jahk 0 #1 November 24, 2004 Hubby's been playing with MS Flight Simulator to practice flying the plane he's building. He's been flying to airports we're likely to go to, such as Scottsdale, Lodi (where his mom lives), and finally, at my urging, Eloy. This program will go online and get you the weather. It simulates ATC to give you clearance to fly through their airspace. It will vector you in for a landing. But it doesn't mention anything about skydiving operations at Eloy. This despite more people landing there out of a plane than in a plane. And at least one of my pilot co-workers telling me that anytime he flies anywhere near there, ATC informs him that he should be aware that there is skydiving going on at Eloy. Judith ________________________________________________Imelda Marcos just wanted some cute shoes that didn't make her feet hurt. Why's that so hard to understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 November 24, 2004 Those are ATC advisories. They give those out to any listening plane. They are required to give them out, but only after getting a trigger from the DZ that a plane is 2 minutes out from droping jumpers. The pilot gives a ATC a 2 minute, 1 minute, jumpers away and jumpers landed calls. Thats when ATC does their advisories.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #3 November 24, 2004 QuoteThose are ATC advisories. They give those out to any listening plane. Fuggit I'm not listening. Getting my pilot's license may very well suck...for everyone concerned!!! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jahk 0 #4 November 24, 2004 Hm. Since the program goes online and gets the current weather, maybe he flew in when it was too cloudy for jumping, and there were no advisories. Judith ______________________________________________Imelda Marcos just wanted some cute shoes that didn't make her feet hurt. Why's that so hard to understand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 November 24, 2004 No, the program is not set up for triggers. They do not announce skydiving in the area at most DZ's unless the plane is with in that 2 minute window. Since its only doing simulated traffic control it has no idea of a plane climbing into jump run then telling ATC of the intent to jump. Granted that as the jump plane talks to ATC on the climb up ATC will route traffic away in prep for the jump, but it takes the jump plane advising ATC that they will be jumping to do that. They don't reroute traffic for some sightseer thats flying out of Eloy.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #6 November 24, 2004 It would be cool to have permanent NOTAMs show up in the Sim._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #7 November 24, 2004 Umm... there's no skydiving in MS flight sim, so it doesn't really matter. In real life, fly along at 4500 feet listening to 122.8 on a sunny saturday afternoon and you're likely to hear jump planes in the area (within 100 miles or so). I used to fly to Delmarva in DE and hear the jump planes at 3 or 4 different DZs along the way. And none of those DZs were anywhere nearby. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #8 November 24, 2004 QuoteIt would be cool to have permanent NOTAMs show up in the Sim. In what form? Notams are just notices...not necessarily anything that could be...uhhh...simulated. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #9 November 24, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt would be cool to have permanent NOTAMs show up in the Sim. In what form? Notams are just notices...not necessarily anything that could be...uhhh...simulated. Dave I only have MS Sim 2003 and haven't played with it too much. Maybe if there was a way you could file a flight plan on it - this way NOTAMs could come into use._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #10 November 24, 2004 The sim can be as realistic as you wanna make it. Check the real notams before flying in the sim if you want. Permanent notams like skydiving ops are listed in the Airport and Facilities Directory (and websites like http://www.airnav.com). Temporary ones are available online, but they're usually things like unlit cranes, airport or antenna lights out of service, VORs out of service, runways closed for repaving, laser light shows, and stuff like that. They don't really affect filing a flight plan. Gotta check the notams before filing the flight plan to know if there will be any problems along your route. People have even filed VFR flight plans and gotten ATC services to fly to closed or restricted airports. It's up to the pilot to check on those things beforehand. But yeah, in FS2004, you can file flight plans. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
