PhreeZone 20 #26 December 13, 2004 Mines gone through the wash once with no issues, not wanting to push my luck though I'm brutal on my keys and never have scratched it. We were given "leather" cases for them, that seemed to cut down a lot on the injury rates. I loved it when we were looking at the RSA tokens and were told to "test to descruction" a few from our vendor. One person decided to drive over theirs. Came out not too good. The LCD cracked, but it kept changing numbers. You would be amazed at the number of people that leave them at airports, hotels, etc. Once we said they had to be on key rings all of a sudden the calls stoped that they were losing them Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #27 December 13, 2004 ***Yes. Easy enough to do with Win 2k (((shudder))) Your geek card just got revoked for that!!! You need to be ashamed of even thinking let alone saying that idea. IOS is nice... very nice. Netgear is about the cheapest way you could do this. Too bad that also means ineffectent and insecure.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #28 December 13, 2004 QuoteIf they're using Netgear, they're already trying to do this cheap. Cheap usually ends up being more expensive in man hours, down-time, and stolen data Yep pay now or pay later but you will pay if your gonna play on the IT way. I tried the cheap route years ago it blew up like I knew it would and made me look bad. I run away from those situations now. Is Win 2k on as a RAS server really a solution, or is that just inviting pain and agony? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #29 December 13, 2004 QuoteIOS is nice... very nice. Netgear is about the cheapest way you could do this. Too bad that also means ineffectent and insecure. and also a bitch to scale as Rhino is finding out. My solution 2 port pix, 1800 series router, and an aironet 1200, of course someone has to administrate and if you don't know IOS that could be a bitch, but they do have those pretty web interfaces which make it a lot easier Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #30 December 13, 2004 QuoteIs Win 2k on as a RAS server really a solution, or is that just inviting pain and agony? Inviting pain and agony. But hey, if you're gonna do it wrong, might as well go big!it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #31 December 13, 2004 Why not just recommend NetWare while you are at it?! Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #32 December 13, 2004 QuoteWhy not just recommend NetWare while you are at it?! Good idea.... how does netware do as a RADIUS server?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #33 December 13, 2004 QuoteWhy not just recommend NetWare while you are at it?! Don't forget, all the cool kids are using OS/2 clients now, too! You kids with your silly ethernet....10-base-T running IPX/SPX is where it's at...on second thought, that's too revolutionary. I'll just stick with token ring.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #34 December 13, 2004 Quote Why not just recommend NetWare while you are at it?! Hey I resemble that remark. Netware was by far a superior product, but Novells lack of focus and MS's marketing jugernaut convinced people that NT was an actual NOS and it worked and now 8 or 9 years later MS can finally offer something that is as good as Netware was( I haven't seen NetWare since 5) Domain structure + large network=Nightmare from hell NDS was the Bomb!!!!!......having never seen or touched AD I fixed a 2000 install wonder why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #35 December 13, 2004 Why would you want to run RADUIS? Something like Shiva should be plenty to do this. Besides, RADIUS actually has security built into it.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #36 December 13, 2004 QuoteWon't VPN pass though have the issue of actually needing to have a RAS server on the inside? Yeah which is why I said that I couldn't think of a good way to do it in my post Also, can I take this moment to mention how much I don't like netgear or linksys for more than home use?~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #37 December 13, 2004 QuoteI'll just stick with token ring. Only problem with that is when you lose the ring and have to run all over the building looking for it.......I hate that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #38 December 13, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'll just stick with token ring. Only problem with that is when you lose the ring and have to run all over the building looking for it.......I hate that That's why you wrap the ring with an ethernet - it catches derailed tokens. Wait... wasn't that a Dilbert cartoon?it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #39 December 13, 2004 QuoteAlso, can I take this moment to mention how much I don't like netgear or linksys for more than home use? Yep.......You really shouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight, it'll only cause you pain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #40 December 13, 2004 No, you lose the token. The ring can never be destroyed unless it is tossed into the fires of Mount Doom. You can find the token by looking around the building. Or in Kris's case the washing machine. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #41 December 14, 2004 QuoteAnd that is just about the stupidest security thing you could do. I hope you are not accepting money for a poor quality idea like that. The router passwords are really easy to crack, and you know that so much of port scans are over port 80. Where the hell do you think you are directing all the hackers to? Your weak security access point. Why even have a firewall in the first place if you are going to open the world up to you? I agree. I think it is very stupid. But the client demands it so they get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #42 December 14, 2004 QuoteI agree. I think it is very stupid. But the client demands it so they get it. If you let a client dictate anything less then a secure solution that is in line with best practices industry wide then I would have refused to ever work for the client in the first place.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
