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You jump out of Deland, right? I am probably going to be headed down there in not too long to get some tunnel time in FL, etc... Can't wait to meet you in person.



Don't count on it. She dissed me when I went down to the tunnel and I know her!:P

You have to be very special to meet the Mama.;)

Just teasing you Andrea.:)
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Hey, I know how to get 'er - I can watch the kids. Have experience and will work for tunnel time. That might do it, right Andrea?

"The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment
of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky

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you'll be happy to know that you can join the "Waaaaaaa, Skymama dissed me" club that Clay and Muenkel have formed. :ph34r:



ooh ooh! i'm in the 'i dissed skymama' club...:o
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Hey there Lisa (and Andrea)-

Just looked:

1,650 views to this thread
100 replies to this thread
150 or so replies to the survey

And very little carnage - even though it was a question about religion? Oh, some very minor friction perhaps - but with that may views and posts you'd think it would have blown up by now.

See boys and girls can play together nice and express their thoughts about religion and God too! :)

"The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment
of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky

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Hey there Lisa (and Andrea)-

Just looked:

1,650 views to this thread
100 replies to this thread
150 or so replies to the survey

And very little carnage - even though it was a question about religion? Oh, some very minor friction perhaps - but with that may views and posts you'd think it would have blown up by now.

See boys and girls can play together nice and express their thoughts about religion and God too! :)



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I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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I believe I'm the only buddhist here. How kool is that? B| B| B|



AerOhio has the world's only Ahmish Skydiver, as far I know anyway, that may have changed recently, but I do not think so.

You like my disclaimer?:ph34r:



Is that for real? Do you know his name? Wow, if someone is really from the Amish faith, what does their flight suit look like.

I have seen pins holding together clothes as an expression of "plainness." Don't know about you, but that gives new meaning to a hard opening to me -

(Okay, okay, it is probably not a super-plain Amishman that is jumping - )

"The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment
of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky

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I believe in universal balance and that the key lies in Energy and the Laws of Energy Conservation. Whatever level a person takes that to with the Scientific Law that Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transformed and the Expanding Universe Theory says that we are just continuing to expand ... so is energy just drifting in time as the universe expands infinitely or will the universe contract making it a finite system which will bring all of the energy back closer together? Or does the energy of the universe just recycle itself fully and in it's most efficient state?

...

I do believe that there is a lot we still don't know or understand about Energy or it's wide range of characteristics.



Wow. I agree. That is pretty much what I have come to the realize over the years. We are all 'energy", and energy is neither created nor destroyed...so when we leave our bodies (which only act as "vessels" here on earth), we are still "alive" in a sense. We are still energy and can still be "felt" by others. That is why supossedly when people who have passed away feel a need to "communicate", people supposedly see lights turn on/off, phones ring/TV & computers can turn on/off, etc.

Interesting.

Energy.

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Hey there Lisa (and Andrea)-

Just looked:

1,650 views to this thread
100 replies to this thread
150 or so replies to the survey

And very little carnage - even though it was a question about religion? Oh, some very minor friction perhaps - but with that may views and posts you'd think it would have blown up by now.

See boys and girls can play together nice and express their thoughts about religion and God too! :)



See my Sig line!:)



Whoa there, Clint. Let's get you back on your horse...

"The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment
of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky

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Let me get this straight. If you dissed Mama, and Mama dissed Clay and I, does that mean you in effect dissed me also?

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Dude, sounds like you were double-dissed!



It could be worse. If anyone dissed Zennister, then I have been triple dissed!:o

Chris



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Is that for real? Do you know his name? Wow, if someone is really from the Amish faith, what does their flight suit look like.

I have seen pins holding together clothes as an expression of "plainness." Don't know about you, but that gives new meaning to a hard opening to me -

(Okay, okay, it is probably not a super-plain Amishman that is jumping - )





Actually yes this is true and we fly an Ahmish skydiving flag when he is there. WE call him Blink.

The Ahmish allow there children to leave for a while and come back, to see what is out there and usually they do. They like their life better. But Blink went skydiving while he was out there (as I understand it) and he never left the dropzone. SO now many years later, he is the only Ahmish skydiver. Very true. I probably have some of the details skewed but this was how I heard it and I asked him if he was really ahmish and yep, he is. Pertty funny if you ask me:D.

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This subject came up in another thread - but was not the focus

So, what do you think about this? Figured it's a good question since we all risk death -



I believe for every drop of rain that falls
A flower grows,
I believe that somewhere in the darkest night
A candle glows.

I believe for everyone who goes astray
Someone will come to show the way.
I believe,
Oh, I believe.

I believe above the storm
The smallest prayer, will still be heard.
I believe that someone in that great somewhere
Hears every word

Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf
Or see the sky,
Then I know why I believe.

Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf
Or see the sky,
Then I know why I believe.

Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money.

Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them?

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This subject came up in another thread - but was not the focus

So, what do you think about this? Figured it's a good question since we all risk death -



I believe for every drop of rain that falls
A flower grows,
I believe that somewhere in the darkest night
A candle glows.

I believe for everyone who goes astray
Someone will come to show the way.
I believe,
Oh, I believe.

I believe above the storm
The smallest prayer, will still be heard.
I believe that someone in that great somewhere
Hears every word

Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf
Or see the sky,
Then I know why I believe.

Every time I hear a newborn baby cry,
Or touch a leaf
Or see the sky,
Then I know why I believe.



Had to sing this in school - a LOT -

"The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment
of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky

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If that happens, you'll be happy to know that you can join the "Waaaaaaa, Skymama dissed me" club that Clay and Muenkel have formed



:D:DI'm not in that club. In fact, Andrea is going out of her way to meet up with me while I'm out in Florida. And I even got to go climbing with Andrea will out in Eloy.

BTW LuvToFly, you may want to check on the reply numbers to this thread. Some of them haven't had any thing to do with what you wanted to discuss. It's called "hijacking"
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

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If that happens, you'll be happy to know that you can join the "Waaaaaaa, Skymama dissed me" club that Clay and Muenkel have formed



:D:DI'm not in that club. In fact, Andrea is going out of her way to meet up with me while I'm out in Florida. And I even got to go climbing with Andrea will out in Eloy.

BTW LuvToFly, you may want to check on the reply numbers to this thread. Some of them haven't had any thing to do with what you wanted to discuss. It's called "hijacking"



Hey, it's everybody's discussion - just my poll -

"The helicopter approaches closer than any other to fulfillment
of mankind's ancient dreams of a magic carpet" - Igor Sikorsky

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are we still in highschool?



Gotta wonder sometimes...



Point proven. You did it to your own post:D
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May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

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I should've used word atheist and not atheism.

However you are not right about that claim / denial part.

So-called strong atheists believe there are no gods, and that means they say gods don't exist.
Some even clearly say that it's impossible that gods would exist.

I know there are weak atheists that are closer to agnostics as they are only sceptical about gods but 'cos both call themselves atheists, I don't want myself to be mistaken for them.



I disagree. I can call myself an atheist and that doesn't mean I am STATING or INSISTING that god doesn't exist. It is simply my belief that he does not. This is the same as a person believing in god saying, "God exists." Would you say that this person -- although he surely cannot prove god does exist -- is "denying" the possibility that god does not exist? Of course he's not. Belief in the existence or the nonexistence of god are on opposite sides of the middle. Neither really claims to "know" the truth. It's just a statement of what one believes is the truth.

Yes, some people get arrogant and insistent that they are sure. The truth is, they can't be sure, now can they? That kind of person is not the kind to engage in this sort of discussion because he will never yield to possibilities other than his own beliefs.

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