Slappie 9 #1 January 27, 2005 Microsoft say no key no update Quote Aiming to crack down on counterfeit software, Microsoft plans later this year to require customers to verify that their copy of Windows is genuine before downloading security patches and other add-ons to the operating system. Since last fall the company has been testing a tool that can check whether a particular version of Windows is legitimate, but until now the checks have been voluntary. Starting Feb. 7, the verification will be mandatory for many downloads for people in three countries: China, Norway and the Czech Republic. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #2 January 27, 2005 pffffffff! who needs a windows update as long as they are full of bugs anyway? and btw: if i need an update i'll get a copied one The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #3 January 27, 2005 /. discussion here: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/26/1316230&tid=172&tid=109&tid=201&tid=1 Best idea here: http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=137347&cid=11480619 In actuality, I can see the reason for this, but don't understand letting automatic updates stand. It is getting to a poitn where buying a copy of windows is worth avoiding the hassle.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildcard451 0 #4 January 27, 2005 crap.......looks like I am headed to Linux after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #5 January 27, 2005 Yay, more geek talk!! ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #6 January 27, 2005 QuoteMicrosoft say no key no update *** Aiming to crack down on counterfeit software, Microsoft plans later this year to require customers to verify that their copy of Windows is genuine before downloading security patches and other add-ons to the operating system. Ahh. Another reason I feel good about my decision to get a G5 iMac. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #7 January 27, 2005 I solved the issue by buying a mac. I have a legit copy of windows on my home pc and my laptop, and I've found the updates cause more problems than they solve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #8 January 27, 2005 BAH!!!, like "original" registration keys are hard to find. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,029 #9 January 27, 2005 >like "original" registration keys are hard to find. Problem is, if you can find them on the net so can Microsoft - and they will be the ones that the new upgrades won't accept. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #10 January 27, 2005 Actually I think MicroSoft said that if you have a pirated copy and it is set up for automatic actulisation you do not need a key. As they are worried about people with pirated versions of thier product not being able to update security fixes thus propogating viruses through badly protected systems. Now in Spain we have a strange situation the government decided to put a hefty cannon (which goes to the copy right assosiation) on all virgin cd's an dvd's so I now feel that after paying the cannon I have the right to legaly use anything I download on to a CD or DVD using P2P including MicroSoft products Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #11 January 27, 2005 Quote>like "original" registration keys are hard to find. Problem is, if you can find them on the net so can Microsoft - and they will be the ones that the new upgrades won't accept. I'll take the 5th on this one __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #12 January 27, 2005 Quote>like "original" registration keys are hard to find. Problem is, if you can find them on the net so can Microsoft - and they will be the ones that the new upgrades won't accept. not that simple... They have a DB of all the serials they sold.... so the now pirated... and possibly even the "generated" original serials may not work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx 1 #13 January 28, 2005 Buy a Mac NOW!! Just my humble opinion.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,029 #14 January 28, 2005 >They have a DB of all the serials they sold.... so the now pirated... >and possibly even the "generated" original serials may not work. That's my point. The upgrade can contain a table of serial #'s they consider pirated, or an algorithm that determines whether the SN is a generated one or an original one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #15 January 28, 2005 Yeah, we ran into this issue years ago at work. We were running XP when it first came out and they were pretty free and loose with the reg key with anyone in IT. Someone along the way put it out there on the Net as a valid key. MS contacted us telling us that in SP1 they had changed it so it would'nt install if it was reading one of the now bad numbers. They reissued us a new corp reg number for free. We had to do reg hacks via a login script to change the numbers on everything (with a lot of free help from MS). Sure enough I forgot to do the update to one of my spare test platforms at work, tried to install the SP and it would'nt let me. MS also changed the serial Gen code so that when the SP installed it altered some of the reg numbers and prevented some other 's that the original key gens made useless. MS is smarter then a lot of geeks give them credit for.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #16 January 28, 2005 QuoteMS is smarter then a lot of geeks give them credit for. MS is sneakier than a lot of geeks give them credit for. This is only an issue now that that they rule the O/S market. Piracy has helped market so much for windows and even more so for office that it would be hard to calculate the amounts. By creating a prevalent environment everyone must develop and and support. As soon as they changed SP1, mr dude released one hell of an app that gives you a list of keys and invokes a piece of integral windows code that lets you change the install key. Of course, that is for unactivated copies, but that is what most pirated ones are, unactivated corporate copies. What I expect to really happen is a new enterprising market in security updates. An IT professional with access, downloads the updates in executable form, they way we used to, and then distributes them. The only way to break that idea would be create a limited install based on the activation key in the product. Then that is open to reverse engineering if it is contained in the code, and I doubt they could implement it. So.....as always I expect the work around to take no more than 2 weeks TOPS.-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #17 January 28, 2005 Help a non-computer-geek out: I have Windows XP. It is legit. I have my system setup to automatically install updates. Does this cause a problem? Chris _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedMonster 0 #18 January 28, 2005 QuoteHelp a non-computer-geek out: I have Windows XP. It is legit. I have my system setup to automatically install updates. Does this cause a problem?Nope you have no problems at all... carry on your merry way. Microsoft loves you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
btucker 0 #19 January 28, 2005 I spend my money on jumping not waste it on operating systems, where there are free alternatives! http://fedora.redhat.com/ ta for posting the link, my gf has a doz box it might have a shady past... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #21 January 28, 2005 uhoh. Well i guess no more security updates for me. this is not fair. I either have to sneak around with my "special" copy of Win XP to get updates, or I have to go back to my legit copy of shitty, buggy Win ME. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #22 January 28, 2005 Quote boy you're a nosy little fucker aren't you Yes...if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #23 January 28, 2005 QuoteQuote>like "original" registration keys are hard to find. Problem is, if you can find them on the net so can Microsoft - and they will be the ones that the new upgrades won't accept. not that simple... They have a DB of all the serials they sold.... so the now pirated... and possibly even the "generated" original serials may not work. This issue hurts us gamers too. The key generators have filled the inet with game keys. Now when a game buyer buys a copy and installs. Then goes to try and join an online game.. BAM! They can't because their lawfully bought key is ALREADY in use. As far as M$ wanting everyone to have a legit copy. I could careless anymore. I'm not into warez like I was. So as far as it doesn't effect me I couldn't give a rats ass. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
