

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This is a good test. While you want to keep yourself as safe as possible on each jump, making yourself somewhat "less safe" occasionally serves to more safe in the long run. Because device dependency is a real hazard.

I jumped the other day without a wrist altimeter. It turned out to be good confidence building drill, not just for pull time but also for landing as well. I never realized how much I rely on that simple device to plan my approach and set up the landing. It's good to know I can do it without the device should it ever malfunction.

hmm, and maybe once in a while we all should jump without the main and just open the reserve, to "know I can do it without the device (main) should it ever malfunction"?

This discussion has no point, those who believe that safety devices one can safely do without will jump without them. Those that believe that any additional safety is good safety will use the said devices. The First will never convince the Second otherwise and visa versa.

I am however curious as to how often members of a 4-way team, who make 15 points a jump, look at their altimeters.

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[likearock 2]

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This is a good test. While you want to keep yourself as safe as possible on each jump, making yourself somewhat "less safe" occasionally serves to more safe in the long run. Because device dependency is a real hazard.

I jumped the other day without a wrist altimeter. It turned out to be good confidence building drill, not just for pull time but also for landing as well. I never realized how much I rely on that simple device to plan my approach and set up the landing. It's good to know I can do it without the device should it ever malfunction.

hmm, and maybe once in a while we all should jump without the main and just open the reserve, to "know I can do it without the device (main) should it ever malfunction"?

Talk to the BASE jumpers about that.

In spite of your sarcasm, there's nothing wrong with what you just said. Do something that puts you outside of your comfort zone. Complacency kills. Try some CREW and you're less likely to panic when you get close to another canopy. Work on landing while in a flat turn so when you have to do it, it's not a new experience. And yes, see if you can do without those safety devices once in a while.

[DanG 1]

Correct answer: every 3-5 seconds just like you learned in your 1st jump course.

Real world answer: never within the first 35 seconds after exit. Maybe once or twice after that.

- Dan G

[billvon 2,991]

>hmm, and maybe once in a while we all should jump without the main and just
>open the reserve, to "know I can do it without the device (main) should it ever
>malfunction"?

Not a bad idea. Doing a BASE jump or two will teach you a lot about rigging, packing, exits and accuracy - and will give you more confidence in your own abilities.