Guest #76 March 22, 2005 QuoteQuoteNah, those "macho" armageddon guys don't bother me....I love being their instructor and seeing the look on their face when I open that door for the first time Ding, Ding Ding! We have a winner. Its fun to prove their unmachoness to themselves without having to do anything but your job...taking them on their first skydive. I don't have to say a thing, to do that, I just take them out the door and their fear proves themselves to well, themselves for me. I've always wanted to play a reluctant student getting thrown bodily out of the plane by his "instructors" via a Viking Exit in front of first-timers... mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superman0710 0 #77 March 22, 2005 i see it differently, allow me to elaborate: when i went for my DEA physical aptitude test, i was nervous beyond belief (if you fail twice you can't reapply for a whole year.) one of the guys who had done it before (failed) and was here on his second try came up and talked to me, he could see that i was distraught about making the grade. he came up and told me that i had everything i needed to pass, just go, relax and do it. He didn't tell me how i should run, or do my pushups, or sprint, etc. that's what i do with first timers. "hey, first time? yeah. it's gonna be great! just relax, be sure to breathe normally, and totally enjoy the ride, you're gonna have a blast." i don't try and teach them technique, i leave that to the pros. see where i'm coming from? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #78 March 22, 2005 QuoteI've always wanted to play a reluctant student getting thrown bodily out of the plane by his "instructors" via a Viking Exit in front of first-timers... I've joked with friends that we could go to some DZ that doesn't know us, sign up for AFF and then bust into a head down on Level I. Then of course swoop the student canopy on landing. Think they would like us? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #79 March 22, 2005 Quotethat's what i do with first timers. "hey, first time? yeah. it's gonna be great! just relax, be sure to breathe normally, and totally enjoy the ride, you're gonna have a blast." i don't try and teach them technique, i leave that to the pros. see where i'm coming from? I understand where you're coming from, I too tell first timers they'll have fun, but I don;t try and tell them any technique...just my personal experience of my jump. It is good you are trying to encourage "first timers"---but your post just makes it sound like you almost look down on them, or think you are better cause you have 2 more jumps than them. People in this sport need to realize, no matter how many jumps you have, you are not the s***!!!! Someone, somewhere, will always be better or have more jumps than you, so let's just all forget jump numbers and have fun. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #80 March 22, 2005 QuoteQuote"it's a beautiful day to die" is another one i hear occasionally. while it's annoying, .I especially hate it when it's my rigger saying it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! John make funny. Funny John. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #81 March 22, 2005 Regardless I hope you stick with it and when one day when you have 100 plus jumps we'll both be good enough to make a jump together and have a blast !! Blue Ones ..... "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antidote 0 #82 March 22, 2005 Nothing personal, but I'd perceive that as a 'been there done that got the t-shirt' advice. I.e "dude I've done this shitloads of times, no biggie. Some people could take it the wrong way, that's all I'm saying. To more experienced jumpers listening in, you run the risk (depending on your choie of words) of sounding like a wannabe. I usually just tell people it's ok to be nervous, it's normal and you're supposed to be. It's an incredible thing a skydive so there are incredible feelings attached to it. Any question related to techniques in freefall and I refer them to the instructor with the words "He/she knows more about teaching than I do, and I don't wanna tell you something that's not right for you." I know many instructors are pretty annoyed at relative newcomers offering advice on how to turn etc to students. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #83 March 22, 2005 When I'm up near the tandems and jump run is nearing, I'll usually wait for a moment when their TM isn't adjusting stuff and/or talking to them and include them in the handshake rounds. Otherwise it's probably best to let students be students and intstructors be instructors. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #84 March 22, 2005 Quote Regardless I hope you stick with it and when one day when you have 100 plus jumps we'll both be good enough to make a jump together and have a blast !! Blue Ones ..... I'm beyond that...but I think you meant to reply to superman...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRYANGOESBOOM 0 #85 March 22, 2005 dude me and u have nothing to offer any student jumpers other than the words "ASK YOUR INSTRUCTOR" its cool to say yeah its going to be great and your gona love it................ If the instuctors want them to be sure to do something they will let them know as for the "its a good day to die thing" is it really that big of a deal that it takes your mind off what your sapose to be doing on your jump........................if thats the case u might want to think about why your distracted so easy as far as your post history i would stay away from posting anything negative about anyone just my 2 Not only will you look better, feel better, and fuck better; you'll have significantly increased your life expectancy. --Douva Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCR10480 0 #86 March 22, 2005 but whenever i hear "THIS IS THE END, IT'S ARMAGEDDON", "MY LAST DAY ON EARTH!" Yeah, I know what you mean...but! I just love strapping macho types to my harness. Like others have said in this thread "When the door opens, and the breeze picks up all they want is Mommy". Also, I really have a lot of fun when some burly biker type (you know, tank top and "do rag" clad) asks me if I'm gay as I trace his harness straps. I tend to prance about, and speak (try to) feminine. It's all good man. __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCR10480 0 #87 March 22, 2005 just because i have 3 jumps doesn't mean i have less authority to talk to a new jumper about the experience than a person with 3,000. we were all there at one point and i'm sure we all remember what it felt like. __________________________________________________ I honestly wish I could tap into that sometimes. I'm sure every other T/I on here would like to remember what it felt like on their first jump. And we all get to experiance it for the first time, with every student! __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Breezejunky 0 #88 March 22, 2005 Of course they would love you! You just paid $200+ to do a solo jump! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #89 March 22, 2005 Quotei see it differently JDFGI Go with the eight pound ball. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #90 March 22, 2005 Quotei don't try and teach them technique, i leave that to the pros. Really? Then what's this: Quote i tell them to start good habits now and maintain good altitude awareness and show a good throw when they pull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #91 March 22, 2005 If he's talking like this at 3 jumps, just wait until he's got 30 jumps. Then just imagine what he can teach us. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OrangeJumper 0 #92 March 22, 2005 Why don't guys give the dude a break.....jeeez. I think he's been tormented enough over the last couple of days The Original Cabana Boy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #93 March 22, 2005 The guy brings it on himself, it's not like we made this post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #94 March 22, 2005 QuoteWhy don't guys give the dude a break.....jeeez. I think he's been tormented enough over the last couple of days You're right. At some point we need to stop. But if you don't recognize the potential issues of someone who's already giving fellow students jumping advice at 3 jumps (tandems no less), then imagine what will happen when he's got 50 or 100 jumps. I might as well tell Jim Slaton now that he's been replaced as my canopy control coach as we've got a potential new skygod ready to replace him. And I can't wait for my new coach with 50 jumps to really teach me how I can fly my canopy. Okay ... I think I'm done. If I haven't made my point, then I never will. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ncrowe 0 #95 March 22, 2005 QuoteQuote Regardless I hope you stick with it and when one day when you have 100 plus jumps we'll both be good enough to make a jump together and have a blast !! Blue Ones ..... I'm beyond that...but I think you meant to reply to superman... Umm yes I had a few martinis so I didn't reply directly to his last post but hey maybe one day we can jump together as well "Don't Mess Around With the Guy in Shades- Oh No!!! " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goose491 0 #96 March 22, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhy don't guys give the dude a break.....jeeez. I think he's been tormented enough over the last couple of days You're right. At some point we need to stop. But if you don't recognize the potential issues of someone who's already giving fellow students jumping advice at 3 jumps... [SNIP] "Lighten up Francis" -Stripes Come on dude. Listen to yourself. The "Advice" you're talking about is "Be calm, relax and enjoy the view... and show a good throw (when it applies)" Please guy. He'd be well within his expertise giving this out as 'advice' with no jumps at all! He's not teaching anybody shit! He's not claiming to be anything more special then he is. QuoteOkay ... I think I'm done. If I haven't made my point, then I never will. [looks around the room now that Canuck has left].. he'll be back. I just about guaranteed it. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #97 March 22, 2005 you're funny Goose!!! (see my thread) Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superman0710 0 #98 March 22, 2005 QuoteQuotei don't try and teach them technique, i leave that to the pros. Really? Then what's this: Quote i tell them to start good habits now and maintain good altitude awareness and show a good throw when they pull did i say, i sit them down and teach them to throw? no. i said for them to display a calm confident throw (their instructor will be the one to teach him/her how to throw), not to panic if they have a hard time finding the ripcord. and to reiterate a post i made from page 2: Quoteplus, i don't remember stating how i was such "hot shit" and i've made repeated attempts to clarify that it is not my intention to portray myself in such a manner, so i'd appreciate it if you stopped accusing me of acting of such behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haniel32 0 #99 March 22, 2005 QuoteWhy don't guys give the dude a break.....jeeez. I think he's been tormented enough over the last couple of days Maybe he should just shut his mouth and stop saying stupid shit! then people wouldn't get on him and give him a break!! Sorry to criticize you 3 jump tandem master! Some times you gain more when you just listen, stop acting like you have been in the sport for years! Like someone told you earlier STOP AND THINK BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH! Face first landing YET again! "I thought I flared" Grass tastes great!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conundrum 1 #100 March 22, 2005 I wasn't accusing you of anything, just simply pointing out what you said yourself. Showing someone a 'good throw' is in essence, teaching them something. Quotei said for them to display a calm confident throw (their instructor will be the one to teach him/her how to throw), not to panic if they have a hard time finding the ripcord. No, you said you show them a good throw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
