GARYC24 3 #1 November 9, 2004 I went to a place, took 2hr class. Man, it is hard! My arms are sore. Climb 1/2 up a 25' wall, about 5 times! Spent rest of time, belaying. Have to go back and take test to prove I remember how to tie-in and belay tie. Sort of skydive related, a friend of mine climbs, so I found this place and we might both go. I will return and use this as a alternate gym work out. My goal is to climb the 45' wall. It's called " Boulderdash " Anyone in So. Cal 805 area code that climbs or interested, please PM me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #2 November 9, 2004 QuoteMan, it is hard! My arms are sore. Its not so hard if you dont use your arms as much. You shouldnt be pulling yourself up, you should be pushing yourself up with your legs There are a few avid climbers on here that can give you some great tips...that one there is a biggy though! She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #3 November 9, 2004 Good pont. However I didn't have the shoes on for the class. Didn't need them they said. Next time I will have a pair. Also, all these guys have strong arms and fingers! Oh. and the women as well. matter of fact the most impressive show of skill was from a lady there, she was 'leading' the 45'wall, at 1 point she was upside down..I think she was using her arms alot at that point! hahaa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #4 November 9, 2004 Here in Texas we have a gym that has a 120 ft route. I have been there a few times so far. Climbed the 120 ft route only once. http://www.stoneworkssilos.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkey1031 0 #5 November 9, 2004 Forget about how tall the wall is. concentrate on the rating... i.e., 5.8, 5.9, 5.9c, etc. there are 8' tall routes, that are a million times harder than a 4 pitch climb.... and yeah, get some shoes.. it's night and day. smd7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #6 November 9, 2004 There are some very tough routes there. There are a couple that I recall that don't have anything but pits in the walls for hand and foot holds. btw I fixed my link to their website. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #7 November 9, 2004 QuoteNext time I will have a pair. Don't expect them to be comfortable. Just ask Renee, when she went climbing with me on her last visit here. She kept asking me, "What's that screaming I hear?" I told her it was my feet, being stuck in my climbing shoes. Once the shoes were off, the screams stopped. I found that if I can just slip the heals off on my shoes, when I'm not climbing, then I can stand them longer.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #8 November 9, 2004 One thing that I really like about the silos is that the routes are all split up. You don't have 3 routes in one location, so you don't have to worry about only using certain holds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #9 November 9, 2004 I checked that link..WOW!. Have you done the silos? Also, since these are top rope, the ratings are just simulated of course,right? Doesn't matter to me, I'm just gonna get into a a few days a month until I can get to the top of all the walls there..(belayed) Boulder stuff will be slow process. I may attempt a real rock "Stoney Point" as soon as I get my shoes and harness,etc. To me this indoor place is a great/fun/challenging thing to do. Personally,I'm not ashame to admit,,it's makes me nervous and can be scary climbing that high! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #10 November 9, 2004 Currently I have only done the easier routes. The 120ft route is an easy route just very tall. I am still trying to get my endurance and hand stregth up. The silos are ony about 20 mins away from my apartment so I am trying to go as often as I can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #11 November 9, 2004 I screamed on the inside at the price tags! It will be the first time I will pay over $100 for a pair of shoes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #12 November 9, 2004 QuoteQuote Don't expect them to be comfortable. Just ask Renee, when she went climbing with me on her last visit here. She kept asking me, "What's that screaming I hear?" I told her it was my feet, being stuck in my climbing shoes. Once the shoes were off, the screams stopped. I found that if I can just slip the heals off on my shoes, when I'm not climbing, then I can stand them longer. I wear a 8 1/2 size shoe and my climbing shoes are 5. I had 6 but I found that they got too big after awhile. Climbers will understand that!!!! Nothing worse that banging your big toe over and over again againt rock/plywood/cement/etc. I just take them off when I'm belaying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #13 November 9, 2004 QuoteI just take them off when I'm belaying I'm too lazy, besides, I hate having to stand in the little rocks barefoot. It's also easier to do that when out side, rather then finding a rock to sit on and change my shoes. I do take sandals to change into when I'm outside, if the routes are longer or harder for when my partner is on the wall. Gary, I have two pairs of shoes. One for inside and one for outside. Believe me, you will notice the difference once you have climbing shoes. If you take good care of them, they will last you for some time. Then once the souls get worn out, just get them re-souled. That will save you some money.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #14 November 9, 2004 Quote I have two pairs of shoes. One for inside and one for outside. Believe me, you will notice the difference once you have climbing shoes. If you take good care of them, they will last you for some time. Then once the souls get worn out, just get them re-souled. That will save you some money. So do you have the same model shoe for inside and outside? I use the same ones inside and out, but then again I wore through a few soles pretty quick. I mostly climb indoors in winter now anyways. So two pairs is a preference thing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #15 November 9, 2004 I have the slip on ones for inside climbing and the lace/tie up ones for outside. It's not really the slip or tie that I'm concerned about, it's how thick the souls are. I use the lighter souls for inside, and the more heavy duty ones for outside. Inside I like to feel more of the route.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davedlg 0 #16 November 9, 2004 I so rarely climb inside anymore that I dont bother having a second pair for inside shoes. (But as luck would have it I am going climbing inside after work tonight) I have gone through three pair of the same shoes since I started climbing (mythos) and I still havent found any that I like better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
climbnjump 0 #17 November 10, 2004 It's personal preference regarding the number of pairs of shoes needed. I have friends who have climbed for years and only own one pair at a time used both indoors and out. I'm not exactly on par with Imelda Marcos, but I have a few pairs of climbing shoes. Two pairs for indoor climbing - one with more flexible soles for toe work leading overhangs and ceilings and another pair with stiffer soles for most other routes. For outdoors I like stiffer soles with high tops for use on granite routes, softer soles for use on sandstone, and yet another pair (more like specialized hiking boots) for longer alpine routes. And then there's the pair of double plastics for mountaineering and another more flexible pair of double plastics for technical ice climbing. Feet are useful appendages - be sure to provide 'em with good tools... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 November 10, 2004 There is a rock climbing forum here. Our local gym VE just expanded to 18000 sq feet of surface (over double). Big boldering cave upstairs, etc. I can't wait to get home. The site has a photo tour of the new areas: www.verticalendeavors.com St. Paul location Shoes: I have outdoor and indoor shoes. I've very partial to Mad Rocks ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanillaSkyGirl 6 #19 November 10, 2004 QuoteForget about how tall the wall is. concentrate on the rating... i.e., 5.8, 5.9, 5.9c, etc. there are 8' tall routes, that are a million times harder than a 4 pitch climb.... and yeah, get some shoes.. it's night and day. smd7 EXACTLY!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #20 November 23, 2004 went climbing today with a friend, indoors, half way between my home and my DZ... Now I know what I can do on non-jumpable days Classification here is different though... Did a 4C, 5A 5B and 5C, my arms are not too bad for the moment, but pretty sure I won't be able to move tomorrow... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GARYC24 3 #21 November 23, 2004 Alright! It's a fun gym ain't it! haha I will be getting my shoes, in about 2 weeks. Turned down a chance to go outside somewhere with friend on Friday due to had to work..Then company decides to shut-down..figures..I would probably, help belay..after he lead climbs.. Keep in touch with it.. PS I don't know all what all the 5.8, stuff means yet.. Not really concerned at the moment ahah..To me their all 5.8's! haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #22 November 23, 2004 I got an indoor center in a castle which is literally 1.5 mins from my front door....how cool is that! http://www.castle-climbing.co.uk/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #23 November 23, 2004 just remember it's not about arm strength but leverage and balance. If you look at the pictures at the bottom of the page you will see pictures taken at the gym of both Derek and I on some steep bouldering problems. If you notice in both cases our arms are strait and we are rotating the shoulders or torsos to make the next move. http://www.jumpergirl.com/climbing2003.htmlFly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #24 November 23, 2004 gonna get some shoes and a harness very soon... very fun gym indeed... specially today there were very few people, so I didn't feel too intimidated... Quite sure it'll help fly my wingsuit better... Zoter, any pics/directions/info on your castle ???scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #25 November 23, 2004 Quotejust remember it's not about arm strength but leverage and balance. If you look at the pictures at the bottom of the page you will see pictures taken at the gym of both Derek and I on some steep bouldering problems. If you notice in both cases our arms are strait and we are rotating the shoulders or torsos to make the next move. nice pics. Very impressive technique to me.... I sure know its not about arm strength... But on my time on the wall, that's all I managed to do... Will certainly get better with time... Thanks for the advice.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
