computer people HELP!!!! blocks on web site

[skygod7777 0]

what's up

ok, so on my lap top that i get from my school there is this thing called Bess. it won't let me get on some web sites. like just to check my e-mail and even some web sites with pictures on them.

does anyone know how i can get rid of it?? or get around it??

thanks

[beowulf 1]

Good luck.
If it isn't your laptop then I won't help you disable software that was put on there by the owner to protect their property.

[flyingferret 0]

Sounds like at least partially a proxy product http://www.n2h2.com/products/bess.php?device=how_it_works
If that is the case, there is not much you can do to get around it, because you must traverse their proxy.
Are you at school? Using their connection?

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[AggieDave 6]

Bess? Hahahaha, that's easy.

Just set your gateway and DNS to another known good address or disable them completely. Atleast that's what I did when I was in high school and that was inplace...that was before I telneted to the HS's router...nevermind.

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[JackC 0]

You could try google translate. Just set the options to translate from swahili (or some other unlikely language) to english. The firewall thinks you are going to google and google doesn't translate anything that isn't in swahili, so the website shows up as intended. Net result, no firewall.

If that doesn't work, try a web based proxy server like webwarper or proxify.

[rhino 0]

Go to an anon web surfing site.... Try that way...

[PhreeZone 20]

Sorry.. but the database has almost every proxy blocked. SecureComputing did a major rewrite of the code since you were in school Dave. Bess now contains a local DB and a distributed DB at the gateway level.

Depending on the exact install of the product they can have blocked from any of these categories:

Art/Culture/Heritage
Alcohol
Anonymizers
Anonymizing Utilities
Business
Chat
Computing/Internet
Consumer Information
Criminal Skills
Drugs
Educational/Reference
Entertainment/Recreation/Hobbies
Extreme
Finance
Gambling
Games
Government/Military
Hacking
Health
Humor
Hate Speech
Instant Messaging
Stock Trading
Internet Radio/TV
Job Search
Dating/Personals
Mobile Phone
Media Downloads
Malicious Sites
Usenet News
Nudity
Non-Profit Organizations/Advocacy Groups
General News
Shopping/Merchandizing
Provocative Attire
P2P/Personal Network Storage
Politics/Opinion
Personal Pages
Portal Sites
Remote Access
Religion and Ideology
Resource Sharing
Search Engines
Sports
Streaming Media
Shareware/Freeware
Pornography
Spyware
Tobacco
Travel
Violence
Web Ads
Weapons
Web Mail
Web Phone
Auction
Forum/Bulletin Boards
Profanity
School Cheating Information
Sexual Materials
Tasteless/Gross
Visual Search Engine
For Kids
History
Moderated (exception)
Text/Spoken Only


A decent admin for a school will have blocked about half that list. Even the translators are frequently blocked to to avoid the situation that you are refering to on the local DB and opened on the Gateway. All pictures will still be blocked since Google only passes the URL's for them through and thats where the product comes in at and blockes them.

Only hope is to get the data off port 80 so you'd have to configure a proxy in your browser that is not on port 80 and is online all the time.

No.. I don't know jack about network design, encryption, monitoring or filtering.

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[AggieDave 6]

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SecureComputing did a major rewrite of the code since you were in school Dave

I guess that's a good thing since its been a few years *cough* 6 years *cough* since I graduate high school and even some of the teachers could even get around it (that's saying something, acutally).

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[JackC 0]

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Only hope is to get the data off port 80 so you'd have to configure a proxy in your browser that is not on port 80 and is online all the time.

What about putting a pseudo-proxy server between your browser and the web? Junkbuster or proxomitron for instance?

[flyingferret 0]

Won't do anything if you still have to rely on their proxy as a gateway.
This thing sounds worse that SurfControl, and makes me really glad I don't have to put up with bullshit like that anymore.
Course at netadmin, it would matter much.

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[PhreeZone 20]

Could do that, but you'd still have to configure the proxy since it typically is setup with a transparent authinication agent on the network to actually have the ability to increase or decrease your permissions based on login info. You'd have to make sure the pseudo proxy was transmitting on some obscure port and then you have to hope the network admin does'nt have the firewall set to block all HTTP info on that port. Even trying to proxy out on port 53 here will drop your connection since we filter for outbound HTTP on everything but 80.

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[CrazyIvan 0]

Try using the IP address instead of the URL, sometimes the "proxy guys" block the url but not the IP, give it a shot.

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[PhreeZone 20]

For Bess go to here: http://database.n2h2.com and key in the URL and see what category it falls under.

IP's are hit or miss, issue is that you might get the text but since the HTML almost always refers the pictures by URL odds are they won't display if its a blocked site.

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[wildcard451 0]

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You could try google translate. Just set the options to translate from swahili (or some other unlikely language) to english. The firewall thinks you are going to google and google doesn't translate anything that isn't in swahili, so the website shows up as intended. Net result, no firewall.

hahahahahaha....sweet.....that just let me bypass the filters here in the VA hospitals. Sheesh. Thanks a lot!