eightate8at8 0 #1 September 17, 2009 And I'm not really sure what my options are. So far I'm thinking: Sabre Sabre2 Silhouette Storm (New and pricy?) Safire (1 or 2?) Strange how these are all S's I've read about the first Sabre and some harsh openings, so that sort of pushed me away from that. What suggestions would you guys have? WL on a 150 would be about 1.05 Thanks guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g3ninfinite 0 #2 September 17, 2009 add the Spectre as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morrison79 0 #3 September 17, 2009 Demo all of the canopies you can. Try a Pilot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eightate8at8 0 #4 September 17, 2009 Quote add the Spectre as well The spectre wouldn't be too fast for me (as a first canopy)? I weight 135 btw. And yes, I want to haul ass but in a safe manner. I don't want to be stuck on a 240 navigator under canopy for half an hour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #5 September 17, 2009 and a lotus! "Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrwrong 0 #6 September 17, 2009 Quote and a lotus! +1!!!!! Gotta love them air locks “The sum of intelligence on the planet is a constant; the population is growing.” - George Bernard Shaw He who dies with the most toys, wins..... dudeist skydiver # 19515 Buy quality and cry once! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #7 September 17, 2009 QuoteQuoteadd the Spectre as well The spectre wouldn't be too fast for me (as a first canopy)? Nope. It's a tame 7 cell at the appropriate loading, which can be said for all the canopies you listed (the tame part). Also the triathalon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronaldo 0 #8 September 17, 2009 Try to get a used Triathlon or Spectre or even Sabre1 (there are ways to fix the openings). You'll probably find used canopies like these really cheap. For now save the money to jump! Engineering Law #5: The most vital dimension on any plan drawing stands the most chance of being omitted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eightate8at8 0 #9 September 17, 2009 Quote Nope. It's a tame 7 cell at the appropriate loading, which can be said for all the canopies you listed (the tame part). Also the triathalon. Awesome, that keeps my options open definitely Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #10 September 17, 2009 The Spectre is a great canopy. As others have said its a tame 7 cell and easy on the body with its built in snivel and easy to flair an land. The silhouette on the other hand is a good canopy to fly and pack but the landing demands more attention to timing the flair, just like the Triathalon.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #11 September 17, 2009 If you want to travel in the air or come back from a long spot and have a very strong flare, choose a 9 cell Sabre 2. If you want to get a more steep descent take a 7 cell Storm which is in a way the successor of the Spectre. If you want something with very light toggle pressure, travel a lot in the air, easy packing and average flare choose the PD 9 cell Pulse. Talk about that to an instructor who knows you very well. Your canopy has to reflect what you need and what kind of flying you prefer. Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 4 #12 September 18, 2009 QuoteTry to get a used Triathlon or Spectre or even Sabre1 (there are ways to fix the openings). You'll probably find used canopies like these really cheap. For now save the money to jump! + 1^infinity = lim[x->infinity] 1^xI like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Will_Evo 0 #13 September 18, 2009 Wouldn't it be kind of a big step for a beginner to be loading a sabre 2 at 1.0? Just because it is slightly tapered? I dunno, I just thought I heard that somewhere, and a reason I steered away from it as my first canopy. To the OP, I am jumping a Spectre 170 loaded at 1.07. I love this canopy, even though I can't compare it to anything besides the student gear, I don't have to much problem getting back from semi long spots. The flare is good, but I am still learning to perfect it. The openings are very soft, but I find very hard to control during the packing process, I almost always open off heading a bit, but I am getting better at packing it to avoid this. Hope this info helps. GL -EvoZoo Crew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eightate8at8 0 #14 September 18, 2009 I think I've found a good deal on a spectre and that's what I'm going with.. And I'm fine on a sabre2 at 1.0 even a little greater than 1.0. It's what I used all off AFF downsizing until I was at the 1.0 mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #15 September 18, 2009 I'm a little late here, but I think you'll be happy with the Spectre...I love my Spectre 210. It's very forgiving to an old guy like me and gets me back to Terra Firma safely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NiteQwill 0 #16 September 19, 2009 A Spectre is great as a first canopy. It treated me very well. Opens nicely, on-heading, and provided great landings."Fail, fail again. Fail better." -Samuel Beckett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #17 September 19, 2009 try a PD Pulse !!but for now,, used might be the ticket !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #18 September 19, 2009 QuoteWouldn't it be kind of a big step for a beginner to be loading a sabre 2 at 1.0? Not at all. All of SDDallas's student gear is Sabre 2's. The student's jump at normal WL up till A lic. Sabre 2 is a great canopy to learn from.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Will_Evo 0 #19 September 19, 2009 Oh wow I had no idea, I guess the "slightly elliptical"(thats I what I meant to say the first time not tapered) just kind of sounded a lil out of my range. Well thats good to know for in the future.-Evo Zoo Crew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eightate8at8 0 #20 September 24, 2009 What would you think about a Nitro 150? As a refresher I'm only 135lb on the ground. Flew Sabre2 150's with no problems; a little boring but from what I've read the Nitro isn't too much more aggressive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #21 September 24, 2009 A slightly tapered canopy like the Sabre 2 shouldn't be a problem at all even for beginners. BTW the Spectre is slightly tapered too if my memory is good. The advantage of the Sabre 2 is that it is a 9 cells and will provide you a stronger flare than a 7 cells. Remember that your student canopy was a 9 cells.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eightate8at8 0 #22 September 24, 2009 Sooo about that nitro..? Hah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #23 September 24, 2009 Is this the same Nitro that the Dutch parachute federation mandate a minimum of 700 jumps before flying? Some people may describe it as moderate, but it's fully elliptical and still probably a little on the unforgiving side at your stage of the game. It's possible you know this and are just trolling, in which case well done, ya got me. Otherwise... keep shopping -- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eightate8at8 0 #24 September 24, 2009 You don't think it'd be a smart choice? Not challenging you, just trying to figure out..! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #25 September 24, 2009 The Nitro is a full tapered canopy and has almost the same shape than a Katana (seen from above). The big difference between those canopies is that the Katana has a 18 degrees trim angle while the Nitro has only 13.5 degrees. BTW I jumped both of them and they are not for beginners.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
