HTML Editors

[Zep 0]

I've finally decided to put up a web page. (Be it good or bad remains to be seen)
Now I have to find a editor for dorks (remember I can sometimes be a bigger dork than Adam

So which editor do you recommend an if possible tell me why.

Gone fishing

[metalslug 36]

I do dont nearly as much Web work as I used to but I always liked UltraEdit.

I hate "intelligent" editors that like to insert their own crap in for you in places.
UltraEdit color codes the tags, comments and script texts, only stores what you type, and is useful for so much more than just HTML editing.



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[CrazyIvan 0]

Well, I'd try this one, why?....well, it's FREE.

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[WhirledWeb 0]

Do you need an HTML editor or a web page layout program?

If you want to edit HTML, ultraEdit and Homesite seem to be as good as any of them out there. More features than you'll ever use, a customizable interface to layout the elements on your editor as you choose... and simple logic for adding, editing, finding, replacing and analysing your HTML are all standard features in any HTML editor. Homesite was purchased by Macromedia a few years ago and is nice to use in tandem with Dreamweaver.

If, however, you are managing the content of your web site - I don't recommend an HTML editor (unless they're ultra-geeky - like me - and want to be drenched in the code).

If you're looking to manage your content, have your layout made in dreamweaver by somebody who knows what they're doing, and manage your content using "Contribute" click for contribute.

Contribute lets you (or somebody who works for you) to manage the content on your site with only the skills of using a browser and an application similar to Microsoft Word. *IT IS NOT A WEB BASED APPLICATION* as are so many of the "content management solutions" out there... Contribute is an application that lives on your computer, connects to your web site, lets you browse your web site and then choose to "edit" a page. When you edit a page, it checks the page out to you to prevent another person (if you've got multiple content administration staff) from over-writing your work. Contribute has built-in image editing features, very intuitive interface for adding thinks like word documents, additional pages, links, etc etc...

We've got about a dozen of our clients (who are NOT computer geeks) that manage 99% of the content on their own web site... they only use their webmaster to make high-level changes to the design template or if they need something that connects to the database.

In house, we use Homesite, UltraEdit, VI, Dreamweaver and FlexBuilder depending on the application and need.

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[nate_1979 9]

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I do dont nearly as much Web work as I used to but I always liked UltraEdit.

I hate "intelligent" editors that like to insert their own crap in for you in places.
UltraEdit color codes the tags, comments and script texts, only stores what you type, and is useful for so much more than just HTML editing.

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I use CoffeeCup, been using it as long as I can remember.. but it also requires you to know a little bit of HTML, .. Not an "intelligent" editor.

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[Zep 0]

Thanks all of you for your advice I've downloaded
all that have been suggested
Over the next few weeks I'll give them a try.

Gone fishing

[rjackson 0]

one word ... Notepad

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[AggieDave 6]

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one word ... Notepad

Here here!

I've messed with FrontPage, its creates cookie cutter bullshit pages. If your provider has frontpage extensions, find another provider, their decisions for the security of their servers is very poor.

I've messed with Premiere, It can do some neat things, but its too hard to really tweak what you're doing. Actually scripting out the HTML is the way to go. Nevermind that HTML is painfully simple. Even coding ASP is easy to do in notepad, never mind the other simple things like style sheets and such.

Just so much easier and much faster to do it by hand.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[mailin 0]

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I've messed with FrontPage, its creates cookie cutter bullshit pages. If your provider has frontpage extensions, find another provider, their decisions for the security of their servers is very poor.

Not completely true. FrontPage in and of itself is not a bad editor - if you know what your looking for in the code it can generate, its easy to create fantastic sites with them.

The learning curve can be too steep for most people starting out if they use notepad - it can frustrate people.

www.roadwaysolutions.com
www.gaiasrose.org - work in progress

two sites created using FrontPage - cause it came with my computer


Jen

Arianna Frances

[AggieDave 6]

How many people will do that? They'll simply use FP extensions and then get pissed when they find out their host won't support the extensions due to server security concerns.

I firmly believe that if you want to create a website, you should learn HTML and go with it. Anything less continues to polute the internet with absolute bullshit.

"Hi my name is John Doe...this is my cat, this is my poetry about my cat..." And then have a ton of damned animated "under construction" GIFs going apeshit on the site.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[mailin 0]

Agreed - learning HTML is very easy, but for someone just getting started, such as the person that started the thread, FP is not the WORST way to go - in many cases Notepad can be frustrating enough that they won't end up doing anything with HTML at all, which would be a loss.

And you and I both created one of those annoying sites at one point - hell, I used to love .midi files when they first gained popularity and used to plaster all of my pages with those stupid songs

Everyone has to start somewhere

Jen

Arianna Frances

[AggieDave 6]

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Everyone has to start somewhere

Yup. Luckily I started in '94 so midi was hot shit and animated GIFs weren't hated fully yet.

It is fun...atleast it used to be fun for me, I got really burnt out doing professional web design...god that stuff burned me. Made some serious cash, though.

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[kallend 2,105]

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one word ... Notepad

Here here!

I've messed with FrontPage, its creates cookie cutter bullshit pages. If your provider has frontpage extensions, find another provider, their decisions for the security of their servers is very poor.

I've messed with Premiere, It can do some neat things, but its too hard to really tweak what you're doing. Actually scripting out the HTML is the way to go. Nevermind that HTML is painfully simple. Even coding ASP is easy to do in notepad, never mind the other simple things like style sheets and such.

Just so much easier and much faster to do it by hand.

In addition, every fancy editor I've tried makes finished html code that is about 5 times longer than it needs to be to do the job.

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[AggieDave 6]

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...makes finished html code that is about 5 times longer than it needs to be to do the job.

In the case of Microsoft's Front Page, what do you expect?

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[nate_1979 9]

Personally, I have ALWAYS HATED MIDI files on websites, still do.. Chances are, if I am on the internet (as I am now), I am playing MY OWN DAMN MUSIC.. Always have, always well, never needed a website to make a bunch of noise for me... As far as animated GIFs, I dont have any on my website, but I dont mind them as long as they arnt everywhere...

here's my website (made mostly for my family so they can keep up w/ me).. made with Coffee Cup HTML Editor (the best )
http://nate.txrxnetworking.com

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I miss the sky...
There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

[Stacy 0]

when i used to do web design for cross keys and some temple u staff, if i was in a hurry i'd use frontpage to generate the basic code then copy and paste the code into notepad and edit it. Frontpage got the gist of what i wanted, but then i wen t back and *rearranged* a few things the old fashioned way.

ahhh.. the days of a basic FTP program and notepad.