christoofar 0 #1 February 10, 2005 Went to interview for a tech company in Wayne, PA, a suburb of Philadelphia. Job clears $15,000 more than I am making now in base salary (I get stipends from my company every now and then). They wanted to hire me same-day but I told them I would make a decision after I got a formal offer letter in writing. So.... I already make plenty now, have 10 years experience in my field, been on tons of programming projects from mainframes to PCs, dealing with insurance, healthcare and government. This firm seems... well desperate to hire me, which makes me think I could probably negotiate for more. Do any of you think that's wise? Should I just shut up and take it? The company is looking for someone with my level of expertise, they don't want to deal with an H1-B visa applicant (Indian), and is willing to pull 70+hrs a week and work 90% on site and 10% at home. Seems fair enough. Thoughts? ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #2 February 10, 2005 Dont get greedyMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #3 February 10, 2005 Geez - don't ask for more money, ask for a normal 45 hour workweek. Congrats, by the way!! Feels good to be wanted, doesn't it? you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #4 February 10, 2005 QuoteGeez - don't ask for more money, ask for a normal 45 hour workweek. Congrats, by the way!! Feels good to be wanted, doesn't it? Yes it does. I actually LOVE who I work for right now, but they can't give me the programming work I want to do anymore... so I am doing other advanced tasks for them, which is why I moved to Philadelphia. This job offers me a almost total control over the (hiring) company's software, and it's not just another "write this app for us" or "fix this code," it's re-engineering all the software they've ever written. VERY tantalizing work.. I love projects like that. It's like being an engineer being asked to make minor changes to a bridge and working as an underling in some obscure department... or having someone come to you and tell you "design and build me an amazing suspension bridge." Which one looks better on your resume? So hard to decide... ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #5 February 10, 2005 QuoteWent to interview for a tech company in Wayne, PA, a suburb of Philadelphia. Job clears $15,000 more than I am making now in base salary (I get stipends from my company every now and then). They wanted to hire me same-day but I told them I would make a decision after I got a formal offer letter in writing. So.... I already make plenty now, have 10 years experience in my field, been on tons of programming projects from mainframes to PCs, dealing with insurance, healthcare and government. This firm seems... well desperate to hire me, which makes me think I could probably negotiate for more. Do any of you think that's wise? Should I just shut up and take it? The company is looking for someone with my level of expertise, they don't want to deal with an H1-B visa applicant (Indian), and is willing to pull 70+hrs a week and work 90% on site and 10% at home. Seems fair enough. Thoughts? 70 hours a week. Good Lord. I am glad I found my this job. 70 hours a week would kill me.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanduh 0 #6 February 10, 2005 Depends on who the company is. I would definately see what you can get out of them. I know this field pretty well...You can get more. Even if it is a couple thousand. If it is an opening you are really DEPENDANT upon, then don't push it. You already are employeed....so go for it! ...sorry..just my two cents hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #7 February 10, 2005 WAY too many hours!!! I have a great paying job doing exactly what I want as a Sr. UNIX administrator with similar time in the field as you. I dont know what they are offering you but if its 70+ hours a week it BETTER be well above 6 figures. I'm up there and I work 40 hours per week mostly. You want your life to be nothing but computers? Bleah!__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #8 February 10, 2005 Hi CTF 70 hr's Your doing the work of two people But if you doing something you like Your call. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #9 February 10, 2005 Hell there's no way I could do 70 hours a week. I'm supposed be doing 40 right now, and I can barely do that. and I actually like my job. I just hate working.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #10 February 10, 2005 Yeah... I guess the hours are a bit much for that pay. Maybe I'm bein sucker punched? It's hard to move positions in I/T jobs, you almost have to threaten to quit to get a promotion unless you are really low and don't do any critical functions (i.e. helpdesk). ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobsled92 0 #11 February 11, 2005 Sounds like a good deal. EXPENSIVE area. I used to live there. RIght near the Overbrook Country Club. Nice to hear an offer with a leg UP these days_______________________________ If I could be a Super Hero, I chose to be: "GRANT-A-CLAUS". and work 365 days a Year. http://www.hangout.no/speednews/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweak 0 #12 February 11, 2005 I work in IT as well, if it seems fair to you I'd take it. But if it's their initial offer, they are probably expecting you to ask for more. They usually offer less that they are willing to pay. Is this a salaried gig? If so, I would expect more than the usual going rate for the position you are going for. If the number of hours you're going to be working (70+) is going to be a long term thing, I'd expect nearly double the pay that I'd get for a strictly 40 hr. work week. But that's typical thinking for me since I'm a contractor and I get paid by the hour and wouldn't be to happy working 50, 60 or 70 hours a week and getting paid what most people doing the same kind of work get paid for only working 40 hrs. As for companies not wanting visa workers, that seems to be a rapidly growing trend in IT shops nowdays. Congrats on the offer and good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #13 February 11, 2005 Quotethat seems to be a rapidly growing trend in IT shops nowdays. Damn nice to hear. (No offense to the Canuks.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites