Canopy pack volume

[fogobo 0]

I am about to buy a Pilot 168 and want to get a true idea of what its' actual pack volume is. There are no other Pilot canopies around to check and I don't trust the numbers you get from the manufacturers. What other canopy has the nearest pack volume to a Pilot 168.

[JohnRich 4]

What's the advertised pack volume?
What's the pack volume of your container?

[fogobo 0]

Only did a brief search for the pack volume numbers. I want the exact volume compared to another canopy so I can have a container made without sending them my canopy.

[fogobo 0]

Found the volume in the packing manual. 416 cu. in.

[darkwing 5]

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Found the volume in the packing manual. 416 cu. in.

+/- 10%

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[mjosparky 4]

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and I don't trust the numbers you get from the manufacturers.

You don't trust them to measure the size of the canopy but you will trust your life jumping a canopy made by the same people.

Sparky

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[Slurp56 0]

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and I don't trust the numbers you get from the manufacturers.

You don't trust them to measure the size of the canopy but you will trust your life jumping a canopy made by the same people.

Sparky

Different manufacturers have different ways of measuring size and volume. Have a gander through your most recent paragear catalog at the canopy volume chart located near the back. You will find that sizes and volumes vary wildly. Unless Aerodyne has recently changed their method of measuring, I would guess that you'll find a Pilot 168 to pack up more closely to a Sabre/Safire/Fusion 190.

It could also be suggested that which container you are going to put it in will also affect the fit, as not all containers manufacturers have the same volume container that fits a 170 or 190.

To agree with the OP, I dont really trust published numbers either and prefer to pack a demo before droppping a chunk of change on something that may or may not fit

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[erdnarob 1]

I checked into the Paragear catalog and there is nothing on the Pilot about the packing volume. But similar canopies have the following volume : Icarus Safire 169 has 452 cu. in.; Sabre 170 has 451 cu.in.
Since Aerodyne gives you the choice if you buy your Pilot 168 with HMA lines it will pack a bit smaller than with Spectra lines .

The best way is to ask your container manufacturer's. He knows the volume compatibility. Good luck.

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[ZigZagMarquis 9]

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and I don't trust the numbers you get from the manufacturers.

You don't trust them to measure the size of the canopy but you will trust your life jumping a canopy made by the same people.

Sparky

Okay, smart-assed remark noted, Sparky, but consider cutting the guy some slack. You of all people should know that their are different methods to measure pack volume and different mfgr's use different methods... all in all its a black art.

[erdnarob 1]

The PIA has a standard method. In the Paragear catalog it corresponds to the lighter type writing.

Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all.

[ZigZagMarquis 9]

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The PIA has a standard method. In the Paragear catalog it corresponds to the lighter type writing.

Yeah, that's nice. My point is, the "standard" ain't standard. So, it shouldn't be surprizing that their is much confusion when it comes to "pack volume" and who to believe... the PIA... Para Gear's numbers... the mfgr's numbers... what someone said on dropzone.com... what the cool skygod dude at the DZ says... Reliable information on pack volume has gotten terribly inconsistent over the past few years IMO. That is all.