Darius11 12 #1 October 19, 2004 There are people living in a cave some locked for an eternity some have lived in the out side world for a short time. Now there is no or little hope of ever going to the out side world. 1. Would you rather be a person who had never seen the out side world and be happy in the cave. 2. Would you rather be a person who has experienced the out side world even thou you will never see it again. And yes it is a slow day at the officeI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #2 October 19, 2004 Hm. Interesting question. #2 Why? Because if I have seen the happy place, I can always close my eyes, meditate, and put myself back there. Once you feel happiness you can always draw energy from that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #3 October 19, 2004 This a Plato thing, right? The analogy of the cave? If it is, my college education has finally helped me in the 'real' world. Sweet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #4 October 19, 2004 Yes it is. Would you rather be someone who is happy, but blind to what is out there? Or would you rather have had the experience even if you can never have it again? I like your answer Liz I don’t know the answer to this question my self.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #5 October 19, 2004 Going on the basis that outside the cave isn't necessarily better than inside, I would rather have seen the outside Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #6 October 19, 2004 1. What you don't know, you can't miss. 2. Memories are a valued part of life and a person's make-up. Happiness is within yourself, so if you are happy in your cave would you have to know the outside world? Define happiness and contentment.... Liz (Talking of caves, literally, my brother lived in a cave one summer when he was 16 until him and his mates got evicted due to some environmental issue regarding bats who also shared their living space). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #7 October 19, 2004 Dude, why you trying to make me use my brain? That's just mean. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #8 October 19, 2004 I'd rather contemplate why there is a question mark after the sentence in your subject line. Are you questioning whether or not that is a question? She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #9 October 19, 2004 2Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #10 October 19, 2004 Hey i think by now everyone knows my grammer skills are bad and i can't spell. Why you got to be mean to me?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #11 October 19, 2004 QuoteI like your answer Liz As did I until I realized that she did a wonderful job of skirting the question. She related going outside, even once, with being happy. The question put no 'happy value' on outside. Rather, it made it a point to ask if you would stay inside AND be happy, or experience the outside once. Her answer doesn't actually answer the question. I would venture a guess that most skydivers (myself included) would pick #2, even though it doesn't offer happiness. The reason is most of us are adventure seekers. We wish to try new, untried and untested things, such as jumping from airplanes, or in this case, going outside though nobody else has/will. Less adventurous types will more than likely pick #1, settling for happiness and security/stability over adventure/uncertainty.It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #12 October 19, 2004 QuoteWhy you got to be mean to me Cause Remtard isn't online. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #13 October 19, 2004 Ignorance really is bliss. I don't know which one I'd rather have, but I know that I'd be happier with option 1.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #14 October 19, 2004 QuoteWhy you got to be mean to me? I wasn't being mean, I was just teasing you. Besides, it gives you an opportunity to work on something you're not strong at instead of just ignoring it. If you don't like those answers, then it's because Remi isn't online. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #15 October 19, 2004 Knowing my psychological makeup, If I was #2, I'd wish I was #1. If I was #1, I'd wish I was #2. Ignorance is bliss. Living knowing about the outside would be harder, but I think it would come down to the past. Consider: assume that the person had a lot of hopes for the future, and then was locked in the cave. Living in the cave would be hell. If he had some rough memories from the past, he could either dwell on that and be happy, or use the cave to get away from everything, and rebuild his life differently. If the past was full of good memories, he could either dwell on that and be happy, or be sad that'll he'll never experience anything like that again. The only guranteed happiness is with #1. I think it comes down to, if someone has had a tumultuos psychological past, they'll pick #1; if they've had a very stable psychological past, they'll pick #2.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #16 October 19, 2004 I wasn't being mean, I was just teasing you. Besides, it gives you an opportunity to work on something you're not strong at*** I am not good at seeing boobies always at the wrong place at the right time. Can you help me pleaseI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #17 October 19, 2004 Dude i just have to say This QuoteThe Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. - Hunter S. Thompson Fucking rocks awesome sig line. Nice post too.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #18 October 19, 2004 #2, because having seen seen the outside would help me score with all the chicks that haven't. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #19 October 19, 2004 QuoteQuoteI like your answer Liz As did I until I realized that she did a wonderful job of skirting the question. She related going outside, even once, with being happy. The question put no 'happy value' on outside. Rather, it made it a point to ask if you would stay inside AND be happy, or experience the outside once. Her answer doesn't actually answer the question. Hmmm.... Touche. But in my mind, I did answer the question. You are right in saying that outside does not gaurantee happiness. But I would much rather see that and decide that for myself. If outside was bad, it would help me to appreciate what I have (or don't have to deal with) inside. Either way, for me, knowing is half the battle. There are many things that I have experienced for a short time in my life that I will never see again. For example, lost loved ones. I would never trade my time in with them for anything. A memory, a feeling, a certain energy that you can tap over and over again.... it's worth everything to me. LIVE! Don't hide in the cave and wonder what you are missing outside. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
complexity 0 #20 October 19, 2004 While I hear what others are saying about being able to meditate and find happiness in the memories of the outdoors when now stuck in a cave, I would have to agree with Valerie that ignorance is bliss and I would better be able to handle living in a dark cave if I had no idea what I was missing. sad but true -- i don't know if I could have that inner strength for the rest of my life in a dark, denk cave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
complexity 0 #21 October 19, 2004 Quote There are many things that I have experienced for a short time in my life that I will never see again. For example, lost loved ones. I would never trade my time in with them for anything. A memory, a feeling, a certain energy that you can tap over and over again.... it's worth everything to me. LIVE! Don't hide in the cave and wonder what you are missing outside. but you wouldn't be wondering what you are missing outside because you wouldn't know what you are missing. Its a lot different than knowing what you had and now never having it again. What you don't know, doesn't hurt or help you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #22 October 19, 2004 QuoteIts a lot different than knowing what you had and now never having it again. Yeah, I think that's why I'd lean towards option one. Even decisions that I've made that have hurt me, I'd relive those, and I don't regret them. I've learned something from them, and I can apply it towards future endeavors. When someone dies, it teaches you just how fragile this silly life thing is, and it makes you appreciate your loved ones more. When something bad happens outside of a cave, you can apply what you learned to it there. Having all sorts of good and bad things happen outside of a cave and not being able to grow from it at all while inside a cave...I just wouldn't like that.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #23 October 19, 2004 QuoteQuote There are many things that I have experienced for a short time in my life that I will never see again. For example, lost loved ones. I would never trade my time in with them for anything. A memory, a feeling, a certain energy that you can tap over and over again.... it's worth everything to me. LIVE! Don't hide in the cave and wonder what you are missing outside. but you wouldn't be wondering what you are missing outside because you wouldn't know what you are missing. Its a lot different than knowing what you had and now never having it again. What you don't know, doesn't hurt or help you... Just my philosopy on life. I'm an experience person vs. a materialistic person. You are right, what I don't know won't hurt me or help me. But what I do know WILL help me. I think people answering this question are looking at the negative side of what that glimpse of outside could do. You're worried you'd spend all your time sitting and missing what you once knew. Not me. I'd milk that memory for every bit of positive energy I could. To each their own, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,452 #24 October 19, 2004 We already are living in a cave with no idea of what we are missing. Each and every one of us. Each cave is different, and many of us can see others' caves without being able to see our own. Some people find unbelievable happiness and fulfillment in religion, skiing, school, whatever. Others won't even try them. Wouldn't that be a cave? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites weegegirl 2 #25 October 19, 2004 QuoteWe already are living in a cave with no idea of what we are missing. Each and every one of us. Each cave is different, and many of us can see others' caves without being able to see our own. Some people find unbelievable happiness and fulfillment in religion, skiing, school, whatever. Others won't even try them. Wouldn't that be a cave? Wendy W. Yes. So true. So many people sit there in missory, all the while missing out on so much living they could be doing. Take every opportunity. Don't miss that chance. Take risks. Challenge yourself. Jump off that bridge. Whatever you do... just do it. I feel so bad for people who sit around all their lives saving every penny they can and never going out and doing anything. Cuz in the end... you can't take it with you. All you can take is your memories and experiences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
wmw999 2,452 #24 October 19, 2004 We already are living in a cave with no idea of what we are missing. Each and every one of us. Each cave is different, and many of us can see others' caves without being able to see our own. Some people find unbelievable happiness and fulfillment in religion, skiing, school, whatever. Others won't even try them. Wouldn't that be a cave? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #25 October 19, 2004 QuoteWe already are living in a cave with no idea of what we are missing. Each and every one of us. Each cave is different, and many of us can see others' caves without being able to see our own. Some people find unbelievable happiness and fulfillment in religion, skiing, school, whatever. Others won't even try them. Wouldn't that be a cave? Wendy W. Yes. So true. So many people sit there in missory, all the while missing out on so much living they could be doing. Take every opportunity. Don't miss that chance. Take risks. Challenge yourself. Jump off that bridge. Whatever you do... just do it. I feel so bad for people who sit around all their lives saving every penny they can and never going out and doing anything. Cuz in the end... you can't take it with you. All you can take is your memories and experiences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites