Tuna-Salad 0 #1 October 23, 2009 I've never really looked, but do tandem canopies have dive loops on the front risers? (Probably a dumb question)Millions of my potential children died on your daughters' face last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 October 23, 2009 Typically, no. Although I HAVE seen them. There was an Ez-384 that had a set of dive loops on it that I jumped. I pulled on them a couple of times after opening to see what I could do. Well, I'm a fairly stout person and I couldn't get it to do anything. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 28 #3 October 23, 2009 self-made dive-loops are the way to go. just take a shakle with some long cord, tied to a loop, reaching from riser to your feet. attach to risers after opening, step in and off you go YMMV on this edit: NO I haven't tried this stunt! The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuna-Salad 0 #4 October 23, 2009 Quote Typically, no. Although I HAVE seen them. There was an Ez-384 that had a set of dive loops on it that I jumped. I pulled on them a couple of times after opening to see what I could do. Well, I'm a fairly stout person and I couldn't get it to do anything. Dave is my hero.. he always has an answer for everything... ( I can relate to what you said about tugging on the loops.. under big ass 260 student canopy I would lift myself out of the harness almost ) Only on a 210 can I actually do riser dives and even then I cannot hold them very longMillions of my potential children died on your daughters' face last night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fledgling 0 #5 October 23, 2009 Typically no. Every one already knows toggle hooks are a much safer way of turning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 October 23, 2009 No. I have never seen front riser dive loops on a tandem. The problem is that tandems are so big and so heavily front-loaded that I have never been able to pull down a front riser by hand, not even with a 100 pound Japanese girl on the front. Meanwhile I can do rear riser turns and rear riser flares with smaller students. Riser pressure and toggle pressure increase rapidly as student weight increases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #7 October 26, 2009 Quote Every one already knows toggle hooks are a much safer way of turning. Dirty low hookers are my favorite... Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fledgling 0 #8 October 26, 2009 Quote Quote Every one already knows toggle hooks are a much safer way of turning. Dirty low hookers are my favorite... What do you mean low? It's never too low for a hook turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #9 October 26, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Every one already knows toggle hooks are a much safer way of turning. Dirty low hookers are my favorite... What do you mean low? It's never too low for a hook turn. It's never too low for a hook turn, but it's the surviving part that matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 164 #10 October 26, 2009 Quote I've never really looked, but do tandem canopies have dive loops on the front risers? (Probably a dumb question) Not that I know of... But backing up one day directly over the tree line and looking back at nothing but miles of woods... I climbed up the fronts even without them...Don't know how effective it was, but it made me feel better doing something right about then... JWAlways remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phantomII 37 #11 October 26, 2009 The PdF Atom Tandem has something like diveloops. If you pull them down they stay down and you have to release them so that the riser goes up again. Can save your ass on really windy days Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milehighpres 0 #12 October 28, 2009 my mil spec sigma tandems have front riser trim loops...pull on them and the shackle friction locks it in place til you release the friction lock...400-425sq ft canopies suspended weight is very heavy"the sky is not the limit....the ground is" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
