Darius11 12 #1 February 9, 2005 A friend and me are having an argument. I said that Humans do not have the enzymes to turn vegetables to sugars. We do get vitamins, minerals, and fiber from them, but unlike cows and other herbivores we do not have the enzymes needed to turn vegetables to sugars. She says we can Who is right?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dougiefresh 0 #2 February 9, 2005 Humans don't have the enzymes to break down cellulose, which is the main structural sugar in many plants. Cows and other herbivores do have cellulase, the enzyme to break down cellulose. Cellulose is the "fiber" we get from vegetables. edit: I'm dumb.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #3 February 9, 2005 So is that why people don't chew their corn?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 February 9, 2005 You can get some carbs (sugars) from veggies...but you can't "process" the cellulose in them...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KolinskyDC 0 #5 February 9, 2005 • amylase – breaks down carbohydrates, starches, and sugars which are prevalent in potatoes, fruits, vegetables, and many snack foods "May the best of your past be the worst of your future" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #6 February 9, 2005 Cellulose is a protein? that being said, you can diggest the sugars, some proteins, startches (less well) and fats in vegetables just fine, otherwise, people eating only vegies would die off pretty quick! lolRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #7 February 9, 2005 QuoteHumans don't have the enzymes to break down cellulose, which is the main protein in many plants. Cows and other herbivores do have cellulase, the enzyme to break down cellulose. Cellulose is the "fiber" we get from vegetables. Cellulose is a sugar. It is a fiber. And no, we cannot break it down. BREAK IT DOWN NOW!! Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 February 9, 2005 My understanding is that yall are both right. We all have the enzymes but to varying degrees. Some folks have a shortage and some have a little more. Eitherway, we do as a whole tend to have the ability to break down veggies into sugar; however, it is a very small amount, especially when compared to other animals.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #9 February 9, 2005 QuoteMy understanding is that yall are both right. We all have the enzymes but to varying degrees. Some folks have a shortage and some have a little more. Eitherway, we do as a whole tend to have the ability to break down veggies into sugar; however, it is a very small amount, especially when compared to other animals. We cannot process most sugars (because most of it is from insoluble fiber) in plants. That is why their carb count is so low. "According to the American Association of Cereal Chemists, "dietary fiber" is defined as the edible parts of plants or analogous carbohydrates that are resistant to digestion and absorption in the human small intestine and that are completely or partially fermented in the large intestine."Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 February 9, 2005 QuoteWe cannot process most sugars (because most of it is from insoluble fiber) in plants. That is why their carb count is so low. That's what I was saying, but we can still process a little bit.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KolinskyDC 0 #11 February 9, 2005 QuoteMy understanding is that yall are both right. We all have the enzymes but to varying degrees. Some folks have a shortage and some have a little more. Eitherway, we do as a whole tend to have the ability to break down veggies into sugar; however, it is a very small amount, especially when compared to other animals. but that does not make us both right, he is saying that we can't at all. I know we can. Also if you eat raw veggies, the enzymes required to break them down is actually contained in the vegetable. When we cook them we destroy these enzymes and our body has to make them, putting extra stress on the enzyme producing organs. "May the best of your past be the worst of your future" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #12 February 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteWe cannot process most sugars (because most of it is from insoluble fiber) in plants. That is why their carb count is so low. That's what I was saying, but we can still process a little bit. Yeah, I was just expanding Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KolinskyDC 0 #13 February 9, 2005 QuoteThat is why their carb count is so low. But they still do have carbs, which are broken down into simple sugars for energy, which is why you can eat so much of them. ] "May the best of your past be the worst of your future" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 February 9, 2005 QuoteYeah, I was just expanding Ahhhhh...ok. Call me capt obvious. I misunderstood thinking that you misunderstood, spinning me into a whole 'nother dimintion of confused I hadn't been to in a while.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #15 February 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteThat is why their carb count is so low. But they still do have carbs, which are broken down into simple sugars for energy, which is why you can eat so much of them. ] I know. You are correct in this argument. We can break some down. Not celluose but other sugars in them.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,006 #16 February 9, 2005 He is likely referring to our inability to break down cellulose. Many insects and a few herbivores do have this capability; they secrete cellulase, which can break down the stuff. We don't, and must make do with amylase, protease etc which allow us to break down other parts of the vegetable (sugars, starches.) However, there's a lot more to vegetables than cellulose, and cellulose does other good things for us like providing a fiber source to remove fats and toxins from our GI tract. Its indigestibility is actually a good thing for our overall health (if we eat vegetables, that is.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #17 February 9, 2005 Thanks Bill she is very happy now. She just heard her fav. words I was wrong.She is rightI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 February 9, 2005 Was this an argument with your GF? You should have known the answer the minute the arguement started!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #19 February 9, 2005 If I didn't know any better, I'd think you were arguing with me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #20 February 9, 2005 Quote (if we eat vegetables, that is.) Ahh, so that is the key... hmmm... I was hoping cold cucumber slices on my eyes counted... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #21 February 9, 2005 Was this an argument with your GF? Quote no she has high standards and wont date me. and Kelly it was kind of like that only she didn't call me a dumass.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dougiefresh 0 #22 February 9, 2005 You weren't totally wrong. Don't take any shit.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelel01 1 #23 February 9, 2005 I don't remember calling you a dumbass, but I have no doubt that I probably did. Edit: not because you're a dumbass, but because I'm a bitchy, sore winner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #24 February 9, 2005 QuoteThanks Bill she is very happy now. She just heard her fav. words I was wrong.She is right Smart man!! LOLMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jumper03 0 #25 February 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteThanks Bill she is very happy now. She just heard her fav. words I was wrong.She is right Smart man!! LOL two most important words you can use when you get married.... Yes Dear.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Dougiefresh 0 #22 February 9, 2005 You weren't totally wrong. Don't take any shit.Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #23 February 9, 2005 I don't remember calling you a dumbass, but I have no doubt that I probably did. Edit: not because you're a dumbass, but because I'm a bitchy, sore winner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #24 February 9, 2005 QuoteThanks Bill she is very happy now. She just heard her fav. words I was wrong.She is right Smart man!! LOLMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #25 February 9, 2005 QuoteQuoteThanks Bill she is very happy now. She just heard her fav. words I was wrong.She is right Smart man!! LOL two most important words you can use when you get married.... Yes Dear.Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites