skymama 37 #1 October 15, 2004 The President is going to be in Daytona tomorrow, just down the road from Deland. Does anyone know if him being there will shut down jumping in Deland because of the no-fly rule and security reasons?She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GogglesnTeeth 6 #2 October 15, 2004 It probably will. A good old TFR! Ask your pilots, they will know for sure, or call the local airports. Every time GWB is in the Seattle area, Blue Skies over on the other side of the sound is shut down till he leaves. fun fun!!!Goggles and Teeth "You fall like a greased safe!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #3 October 15, 2004 Yes, it will. He's supposed to be in Fort Lauderdale first though. From AOPA: QuoteAOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin October 15, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------------- A special notice to AOPA members in the Florida area ==> ATTENTION PILOTS <== FAA TO ESTABLISH TFRs OVER FLORIDA FOR PRESIDENTIAL VISITS AOPA is sending this message to advise pilots in and near Florida that the FAA has begun issuing notams restricting flight in the state during President Bush's planned visits on Saturday, October 16, Monday, October 18, and Tuesday, October 19. Based on AOPA's best information at this time from the FAA and White House, the president will arrive in Sunrise/Fort Lauderdale sometime Saturday then travel by bus to West Palm Beach. Based on previous presidential bus tours, expect a 10-nautical-mile-radius general aviation no-fly zone that will follow along with the bus and extend to Flight Level 180. Also, expect 30-nm-mile-radius temporary flight restrictions (TFRs) over the aforementioned cities. AOPA will post the notams on AOPA Online ( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html ) as soon as possible after they are issued. Graphics will also be available. The president is expected to fly to Daytona Beach later on Saturday where there will be a 30-nm-radius TFR centered on the OMN VOR's 159-degree radial at 7.9 miles. It will be in effect from 2:55 p.m. until 5:30 p.m. local. Also, there will be a smaller 10-nm-radius GA no-fly zone in effect within that timeframe. See AOPA Online for the full text of the notam ( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#4/1056 ) along with a graphic. The affected landing facilities for Daytona Beach are Daytona Beach International (DAB), Ormond Beach Municipal (OMN), New Smyrna Beach Municipal (EVB), Deland Municipal-Sidney H. Taylor Field (DED), Massey Ranch Airpark (X50), Bob Lee Flight Strip (1J6), Flagler County (X47), Pierson Municipal (2J8), and Orlando Sanford International (SFB). Spruce Creek Fly-In will also be affected. On Monday, the president heads back to Florida. He is scheduled to be in Boca Raton at 5:05 p.m. through 8:50 p.m. local. There will be a 30-nm-radius TFR centered on the FLL VOR's 360-degree radial at 9.9 miles. There will also be two smaller 10-nm-radius GA no-fly zones in effect within that timeframe. See the notam ( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#4/1122 ). The affected landing facilities for Boca Raton are Pompano Beach Airpark (PMP), Fort Lauderdale Executive (FXE), Downtown Fort Lauderdale Heliport (DT1), Boca Raton (BCT), Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International (FLL), North Perry (HWO), Opa Locka (OPF), Palm Beach International (PBI), Miami Heliport (X48), Miami SPB (X44), Miami International (MIA), Opa Locka West (X46), and Palm Beach County Park (LNA). The president will spend Monday night in St. Petersburg. He is slated to visit New Port Richey and the Villages of Oriole on Tuesday. Because TFR airspace frequently changes, AOPA strongly encourages pilots to obtain a briefing and CHECK NOTAMS before every flight. TFR violators will be intercepted and forced to land. -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #4 October 15, 2004 Yep, 30 nautical mile radius. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #5 October 15, 2004 One more reason to hate him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #6 October 15, 2004 if it makes ya feel better i had to work 12 hour shifts this week becauseof him and that drned thing called "homeland security"..........don't understand why theyneeded our fighters, they shold of just used a dz's cessna with skydivers trying to land on a rouge plane.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greene 0 #7 October 15, 2004 Yes, we in Ohio have been shut down for four days on beautiful Saturdays this year. No way around it. You are down until FS says you can go. Go to aopa.org They have a scrolling TFR in red at the top of the screen. Just watch it scroll and then quickly click on your city or area. Not confirmed yet, but Kerry will be in Xenia, Ohio tomorrow, Saturday, and we think we will be under a three mile tfr. :( Skydive Greene County Xenia, Ohio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #8 October 15, 2004 Quote One more reason to hate him That's funny, since if Kerry gets elected, he'll have the same TFR. You might say "no he won't" but very VERY rare is it a president has any say in his personal security. Next time instead of lobbing hateful comments, open your eyes and understand the picture as a whole, it'll keep comments that have no bearing from being posted.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Greene 0 #9 October 15, 2004 The TFR's do not reflect Bush. It will also be in effect for Kerry should he be elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peacefuljeffrey 0 #10 October 16, 2004 QuoteThe President is going to be in Daytona tomorrow, just down the road from Deland. Does anyone know if him being there will shut down jumping in Deland because of the no-fly rule and security reasons? I wouldn't be surprised. I went flying tonight, to re-establish "night currency," and when I was on the phone with Miami Flight Service to get the NOTAMs for Lantana, the guy reminded me that Saturday had TFRs all over the friggin' place (my words, not his) and I thanked him and said I was aware, and that was why I was flying on Friday! It's fucked up, but yeah, every pilot's expected to be aware of the things. If you call 1-800-WX-BRIEF you can ask the flight service technician you speak with about TFRs (Temporary Flight Restrictions) related to the president's travels that might affect you. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tcnelson 1 #11 October 16, 2004 yeah, it's his fault..."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #12 October 16, 2004 QuoteGo to aopa.org Thanks for that link. I saw on tv that there is going to be a blitz on FL and he and Kerry are going to be visiting 12 cities before the election. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dianadiver 0 #13 October 16, 2004 Well, I hear the plane flying right now. But Mike Johnston said they'd probably be shutting down around 2:30 this afternoon and don't know when or if they will restart. Diana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #14 October 16, 2004 Andrea, see if you can sneak on board of AirForce One and make a jumpMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #15 October 16, 2004 QuoteAndrea, see if you can sneak on board of AirForce One and make a jump Yeah, I'll just smile and bat my eyelashes. It works for getting beer, it should work for getting on Air Force One too, right? She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LouDiamond 1 #16 October 16, 2004 Hey, we're jumping in Sebastian.Everyone quit blowing snot bubbles and come on down and have some fun."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #17 October 16, 2004 Tell them you just want to re-live that movie, what was the name of it, where Harrison Ford kicked some ass. Get off my plane! That movie rocked, Harrison was such a hunk.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #18 October 16, 2004 Air Force OneMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rdutch 0 #19 October 17, 2004 We shut down today for him, I got to see a private plane that didnt know take off about 5 minutes before air force one flew in, and within a minute an F15 came in at warp speed and got on his ass, then ten minutes later my friend Teddy came in from atlanta in an otter and he said he got an escort from an irate f16 pilot. Said he heard the whole f15/182 talk and it wasn't too polite. The best day we have had in 6 months, you can see both coasts and there is no wind, and the first time I wanted to fun jump in forever and we have to sit on the ground. At least the day wasnt a total loss, we still have a bar at the dz. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hexadecimal 0 #20 October 19, 2004 QuoteQuote One more reason to hate him That's funny, since if Kerry gets elected, he'll have the same TFR. You might say "no he won't" but very VERY rare is it a president has any say in his personal security. Next time instead of lobbing hateful comments, open your eyes and understand the picture as a whole, it'll keep comments that have no bearing from being posted. I don't like Kerry either. We're screwed either way this coming election. Doesn't matter though, I'll stop talking politics now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhreeZone 20 #21 October 19, 2004 Yay!!! 6 more visits from one of the 4 clowns this year in the next 2 weeks. I think they might as well just get a house here how often they are in town. Cool thing is I get to see AF1 and AF2 fly in from my office window. 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wingnut 0 #6 October 15, 2004 if it makes ya feel better i had to work 12 hour shifts this week becauseof him and that drned thing called "homeland security"..........don't understand why theyneeded our fighters, they shold of just used a dz's cessna with skydivers trying to land on a rouge plane.... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greene 0 #7 October 15, 2004 Yes, we in Ohio have been shut down for four days on beautiful Saturdays this year. No way around it. You are down until FS says you can go. Go to aopa.org They have a scrolling TFR in red at the top of the screen. Just watch it scroll and then quickly click on your city or area. Not confirmed yet, but Kerry will be in Xenia, Ohio tomorrow, Saturday, and we think we will be under a three mile tfr. :( Skydive Greene County Xenia, Ohio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 October 15, 2004 Quote One more reason to hate him That's funny, since if Kerry gets elected, he'll have the same TFR. You might say "no he won't" but very VERY rare is it a president has any say in his personal security. Next time instead of lobbing hateful comments, open your eyes and understand the picture as a whole, it'll keep comments that have no bearing from being posted.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greene 0 #9 October 15, 2004 The TFR's do not reflect Bush. It will also be in effect for Kerry should he be elected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #10 October 16, 2004 QuoteThe President is going to be in Daytona tomorrow, just down the road from Deland. Does anyone know if him being there will shut down jumping in Deland because of the no-fly rule and security reasons? I wouldn't be surprised. I went flying tonight, to re-establish "night currency," and when I was on the phone with Miami Flight Service to get the NOTAMs for Lantana, the guy reminded me that Saturday had TFRs all over the friggin' place (my words, not his) and I thanked him and said I was aware, and that was why I was flying on Friday! It's fucked up, but yeah, every pilot's expected to be aware of the things. If you call 1-800-WX-BRIEF you can ask the flight service technician you speak with about TFRs (Temporary Flight Restrictions) related to the president's travels that might affect you. -Jeffrey-Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #11 October 16, 2004 yeah, it's his fault..."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #12 October 16, 2004 QuoteGo to aopa.org Thanks for that link. I saw on tv that there is going to be a blitz on FL and he and Kerry are going to be visiting 12 cities before the election. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dianadiver 0 #13 October 16, 2004 Well, I hear the plane flying right now. But Mike Johnston said they'd probably be shutting down around 2:30 this afternoon and don't know when or if they will restart. Diana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #14 October 16, 2004 Andrea, see if you can sneak on board of AirForce One and make a jumpMay your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #15 October 16, 2004 QuoteAndrea, see if you can sneak on board of AirForce One and make a jump Yeah, I'll just smile and bat my eyelashes. It works for getting beer, it should work for getting on Air Force One too, right? She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #16 October 16, 2004 Hey, we're jumping in Sebastian.Everyone quit blowing snot bubbles and come on down and have some fun."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #17 October 16, 2004 Tell them you just want to re-live that movie, what was the name of it, where Harrison Ford kicked some ass. Get off my plane! That movie rocked, Harrison was such a hunk.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 October 16, 2004 Air Force OneMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #19 October 17, 2004 We shut down today for him, I got to see a private plane that didnt know take off about 5 minutes before air force one flew in, and within a minute an F15 came in at warp speed and got on his ass, then ten minutes later my friend Teddy came in from atlanta in an otter and he said he got an escort from an irate f16 pilot. Said he heard the whole f15/182 talk and it wasn't too polite. The best day we have had in 6 months, you can see both coasts and there is no wind, and the first time I wanted to fun jump in forever and we have to sit on the ground. At least the day wasnt a total loss, we still have a bar at the dz. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hexadecimal 0 #20 October 19, 2004 QuoteQuote One more reason to hate him That's funny, since if Kerry gets elected, he'll have the same TFR. You might say "no he won't" but very VERY rare is it a president has any say in his personal security. Next time instead of lobbing hateful comments, open your eyes and understand the picture as a whole, it'll keep comments that have no bearing from being posted. I don't like Kerry either. We're screwed either way this coming election. Doesn't matter though, I'll stop talking politics now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #21 October 19, 2004 Yay!!! 6 more visits from one of the 4 clowns this year in the next 2 weeks. I think they might as well just get a house here how often they are in town. Cool thing is I get to see AF1 and AF2 fly in from my office window. No idea what Kerry is on.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
