turtlespeed 226 #1 December 28, 2004 I have an opportunity to purchase a car almost exactly like this - the question is - do you think it is worth the price. The dealership would only give them 5500 for it - so they asked me if I wanted to buy it for 5500. 109000 miles, 99, great condition.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 December 28, 2004 www.kbb.comYesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #3 December 28, 2004 Are you applying for a job as a pimp? Um, I probably wouldn't buy it strictly because of the number of miles on it. Once a car hits 100 grand, I get rid of it (or shortly thereafter). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #4 December 28, 2004 Thanks Erk. I've been meaning to go find that website for a few weeks now. Yay. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyhi 24 #5 December 28, 2004 Quote1999 Cadillac Seville STS Won't you get tired of cops stopping you and asking if your dad knows you have the car?Shit happens. And it usually happens because of physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #6 December 28, 2004 I'd get it thoroughly checked out by a good mechanic because of the mileage. But if that checks out, and there's no rust through, that's a great deal. Even if it needed a new paint job and some touch up body work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lemonjelly 0 #7 December 28, 2004 Once a car hits 100 grand, I get rid of it (or shortly thereafter). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ yup, but some others come into their own whe they reach this________________________________************************************************* RED LIGHTS & OFF LANDINGS ARE JUST MY THANG http://www.redlightrob.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #8 December 28, 2004 Very few door dings and such - everything that can be replaced, was replaced prior to the warranty lapsing. I can pick up another warranty for about 100/month. I guess it boils down to image. Do I want to be seen owning a caddy? Does this mean I have to buy plaid shorts and move to florida during the winter?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #9 December 28, 2004 Dude...you don't have to drive it like an old man. 4.2 liter, V8...those babies cook. It'll kill your gas budget though. Screw the plaid shorts, just get yourself one of these... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #10 December 28, 2004 It does drive nice - Now here's the kicker - It's my grandparents car. I just don't know if I could ride around proudly in "The Grandparents Car"I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #11 December 28, 2004 Unless you put 22" dubs with spinners and lower it, you are required by federal law passed by the AARP to "buy plaid shorts and move to florida during the winter" It's the pimpin' clause Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanduh 0 #12 December 28, 2004 LET'S BAG IT!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #13 December 28, 2004 QuoteUnless you put 22" dubs with spinners and lower it, you are required by federal law passed by the AARP to "buy plaid shorts and move to florida during the winter" It's the pimpin' clause SPINNERS? I hate those fucking things! Already has 20" on them.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #14 December 28, 2004 For that price, you could trick it out nice. Don't need to slam it and put on spinners. I'd be more embarassed in something like that. But you can firm up the suspension, give it a new paint job and graphics, and kick ass sound system and still come in under its value stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #15 December 28, 2004 Is it acceptable to leave it as is? I mean - are the pimp police going to come get me?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #16 December 28, 2004 No, just make sure you get that shirt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #17 December 28, 2004 I want an El Camino. I'd turn the bed thing into a swimming pool. That would be pimpin. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheenster303 0 #18 December 28, 2004 QuoteI want an El Camino. I'd turn the bed thing into a swimming pool. That would be pimpin. Hey that is a good idea! I wanna have a pimpin El Camino now!I'm so funny I crack my head open! P.M.S. #102 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #19 December 28, 2004 QuoteHey that is a good idea! I wanna have a pimpin El Camino now! We can paint it alien green. I get to drive!! ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lemonjelly 0 #20 December 28, 2004 Unless you put 22" dubs with spinners and lower it.... _____________________________________ And I've added the following appropriate graphic extra (see pic) ________________************************************************* RED LIGHTS & OFF LANDINGS ARE JUST MY THANG http://www.redlightrob.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #21 December 28, 2004 Well Clint, today is your lucky day! I happen to sell cars for a living. My notes are not meant to depress you, nor tell you not to buy the car. Just valuable free information to help in your car buying decision. If you are SURE the car is a STS and not a SLS, then you're in luck, maybe. I'm going to quote to you black book values (which is the book only dealerships get and use when trading a car in). The "average" trade black book value on a STS is $10,000. At that level, they would hit you for a mileage deduct of $2925, making the value around $7075. Because of the need for paint, excess miles, etc., they could swing to the "rough" category. That value is $7500 and a $2200 deduct for excess miles, making the value around $5300. Now you're real close to the asking price of the car. Then, you have to consider all the additions you want to do to it after you purchase it. Paint, tires, "pimping it out," etc. Not cheap at all, unless you can do it yourself or have friends in the right places. If that's not bad enough, let's consider costs for repairs. They are considered luxury cars and have luxury car labor costs. American made cars run about $60-$80 an hour. We have had several STS's on our lot. Mostly computer run, if that damn motherboard goes out, you might as well kiss that car goodbye. We had one that the board went out in. It made the engine overheat, cracked the head and then the engine locked up. Needless to say, we lost money on THAT car. Had to sell it to a wholesaler for next to nothing (that's about all it was worth). If the car is in decent shape outwardly, have a buddy check out the mechanical stuff (and even THAT isn't foolproof sometimes). I doubt your grandparents would purposely try to cheat you, but I doubt that they know much about that stuff. And forget the spinners. They are becoming passee'. Let me know what else I can do. Nina TharpNina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 December 28, 2004 QuoteWell Clint, today is your lucky day! I happen to sell cars for a living. WARNING!!! WARNING!!! Everything after the above statement is probably a lie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lemonjelly 0 #23 December 28, 2004 WARNING!!! WARNING!!! Everything after the above statement is probably a lie _________________ And, here's a pic of him to prove it ______________************************************************* RED LIGHTS & OFF LANDINGS ARE JUST MY THANG http://www.redlightrob.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islandcool 0 #24 December 28, 2004 QuoteAre you applying for a job as a pimp? Um, I probably wouldn't buy it strictly because of the number of miles on it. Once a car hits 100 grand, I get rid of it (or shortly thereafter). The 100 grand thing doesn't apply so much anymore. I'm an inspector for personal auto and do evaluations all the time. It's not unusual to see cars going 200k now days. Tolerances are tighter today then it was 15 years ago. Of course if the owner doesn't perform regular maintenance then that goes out the window. The quality of the manufacturer is also a big factor. I just did an eval on a 1989 towncar with 185k miles yesterday. Eval came back at $1800. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boinky 0 #25 December 28, 2004 QuoteWARNING!!! WARNING!!! Everything after the above statement is probably a lie. I can't believe you just said that. I'm so hurt..sniff...sniff...sniff. I've always been told that I am too honest to be a car salesperson. Besides, what do I have to gain for offering free advice that a normal dealership would never give? And I helped Bolas when he was considering buying his convertible and I think he made out OK on HIS purchase. SO THERE!!! Go spread YOUR evil lies elsewhere!!!!Nina Are we called "DAWGs" because we stick our noses up people's butts? (RIP Buzz) Yep, you're a postwhore-billyvance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
