boinky 0 #1 January 10, 2005 So...I'm out at my DZ yesterday, for the first time this year. We have to fill out new waivers every January. As I'm doing this, I hear someone yell, "Reserve ride...." Of course, we all dash out there to watch the carnage. I look up and see two canopies and think, "Well unless someone top docked the reserve (only a CRWdog would think of this, huh?), that person still has both canopies attached. I run off to get my new digital camera. I get back and snap a picture of him in the air. I then watch him make a spectacular stand up landing, complete with a left hand pattern and everything, and snap another picture (see attachments). So....I go up and do my own solo jump. I open around 8K, snap a few pictures from the air with the new camera, and tuck it back into my shirt at around 4K. I come in for landing, hold a bit too long to flare and end up sliding in on my knees. Damn...I take my rig in to let a packer pack it because it's a pain in the butt to pack and I have enough stress in my life right now. I'm sitting there eating a nice healthy lunch when all of the sudden, I hear this awful noise like something hitting something. I look up just in time to watch a guy, under canopy (sort of), hit the tarmac, bounce probably 10 feet off the ground, try to do something with the canopy to fly it, but then hit the tarmac again. He hit so hard the first time, it knocked one of his shoes off. NO SHIT!!! I don't know the extent of his injuries now, but I heard it was a minimum of a shattered ankle. If that's all, I'll be impressed. They say it wasn't anything he hit that made that noise, but him when he hit the tarmac. OUCHIE!!!! After that, I decided that 3 boo-boos in 3 hours were a warning sign and "Yup! It's definitely time to go home." I went to go play Texas Hold 'Em instead. I figured I couldn't get hurt doing that. Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 January 10, 2005 Yeah . . . that two canopies out thing was way weird. It started as a side-by-side, downplaned for a second or two, then went to a bi-plane. I think he was fighting with it or something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #3 January 10, 2005 QuoteI take my rig in to let a packer pack it because it's a pain in the butt to pack and I have enough stress in my life right now. You're a crew dog, right? I've never seen a crew dog worry that much about packing. Fold, fold, fold, strappy thing around the canopy, close the container, and stuff in anything still hanging out. What's so stressful about that? QuoteI hear this awful noise like something hitting something. Know exactly what you mean.Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #4 January 10, 2005 QuoteYou're a crew dog, right? I've never seen a crew dog worry that much about packing. Fold, fold, fold, strappy thing around the canopy, close the container, and stuff in anything still hanging out. What's so stressful about that? Ahhhh, very observant young man. I AM a CRWdog. But I couldn't find any victims to do CRW with. So, sadly, I was using a non-CRW canopy. I like your description of how we pack. It's not quite that simple, but pretty close. I love packing my Lightning. It's pretty silly, but rumor has it you can't pack any other canopy that way. Hmmm...what's the worst that can happen? After the bone-jarring openings I have on my Lightning, I just laugh at people who say they have a "hard-opening" on THEIR mains. Quote ------------------------------------------------------------ In Reply To ------------------------------------------------------------ I hear this awful noise like something hitting something. ------------------------------------------------------------ Know exactly what you mean. Have you bounced before? Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #5 January 10, 2005 Whoah I saw one yesterday! I thought it was someone doing a Biplane or something and couldnt think of who it could be and they started getting lower to the ground and I was like ... ummm why are they still together then I realize... oh its only one person!If life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #6 January 10, 2005 Another one, huh? Did they land it too? Must've been one of those days. Sorry it was them, but glad it wasn't me. He did a really NICE job landing it, though.Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #7 January 10, 2005 He was ok, he said he had worse landings. The scarey part about it is how it happend! His main had a line over on both ends of the canopy and so he was taught the two handed method of pulling your emergency handles. He had one hand on his cut away handle and one on his reserve and he went to fast that he missed his cutaway and ended up with just the reserve handle! I was doing 4 way with my team on that jump and had video and she happend to see him in time and got video and stills of him! Not posted on the internet just yet.If life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #8 January 11, 2005 QuoteI hear this awful noise like something hitting something. Know exactly what you mean. Yup, you never quite can get that sound out of your head. Have heard it too many times._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #9 January 11, 2005 that's why Perris teaches a two handed cutaway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #10 January 11, 2005 Quotethat's why Perris teaches a two handed cutaway. __________________ Why?If life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #11 January 11, 2005 so you don't accidentally pull your reserve before your cutaway. If both your hands are pulling your cutaway and you're trained to reach for red first, you can't accidentally pull your handles out of order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #12 January 11, 2005 I do the one hand on each handle and have had at least three cut aways. What I tell students is that it doesn't matter what way you are going to do the cut away, two hands on each handle, or the single hands on each handle, just practice and practice and practice. It's all in the muscle memory. Personally I like the one hand on each handle method, cause once I cut away, I want my hand already on the cut way handle. I really don't want to be back in free fall after a good spinning malfunction looking for that handle on the left.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #13 January 11, 2005 I like both hands on the cutaway then the reserve. Not only because of how i was taught but also b/c of incidents like the following above. He missed his cutaway handle and pulled the reserve. The cutaway handle never came off his rig it was still velcrode in. Plus i have hear of many stories where people couldnt get there handle out so if you have two hands on it, its a sure shot "i hope"If life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #14 January 11, 2005 different philosophies, I guess. I think the instructor at Perris was more concerned about students panicking and pulling both handles at once or in the wrong order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #15 January 11, 2005 agreed If life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #16 January 11, 2005 But I'm way off student status now. Yes, different views, and I'll stick with what my muscle memory is. IMO, if an experience jumper can't figure out what handle to pull first, then.............well what can I say?May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #17 January 11, 2005 Well they guy im talking about was a very experianced jumper .. in fact you probably know him if you have ever jumped at Carolina Sky Sports. I guess that's why they call it an "accident"... I seem to only get those when Im in a carIf life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #18 January 11, 2005 Sweet PIC! I did that once......didn't stand up just for safety though. Just slid it in and sat there saying "WTF was that?!?!?!?!" for a couple minutes. I'll probably remember that day for the rest of my life. Neil Beverly came across the runway in his van to pick me up. My free bag/PC was snatched by some asshole kid down the road. Skymonkeyone had to fill out the report. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #19 January 11, 2005 QuoteSweet PIC! Thank you! I was sort of proud of it myself. I think I'm the only one who managed to get any shots of it. Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherGoodin 0 #20 January 17, 2005 Here is that pic I was talking about! Karen Wood shot the footage and took stills... You can also visit her web site at: Karenwood.hookturn.comIf life gives you lemons then make lemonade, if not then go thirsty and keep on truckin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #21 January 17, 2005 SWEET!!! But are you SURE you're not just trying to foist off a good side by side CRW picture to further our cause? Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #22 January 17, 2005 We had a student about 2 years ago probably that broke his hard deck and lost track of altitude. He pulled when his cypres fired but never realized he had 2 canopies out. At about 50-100 feet he attempted to turn and split the canopies resulting in a downplane configuration. He was lucky to have landed in a freshly plowed field. He broke his hip and had some bumps and bruises. 2 canopies out with students is some scary shit to see<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #23 January 17, 2005 Wow . . . how do you not notice two canopies out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #24 January 17, 2005 If he didn't notice he had 2 canopies out until he turned, I think this might fall under the "You might want to find another sport to do" category. What happened to the "count 4 seconds and then check the three S's" part of his skydiving lesson? I'm glad he survived. Does he still jump?Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #25 January 18, 2005 QuoteWow . . . how do you not notice two canopies out? Looks like a Big ass canopy with a weird color pattern R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites