Vallerina 2 #1 December 9, 2004 Yes, I know there are many of you who do not live in North America, but it seems that us Americans have a problem getting out of our bubble, so I thought I'd start a thread about music you will not hear on radio stations in the states. So, this isn't a thread about small, local bands that just haven't hit it big yet. This is the thread for music that's big in the Ukraine (for example.) My recommendations: Inspiration by Said Mrad - just a cool percussion/kanoon song; A clip here Shubra by Natacha Atlas - she has a beautiful voice, and it's (I think) about the area she grew up in; full preview on this page (scroll down to just above the second pic of her) Hely Meli by Hamid El Shaeri - it just sounds cool El Wala Wala by Hakim - I think it's about him and his friends picking up girls; Not the best clip of it here So, I've really grown to love these songs (which are all popular in other countries.) I'm just wondering what else is out there that you all can recommend! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowtimer 0 #2 December 9, 2004 Some good Arabian dance music and the soundtrack to a great movie ---------------------------------- Successfully avoiding adult responsibility since 1978! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 December 9, 2004 I'm not a big fan of most foriegn pop music, but I LOVE foriegn traditional music. I've got a lot of German Polkas, traditional Japanese, Chinese, Irish, American Indian, Indian (India Indian), Latino and quite a few others. Pop music is pop music no matter what language it is in. To really get into the culture you've got to have their traditional music, otherwise you're still listening to the same prepackaged crap.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #4 December 9, 2004 Quoteotherwise you're still listening to the same prepackaged crap. I'll beg to differ with this. There are good, popular bands in America, so it's the same everywhere else. You can have popular good stuff and popular crap.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 December 9, 2004 Believe what you want. I'm sticking with the traditional music. To me it has more meaning and a strong musicality about it then the pop-music I've listened to from other countries.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #6 December 9, 2004 QuoteBelieve what you want. I'll believe what my teachers who have spent 10 years in Egypt studying the culture have told me. Just a question, what music of the US is good, not popular and "traditional"?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 December 9, 2004 QuoteJust a question, what music of the US is good, not popular and "traditional"? Well, good question. Blues, swing, jazz, country, rock and roll. That's all traditional American music. Music genres created in America. Now, more specific and "more traditional." Bluegrass, slave songs, gospel music. There's more then just these as well. QuoteI'll believe what my teachers who have spent 10 years in Egypt studying the culture have told me. That's fine. I'd rather explore for myself and learn for myself then simply believe what a prof told me. Profs aren't always right and their opinions are often very skewed. So like I said. Believe what you want.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #8 December 9, 2004 QuoteWell, good question. Blues, swing, jazz, country, rock and roll. Okay, but these are all popular. Sam and Dave are extremely popular, and most people consider them "good." So, would someone coming here discovering Sam and Dave be at a loss because they're popular? QuoteI'd rather explore for myself and learn for myself then simply believe what a prof told me Well, I don't really have the option of going to lots of different countries and listening to all of the unpopular music. Anything you'll find in stores (yes, even the stores that are exclusive to one country) or on Amazon tends to be popular in other countries. It's already hard enough to find unpopular groups in the US, so it's only that much more difficult to find unpopular groups elsewhere. Hence, that's why I take the recommendations of people who have actually been there.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 December 9, 2004 And that's WHY I recommended getting away from the pop music (there's a difference between POP music and POPULAR music, you should know that) and listening to some traditional music. Instead of getting pissy, you should have asked what I had in my collection and I would have been happy to share with this really good music (mail you a compulation CD or open up a FTP for you).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #10 December 9, 2004 From Australia: The Cat Empire. Funny summery pop by jazz musicians. Highly highly recommended. From France/Spain: Manu Chao. Blues/dance/reggae. Simply amazing. If you ever get the chance to see him live, don't dare spurn it. I'm not listening to nearly as much music as I used to, but those two artists will brighten up your day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #11 December 9, 2004 QuoteInstead of getting pissy, I'm really not pissy! I'm just wondering why popular music gets such a bad rap. QuoteAnd that's WHY I recommended getting away from the pop music To the best of my knowledge, none of it's "pop" in that sense....especially Said's music. (Okay, so Hakim is, but it's easy to dance to.) Quoteyou should have asked what I had in my collection Uhh...that was pretty much how I started the thread out...asking people for songs and such.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #12 December 9, 2004 QuoteBlues/dance/reggae. Oooh! Thanks! When I went to Spain, we heard a few bands that were a mix of those three. It's really interesting! There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 December 9, 2004 QuoteUhh...that was pretty much how I started the thread out...asking people for songs and such. That's why I said look at traditional music instead of the pop music you listed. That makes more sense then me saying "hey Zi Zhu Diao is a good song" since I know the copy I have is a good version, I can't vouch for any other versions. That's the trick with traditional music. The version someone has may not even be close to a version that someone else has. You have to get a handful of versions and find the one that speaks to you directly. SOOOOO I was trying to nudge you in the right direction that was the entire point! (and if you would have asked, I would have let you pick through my collection. My traditional/cultural section only 500mb but its got some good stuff in there.)--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #14 December 9, 2004 -- Reamon a german band... the music i know is in english though.... (songs to include supergirl and joesephine) -- The Coors (yeah they had one song on the radio here, get thier the Coors Unpluged" albumb.. i love it) -- Die Totten Hosen -- hard rock geran band but they do have some slower songs... (i like the "Reich Und Sexy" albumb) sorry my selections are a little based in german as that's where i lved outside of the states..... yo might try some english bands though too,i heard alot of em on german mtv that i never have sen here in the states........ ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooked 0 #15 December 9, 2004 I want to know who listens to Kurt Nilsen, the world idol winner, and is his CD a good one? I loved his performance pf "A Beautiful Day"! J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pa2themd 0 #16 December 9, 2004 A brilliant South African Band called "Wonderboom" which directly translated means "Wonder Tree". The lead guitarist skydives at our club! Brilliant! They came second, last weekend at the National Battle of the Bands competition held in London!!!! the link to their site: www.wonderboom.co.za "Most of us can read the writing on the wall; we just assume it's addressed to someone else!" Ivern Ball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #17 December 9, 2004 Don't forget Andean Music (music from the Andes in South America), those are really cool tunes.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #18 December 9, 2004 I need good egyptian music. Too hard for me to find it since i have dial up at home. Find it for me Val. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #19 December 9, 2004 One year's pop/popular music becomes next decade/century's traditional music. When it comes to enjoying music, BREAK DOWN THE BARRIERS! If you like it, that's what counts. There is some music that a country would consider 'traditional' that we listening to it, would consider crappy 'pop' music. It is ethnocentric for us to judge another country's music. For example, you hear Bossa Nova music in movies, advertisements, elevators and grocery stores....it's only been around since 1957. The last few years, a new 'bossa nova' movement, led by DJs and singers like Bebel Gilberto, have redefined that genre. Which is POP and which is Traditional??? Doesn't matter if you groove to it!! marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcandalysse 0 #20 December 9, 2004 QuoteI'm just wondering what else is out there that you all can recommend! To get back on topic, I highly recommend visiting http://radio.terra.com.br/ , a Brasilian internet radio portal. It has LOTS of music styles to choose from, both native Brasilian, and international (including blues, classical,hiphop, surf, jazz, soul, electronica, disco, childrens, World Beat, Latin, evangelical etc). On that page, look for the first dropdown box (titled 'estaçoes') and choose your style. Brasilian music stations include: Radio Brasil mpb (musica popular brasileira) forro (from northeast very bouncy) pop rock nacional (rock brasil style) axe (afro pop from bahia) bossa nova samba sertanejo (kinda hillbilly country style) Samba is a 'traditional' music, but today's bands keep evolving the style. Same is true of forro (from northeast) and axe (from Bahia afro culture) etc. ENJOY!! marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #21 December 9, 2004 QuoteDon't forget Andean Music (music from the Andes in South America), those are really cool tunes. The Peruvian panpipes are so unique. El Condor Pasa (played by any number of artists) is a very beautiful, almost meloncholy song that is well-known/popular, yet true to its heritage. As mentioned previously, I adore taiko drum playing. Kodo is a well-known taiko drum-playing group from Japan that is very popular and tours the world. The music is hypnotic, expressive, physical...try to see them live if you ever get the chance on their One Earth Tour. I've seen them live 5 times in the last 7 years or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #22 December 9, 2004 QuoteEl Condor Pasa (played by any number of artists) is a very beautiful, almost meloncholy song that is well-known/popular, yet true to its heritage. I think Simon & Garfunkel did that song too. I'm a huge S & F fan. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #23 December 9, 2004 Thanks for the site! Lots to look at!!!There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #24 December 9, 2004 QuoteThe Peruvian panpipes are so unique. El Condor Pasa (played by any number of artists) is a very beautiful, almost meloncholy song that is well-known/popular, yet true to its heritage. That's only one song out of thousands, instrumental Peruvian music is in my opinion music for the soul.__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #25 December 9, 2004 QuoteQuoteThe Peruvian panpipes are so unique. El Condor Pasa (played by any number of artists) is a very beautiful, almost meloncholy song that is well-known/popular, yet true to its heritage. That's only one song out of thousands, instrumental Peruvian music is in my opinion music for the soul. It'a the best known and easily accessible. Give me some of your favorites, Ivan. (I am Peruvian, btw.) Yes, Sunny, it was played by Simon and Garfunkel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites