Slappie 9 #51 March 6, 2005 QuoteShe didn't bash though slappie, she asked. Least thats the way i read it. I understand, I was answering your question not the original posters question. I answered that one in a previous post. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeordieSkydiver 0 #52 March 6, 2005 I don't bash either, anyone, ever. Unless the government is paying me to. (oooh I said 'government" and its not SC)Lee _______________________________ In a world full of people, only some want to fly, is that not crazy? http://www.ukskydiver.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #53 March 6, 2005 I'm sure my post was probaby taken as a defensive post etc. I don't think emma bashed I was tyring to explain why we get offensive LOL even our own media take the "america is a great big brute and is wrong NO MATTER what we do": approach I can't speak for slappie... I was never a great ventriloquist but in my traveling experiences 99 % of the people I speak to are great. but that 1% really try to shout over the restMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeordieSkydiver 0 #54 March 6, 2005 Try being English in anywhere in Europe except the UK.Lee _______________________________ In a world full of people, only some want to fly, is that not crazy? http://www.ukskydiver.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #55 March 6, 2005 QuoteTry being English in anywhere in Europe except the UK. You're in a similar prediciment. Oh and I know no one was bashing anyone. I tend to get defensive when my country and specially when Texas is involved. I'm not a huge fan of flag waving patriotism but I do support my country and state. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysquiffy 0 #56 March 7, 2005 I really don't understand your aggression. I didn't slam the U.S. or the people. I didn't say anything was "right or wrong" so please don't put words in my mouth. I'm trying to understand the desire of MOST people that were born in the U.S. to identify with the countries that their ancestors were from. Why do you take that as an insult or an attack? I have found a lot of the posts to be very informative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #57 March 7, 2005 QuoteI'm trying to understand the desire of MOST people that were born in the U.S. to identify with the countries that their ancestors were from. Quite simply we are taught at a very early age to be proud of who we are and of our heritage. It has been brought up in the thread that the only true americans are native everyone else has roots In Asia, Europe or Africa. I am the third generation to be born in the US. 100% American German. Ancestory is something that helps us idenify with who we are. Ive spent a great deal of time in Europe and As soon as I open my mouth I am asked what part of the states I am from, then the conversation immediately turns to my ancestral history. In short, I would just call it conversation. There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #58 March 7, 2005 Because it's usually other Americans asking me that. It's pretty obvious to tell if someone was born and raised here or not.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #59 March 7, 2005 QuoteAsk a Mexican national and they could say their from America, they're in Central America.. Mexico is not in Central America. It is in North America. As for calling ourselves Americans or breaking it down into heritage, this is an joke that I used to get into with my Mexican roommate in college. Everytime I called myself an American, she was like, "So am I. I too am from North America." It is just too hard to say United Statians. I only give my heritage if someone specifically asks. It is the same thing where people say Italian-American or Polish-American or African-American. In my opinion, if you are born here, then you are plain American unless you have dual citzenship somewhere else. Hypenating is dumb. Plus, I just don't feel like saying I am Ukranian-Polish-German-British-American. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysquiffy 0 #60 March 7, 2005 QuoteIt's pretty obvious to tell if someone was born and raised here or not. How? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #61 March 7, 2005 Quote How? I have not met many people outside of the US who have a Chicago accent. The same goes with southern accents. Yes, there is the very rare exception. However, if someone with a Chicago accent asks me what my nationality is, it's safe to assume they don't mean what country I was born in.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #62 March 7, 2005 how about the areas around NYC? same thing there. Funny you mention this since i was told today by someone from boston that I have a chicago accent Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysquiffy 0 #63 March 7, 2005 It's a little risky to make assumptions about where someone was born (or raised). I've got a pretty distinct English accent, but it's changed since I've lived over here and my language contains American slang. I've had southerners ask if I'm from the East coast. Many people ask if I'm Australian. Anyway, what prompted this question initially was a written question in this forum. Of course you can't hear accents here and there are many international members. I've had people tell me they're English when they discover I am. When I ask where they were born, it's been somewhere in the U.S.. In my fairly well travelled experience, this is unique to this country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites