skycat 0 #1 December 7, 2004 Are sitting outside my apartment right now. Apparently someone on the 1st floor had a little fire. Derek ran down to see if we needed to grab some stuff and get out, by the time he got back upstairs to tell me that they had the fire out and all was well, all pets were in cages ready for transport and all important documentation was in my purse. Everything else is replaceable. (photos are stored on a server at a different locatin)Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #2 December 7, 2004 Wow! Good for you to have everything all set - I just recently got all my important papers in a central location for emergencies just like that one. Of coursee, getting my male cat into a cage is an all day affair - don't know how we'd do it in an emergency situation JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #3 December 7, 2004 Scruff him. It's what I did to Mem, to get him in his carrier fast. Grab the skin and fur at the back of his neck and gently lift him up, he should go limp or at least be calm then stuff him and shut the door fast. I just took a pic of me scruffing Mem, he still squirms some, but he is really easy to put where you want him. In the pic I'm holding up his hind end because I don't want to hurt him by having all his weight hang off his neck.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funks 1 #4 December 7, 2004 whats a fire trunk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #5 December 7, 2004 happy nowFly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #6 December 7, 2004 Well, I'm working late and there's a huge high rise fire about a block and a half away. The fire trucks and news crews are in front of my building! Hopefully, the fire started late enough that there weren't many people there, and they all got out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katiebear21 0 #7 December 7, 2004 Girl, you're so organized... makes me feel normal. Katie Get your PMS glass necklace here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #8 December 7, 2004 Quote Well, I'm working late and there's a huge high rise fire about a block and a half away. The fire trucks and news crews are in front of my building! Hopefully, the fire started late enough that there weren't many people there, and they all got out! Not to hijack the thread, but here's the fire you're talking about: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/120604_ns_Lasalle_fire.html AndyMan and I have been watching the news coverage for the last 1.5 hrs, and we went up to the roof of our building (we live in the west loop) to see if we could see anything. All we saw was fog and five choppers hanging out south of the area! _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #9 December 7, 2004 I'm just hoping it isn't a repeat of last year! 7 people died in that fire and near as I can tell, the city hasn't done much to enforce the requirement for buildings to practice their emergency procedures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #10 December 7, 2004 Tell Derek to get a fire resistive records box/safe to hold all your important papers, passports, birth certs. insurance, vehicle pink slips and that shit. If there is a fire, yell at the pets on the way out of the door and don't go back in for anything. When the dust settles ask one of the firefighters to find you important papers box/safe. Almost 50% of the fire deaths in this country could have been avoided by doing this. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 December 7, 2004 QuoteAlmost 50% of the fire deaths in this country could have been avoided by doing this. I'm actually kinda worried about all my ammo cooking off in a fire, I'm going to have to get a fire box just for that...I've been thinking about it for a while but I guess I'll just have to go do it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #12 December 7, 2004 Sparky, you would be so proud of me, all my important papers are in a fire proof box. As for yelling at the pets on my way out the door, I might have a problem leaving them behind. Heck, I think those dogs of mine will be running out the door in front of me.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #13 December 7, 2004 From the news reports, the building had a fireplan, it was executed as practiced. Aparently no fatalities yet. What's absolutely amazing, is that this is a 40-something story building built in the 30's, and like most Chicago skyscrapers it doesn't have a sprinkler system! I've lived in a whole lotta big cities in my life, and I've never seen one that doesn't require sprinklers in thier skyscrapers... never mind one with the 'fire' history like chicago! _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #14 December 7, 2004 QuoteI'm actually kinda worried about all my ammo cooking off in a fire, I'm going to have to get a fire box just for that...I've been thinking about it for a while but I guess I'll just have to go do it. Don't put it in a metal box. When it gets hot it will cook off and have the sides of the box to back up against. As you know, when a round goes off, if the case is not held in place, the bullet and the case will just come apart with very little velocity. Much safer in a cardboard box during a fire. (at least for the firefighter crawling in looking for the fire) SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #15 December 7, 2004 QuoteSparky, you would be so proud of me, all my important papers are in a fire proof box. As for yelling at the pets on my way out the door, I might have a problem leaving them behind. Heck, I think those dogs of mine will be running out the door in front of me. Dogs are smarter than cats. If you open the door they will leave. If fact if the smoke alarm doesn't wake you up, the dogs will. Damn cats will try and hide. Sparky PS: About your new signature line....did someone find a lover that doesn't drive her crazy?My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #16 December 7, 2004 No pics of the fire, but the smoke (and a bit of fog) was laying a blanket over downtown. Two pics. Anyone from Chicago should know how bright these buildings usually are.... _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #17 December 7, 2004 Damn - need to make some phone calls to make sure my friends were at home. Looking like this may be a better scenario than last year. So far 26 people hurt and all in the hospital - most are above 'fair' condition, two of them were firefighters. I always found the grandfather clause on the spinkler system for the skyscrapers here in the city to be odd, esp since the tallest ladder in the CFD can only go as high as the 15th floor (notice they are on the roofs of other buildings to try to reach the flames). Did you see the footage earlier this year when they recreated the fire from last year? They are trying to use that to force the Mayor to get sprinklers put into all the old buildings, but they are saying due to $$$ that may never happen._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman32 0 #18 December 7, 2004 It's great that you guys are prepared for fire, but don't stop to get anything other than the people who can't walk (ie small kids and the elderly). The most of the paperwork can probably be replaced despite being a huge pain in the ass. But definately don't waste time getting anything that is not alive. Btw, if you live in a apartment, bang on your neighbors doors on the way out Inveniam Viam aut Faciam I'm back biatches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #19 December 7, 2004 Quote Don't put it in a metal box. When it gets hot it will cook off and have the sides of the box to back up against. As you know, when a round goes off, if the case is not held in place, the bullet and the case will just come apart with very little velocity. Much safer in a cardboard box during a fire. (at least for the firefighter crawling in looking for the fire) Sparky Having it in a gun safe would be fine - most safes have gypsum board or something similar as a fire barrier anyhow. If rounds cook off, whether they are backed up against a metal wall or not, the case will most likely (almost guaranteed) split as there is no chamber around it to support it. Of course, any weapons in the safe would be unloaded, so no danger of a chambered round cooking off.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #20 December 7, 2004 QuoteQuote Don't put it in a metal box. When it gets hot it will cook off and have the sides of the box to back up against. As you know, when a round goes off, if the case is not held in place, the bullet and the case will just come apart with very little velocity. Much safer in a cardboard box during a fire. (at least for the firefighter crawling in looking for the fire) Sparky Having it in a gun safe would be fine - most safes have gypsum board or something similar as a fire barrier anyhow. If rounds cook off, whether they are backed up against a metal wall or not, the case will most likely (almost guaranteed) split as there is no chamber around it to support it. Of course, any weapons in the safe would be unloaded, so no danger of a chambered round cooking off. Cartridge brass softens significantly at around 400C. I've never cooked a cartridge to see at what temperature it goes off, but if it's above 400C a brass case will certainly split very easily. The strength doesn't return on cooling, so if you have brass cased cartridges that overheated, your best bet is to dispose of them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theskydiveguy 0 #21 December 7, 2004 My cat when scruffed wont go in the box. I find covering her head/eyes with a t-shirt.. then scruffing her works best? ~Jeff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #22 December 7, 2004 I voted for vacuum-sealing the cat, but was veto'd Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #23 December 7, 2004 QuoteI voted for vacuum-sealing the cat, but was veto'd Derek We are not playing kitties in space.Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #24 December 7, 2004 QuoteMy cat when scruffed wont go in the box. I find covering her head/eyes with a t-shirt.. then scruffing her works best My cats are weird. I open the door of the kitty carrier, and they trot right in. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 December 8, 2004 QuoteMy cat when scruffed wont go in the box. I find covering her head/eyes with a t-shirt.. then scruffing her works best? ~Jeff Put their food/water in the OPEN carrier for a week or so, they'll get used to going in/out of it and it'll be a lot easier... it works for horses and trailers, too.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
