Rebecca 0 #1 October 4, 2004 Hey you fitness freaks! I wanna be one too, so I've joined a gym. I have my first trainer session this evening, and want to know, aside from drinking plenty of water and stretching, is there anything I can do to minimize what will surely be a lot of pain tomorrow? I'm fat and flabby and now that I've quit smoking for a year, it's time to get in shape!! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #2 October 4, 2004 Take it slow...don't push too hard...be consistent...get in shape. It will take time but will also get better. Drink lots of water and eat right. Edited to add: DON'T QUIT!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #3 October 4, 2004 Ok, like I should be giving fitness advice to anyone, but here goes . . . I know one thing for sure-- if you work out hard enough, you will be sore. But the next day you have to play through the pain, as well as the day after that, etc. After the first week or so, you'll notice a HUGE difference in how sore you are compared to when you first started. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Girlfalldown 0 #4 October 4, 2004 If your trainer is any good you won't hurt tomorrow. They should know how to NOT let you over-do it. The stretching and water is a great idea though. It always helps me. Congrats on quitting smoking and joining the gym! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveNFlorida 0 #5 October 4, 2004 QuoteHey you fitness freaks! I wanna be one too, so I've joined a gym. I have my first trainer session this evening, and want to know, aside from drinking plenty of water and stretching, is there anything I can do to minimize what will surely be a lot of pain tomorrow? I'm fat and flabby and now that I've quit smoking for a year, it's time to get in shape!! I'm not a fitness freak, but the only cure to soreness, ime, is to work out more often. If you just did your first today, go back when the pain is bearable or in 3 days, whichever comes first. And, a nice hot epsom salt bath is really nice for sore muscles:) Angela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #6 October 4, 2004 QuoteTake it slow...don't push too hard...be consistent...get in shape. It will take time but will also get better. Well, I plunked down the $$ for a year membership, so I can't back out now... QuoteDrink lots of water and eat right. Whoa!! Slow down there hoss - I'm drinking lots of water, but I don't want to rush into the eating right - gotta phase out the queso... Mmmmmmmm quesoooo.... QuoteEdited to add: DON'T QUIT!!! I haven't even started, but my goal is to see abs, not just feel them under their protective, insulative roly-poly fat. Thanks for the advice!! You too, Kel! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #7 October 4, 2004 you've already covered the basics.. but you should have a nice light soreness the day after a good workout... as you get more in shape that will be the feeling you learn to enjoy... much like a deep massage its a GOOD pain.... "pain is weakness leaving the body" -a way overused line by drills everywhere, but it's true to a certain extent...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #8 October 4, 2004 Ooh! Epsom salt! Forgot about that one! Yeah, I know I just need to plow this adjustment from sedentary lazybutt to buttkicking energy generator. Ugh, it's gonna take forever! Thanks Angela and GFD! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyinghonu 0 #9 October 4, 2004 STRETCH!!! Do it before and after. I also do a quick 5 min stretch session before I go to bed - Try it, you'll notice a huge difference in how less tight (and sore) your muscles are the next day. And then all that other stuff too! "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #10 October 4, 2004 I actually DO like it when I feel sore from skydiving or a bike ride. I do NOT like it when it hurts too much to walk... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #11 October 4, 2004 best cure for sore muscles is more of what made them sore. keep at it. in a few weeks, it'll hurt less, as you get used to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SarahC07 0 #12 October 4, 2004 Okay, here are my thoughts... The more consistently you do things (on a regular basis) the less painful it will become. A beginning runner will probably be sore after the first day or running, regardless... I have also been told (don't know if its true or not): That your body burns even more calories repairing muscles that you have hurt or damaged. So, sore muscles are not totally bad. However I'm sure you could seriously injure yourself.... so... I have no idea. I like mildly sore muscles... I'm a fitness person, in that I exercise habitually ... I don't study it. My routine: warm up, stretch, warm-up, run, cool down, stretch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Girlfalldown 0 #13 October 4, 2004 Quotebest cure for sore muscles is more of what made them sore. keep at it. in a few weeks, it'll hurt less, as you get used to it. So you're saying sex? -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #14 October 4, 2004 Quotebest cure for sore muscles is more of what made them sore. keep at it. in a few weeks, it'll hurt less, as you get used to it. Yeah, but it's tomorrow I'm concerned about. At least it'll be its own reward once I get going though! Thanks Honu, I'll be stretching as much as effective! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,485 #15 October 4, 2004 As someone who limits her exercise to that which won't make her too sore, I'll chime in here too After you're done, keep moving -- the more you move during the rest of the day (e.g. take the farthest parking spot and walk in, walk a couple of blocks to lunch, etc), the more you're keeping your muscles moving, and the less they'll hurt overall. You'll feel tired, but that beats pain in my book. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #16 October 4, 2004 QuoteI actually DO like it when I feel sore from skydiving or a bike ride. I do NOT like it when it hurts too much to walk... that means you over did it... like anything take it slow and work your way into it... a good trainer will help you do this at a pace natural for you... of course if your primarily concerned about seeing those abs, its aerobic you should be focused on first, although weight training will help you build muscle which in turn burns calories.... running etc.. and diet... you shouldnt be getting "cant walk sore" from aerobic activity.... "push the envelope, watch it bend" ... when you hurt that bad.. you broke it... (something i need to get back to as well... i'm getting pudge sitting to much, waiting for my leg to heal, and its hard to 'ramp down' from what my mind thinks i should be able to do, but my body isnt ready to yet....)____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #17 October 4, 2004 warm up BEFORE you stretch. five minutes on a bike or elliptical is good. Stretch. find out from your trainer what muscle groups you'll be working and concentrate on those After your workout, stretch again. drink a glass of milk within an hour after your workout. dunno why it helps but it does. then, take a hot bath and an aleve before you go to bed, and again in the morning if you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #18 October 4, 2004 most important thing: Warm up!!! If I start running, but only stretch and no warm-up, my legs definitely feel it. In fact, last year I injured my upper thigh area from running, because I ran further than what my body was used to. So, make sure you do a general warm-up for 5 min like walking, then do another 5 minute warm up doing the specific exercise you plan on doing for cardio....and afterwards MAKE sure you cool down and do some nice stretching. Trust me, at my school they make you take HPE(health and fitness) I and II, take an HPE activity class every semester, and do a field test EVERY semester...in addition to making you get 50 "aerobic" points every week. It's great though, freshman year I could run 6 miles a day! btw, good job on trying to get in shape, you'll look and feel great.!!! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skymama 37 #19 October 4, 2004 QuoteI haven't even started, but my goal is to see abs, not just feel them under their protective, insulative roly-poly fat. Just remember that if you have some fat over your ab muscles, you're never going to see them if you keep the fat. You gotta lose that too! Trust me, I'm working on that too right now and am following The Abs Diet. It's hard work! (Where's the crying/whining icon when you need it? )She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveNFlorida 0 #20 October 4, 2004 Quotethen, take a hot bath and an aleve before you go to bed, and again in the morning if you need. Don't overdo pain meds if you can help it. They are REALLY harsh on your stomach. Angela (who has 5 ulcers and used to take advil and aleve all the time!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,485 #21 October 4, 2004 My goal is to feel like I did when I was 30 -- able to do pretty much whatever I wanted to, whenever I wanted to, without feeling like I needed to warm up beforehand or get into it slowly. Within reason, obviously. For instance, moving furniture for a day should leave me tired, not so sore that I can't go to the DZ the next day. I know I have abs in there somewhere, and that's fine with me as long as they do what they're supposed to. Ab away, little buddies Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rebecca 0 #22 October 4, 2004 QuoteJust remember that if you have some fat over your ab muscles, you're never going to see them if you keep the fat. You gotta lose that too! Oh, I know! Believe me, I know. Keep up the hard work, Mama!! Thanks everyone! I'm off to my first session now - I've had plenty of water, a CarbWell bar with 10g of protein (half hour ago), I'm gonna warm up, stretch, not overdo it, stretch some more, drink milk, bathe in epsom salt, take an Aleve, and see how I feel in the morning!! See you then! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Casurf1978 0 #23 October 4, 2004 First off congrats on joining a gym. Secondly what Pajarito said sums it up. Take it slow, warm up before exerciseing, drink lots of water, eat right, and REST. Also there is a huge difference between pain and soreness. Basically what you will experience is called Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, DOMS for short. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tweak 0 #24 October 4, 2004 I used to be a bodybuilder sooo here's my input: When you first start a workout routine, start off slow and work up to a more vigorous workout. NEVER workout the same muscle group when it's still sore. I've heard a lot of people say keep working them out and the soreness will go away. This is simply not true. If you keep working a muscle that's sore and it takes 4 or 5 days (depending on how hard you worked the muscle) to recover, it probably would have been fine after just a couple of days. A lot of people think the soreness is a build up of acid in the muscle, actually when you work a muscle strenuously you create very small tears in the muscle. This causes a slight traumatization of the muscle and this is the soreness you feel. If you keep working the muscle you are only making matters worse. Another problem with working a sore muscle is you will be more prone to injuries. I pushed a back workout one time when my back muscles were still a little sore and wasn't quite ready to be worked again and ended up tearing muscle (couldn't hardly open a door for a week or two). I've never really taken anything for the pain after workouts, but when I do I take Aleive. I asked my pharmacist what's the best thing for post workout soreness and she told me Aleive was better than aspirin, tylenol and Ibuprofen. I forgot exactly what the reasons were, but I took her work for it and it seems to work pretty well when I have to take it. Just my 2 cents, but if you need a second opinion ask some of the regulars around the gym. They are ususally always helpful to new people and very willing to help. When I first started working out at a real gym, I watched the hard core guys that were in there every day and asked for advice on training and techniques and learned basically everything from them. Also, depending on the size of the gym, there's usually one or two people that work there hanging around that are usually certified personal trainers and they can be very helpful as well. Hope this helps and hope I didn't bore you to death with too much detail. Congrats on getting into the gym. If you want to get good results stick with it, adopt a healthy diet and make it part of your lifestyle. -Trey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brits17 0 #25 October 4, 2004 Good luck with Rebecca and let us know how it goes, I need a running partner from time to time Anyway, Tweak nailed it on the head. Soreness isn't bad, but don't work out a sore muscle. You'll probably be doing a lot of cardio and core strengthening before you start weightlifting and toning. This will prevent overworking certain muscle groups, injuries, and eases you into a good workout routine. If a muscle is sore, ice for 10 minutes to reduce the inflamed muscle, and then use heat if you want to improve circulation. _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Girlfalldown 0 #4 October 4, 2004 If your trainer is any good you won't hurt tomorrow. They should know how to NOT let you over-do it. The stretching and water is a great idea though. It always helps me. Congrats on quitting smoking and joining the gym! -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #5 October 4, 2004 QuoteHey you fitness freaks! I wanna be one too, so I've joined a gym. I have my first trainer session this evening, and want to know, aside from drinking plenty of water and stretching, is there anything I can do to minimize what will surely be a lot of pain tomorrow? I'm fat and flabby and now that I've quit smoking for a year, it's time to get in shape!! I'm not a fitness freak, but the only cure to soreness, ime, is to work out more often. If you just did your first today, go back when the pain is bearable or in 3 days, whichever comes first. And, a nice hot epsom salt bath is really nice for sore muscles:) Angela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #6 October 4, 2004 QuoteTake it slow...don't push too hard...be consistent...get in shape. It will take time but will also get better. Well, I plunked down the $$ for a year membership, so I can't back out now... QuoteDrink lots of water and eat right. Whoa!! Slow down there hoss - I'm drinking lots of water, but I don't want to rush into the eating right - gotta phase out the queso... Mmmmmmmm quesoooo.... QuoteEdited to add: DON'T QUIT!!! I haven't even started, but my goal is to see abs, not just feel them under their protective, insulative roly-poly fat. Thanks for the advice!! You too, Kel! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #7 October 4, 2004 you've already covered the basics.. but you should have a nice light soreness the day after a good workout... as you get more in shape that will be the feeling you learn to enjoy... much like a deep massage its a GOOD pain.... "pain is weakness leaving the body" -a way overused line by drills everywhere, but it's true to a certain extent...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #8 October 4, 2004 Ooh! Epsom salt! Forgot about that one! Yeah, I know I just need to plow this adjustment from sedentary lazybutt to buttkicking energy generator. Ugh, it's gonna take forever! Thanks Angela and GFD! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinghonu 0 #9 October 4, 2004 STRETCH!!! Do it before and after. I also do a quick 5 min stretch session before I go to bed - Try it, you'll notice a huge difference in how less tight (and sore) your muscles are the next day. And then all that other stuff too! "Excuse me while I kiss the sky..." - Jimi Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #10 October 4, 2004 I actually DO like it when I feel sore from skydiving or a bike ride. I do NOT like it when it hurts too much to walk... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #11 October 4, 2004 best cure for sore muscles is more of what made them sore. keep at it. in a few weeks, it'll hurt less, as you get used to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC07 0 #12 October 4, 2004 Okay, here are my thoughts... The more consistently you do things (on a regular basis) the less painful it will become. A beginning runner will probably be sore after the first day or running, regardless... I have also been told (don't know if its true or not): That your body burns even more calories repairing muscles that you have hurt or damaged. So, sore muscles are not totally bad. However I'm sure you could seriously injure yourself.... so... I have no idea. I like mildly sore muscles... I'm a fitness person, in that I exercise habitually ... I don't study it. My routine: warm up, stretch, warm-up, run, cool down, stretch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Girlfalldown 0 #13 October 4, 2004 Quotebest cure for sore muscles is more of what made them sore. keep at it. in a few weeks, it'll hurt less, as you get used to it. So you're saying sex? -------------- (Do not, I repeat DO NOT, take my posts seriously.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #14 October 4, 2004 Quotebest cure for sore muscles is more of what made them sore. keep at it. in a few weeks, it'll hurt less, as you get used to it. Yeah, but it's tomorrow I'm concerned about. At least it'll be its own reward once I get going though! Thanks Honu, I'll be stretching as much as effective! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,485 #15 October 4, 2004 As someone who limits her exercise to that which won't make her too sore, I'll chime in here too After you're done, keep moving -- the more you move during the rest of the day (e.g. take the farthest parking spot and walk in, walk a couple of blocks to lunch, etc), the more you're keeping your muscles moving, and the less they'll hurt overall. You'll feel tired, but that beats pain in my book. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #16 October 4, 2004 QuoteI actually DO like it when I feel sore from skydiving or a bike ride. I do NOT like it when it hurts too much to walk... that means you over did it... like anything take it slow and work your way into it... a good trainer will help you do this at a pace natural for you... of course if your primarily concerned about seeing those abs, its aerobic you should be focused on first, although weight training will help you build muscle which in turn burns calories.... running etc.. and diet... you shouldnt be getting "cant walk sore" from aerobic activity.... "push the envelope, watch it bend" ... when you hurt that bad.. you broke it... (something i need to get back to as well... i'm getting pudge sitting to much, waiting for my leg to heal, and its hard to 'ramp down' from what my mind thinks i should be able to do, but my body isnt ready to yet....)____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #17 October 4, 2004 warm up BEFORE you stretch. five minutes on a bike or elliptical is good. Stretch. find out from your trainer what muscle groups you'll be working and concentrate on those After your workout, stretch again. drink a glass of milk within an hour after your workout. dunno why it helps but it does. then, take a hot bath and an aleve before you go to bed, and again in the morning if you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #18 October 4, 2004 most important thing: Warm up!!! If I start running, but only stretch and no warm-up, my legs definitely feel it. In fact, last year I injured my upper thigh area from running, because I ran further than what my body was used to. So, make sure you do a general warm-up for 5 min like walking, then do another 5 minute warm up doing the specific exercise you plan on doing for cardio....and afterwards MAKE sure you cool down and do some nice stretching. Trust me, at my school they make you take HPE(health and fitness) I and II, take an HPE activity class every semester, and do a field test EVERY semester...in addition to making you get 50 "aerobic" points every week. It's great though, freshman year I could run 6 miles a day! btw, good job on trying to get in shape, you'll look and feel great.!!! Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 37 #19 October 4, 2004 QuoteI haven't even started, but my goal is to see abs, not just feel them under their protective, insulative roly-poly fat. Just remember that if you have some fat over your ab muscles, you're never going to see them if you keep the fat. You gotta lose that too! Trust me, I'm working on that too right now and am following The Abs Diet. It's hard work! (Where's the crying/whining icon when you need it? )She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #20 October 4, 2004 Quotethen, take a hot bath and an aleve before you go to bed, and again in the morning if you need. Don't overdo pain meds if you can help it. They are REALLY harsh on your stomach. Angela (who has 5 ulcers and used to take advil and aleve all the time!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,485 #21 October 4, 2004 My goal is to feel like I did when I was 30 -- able to do pretty much whatever I wanted to, whenever I wanted to, without feeling like I needed to warm up beforehand or get into it slowly. Within reason, obviously. For instance, moving furniture for a day should leave me tired, not so sore that I can't go to the DZ the next day. I know I have abs in there somewhere, and that's fine with me as long as they do what they're supposed to. Ab away, little buddies Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #22 October 4, 2004 QuoteJust remember that if you have some fat over your ab muscles, you're never going to see them if you keep the fat. You gotta lose that too! Oh, I know! Believe me, I know. Keep up the hard work, Mama!! Thanks everyone! I'm off to my first session now - I've had plenty of water, a CarbWell bar with 10g of protein (half hour ago), I'm gonna warm up, stretch, not overdo it, stretch some more, drink milk, bathe in epsom salt, take an Aleve, and see how I feel in the morning!! See you then! you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #23 October 4, 2004 First off congrats on joining a gym. Secondly what Pajarito said sums it up. Take it slow, warm up before exerciseing, drink lots of water, eat right, and REST. Also there is a huge difference between pain and soreness. Basically what you will experience is called Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, DOMS for short. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweak 0 #24 October 4, 2004 I used to be a bodybuilder sooo here's my input: When you first start a workout routine, start off slow and work up to a more vigorous workout. NEVER workout the same muscle group when it's still sore. I've heard a lot of people say keep working them out and the soreness will go away. This is simply not true. If you keep working a muscle that's sore and it takes 4 or 5 days (depending on how hard you worked the muscle) to recover, it probably would have been fine after just a couple of days. A lot of people think the soreness is a build up of acid in the muscle, actually when you work a muscle strenuously you create very small tears in the muscle. This causes a slight traumatization of the muscle and this is the soreness you feel. If you keep working the muscle you are only making matters worse. Another problem with working a sore muscle is you will be more prone to injuries. I pushed a back workout one time when my back muscles were still a little sore and wasn't quite ready to be worked again and ended up tearing muscle (couldn't hardly open a door for a week or two). I've never really taken anything for the pain after workouts, but when I do I take Aleive. I asked my pharmacist what's the best thing for post workout soreness and she told me Aleive was better than aspirin, tylenol and Ibuprofen. I forgot exactly what the reasons were, but I took her work for it and it seems to work pretty well when I have to take it. Just my 2 cents, but if you need a second opinion ask some of the regulars around the gym. They are ususally always helpful to new people and very willing to help. When I first started working out at a real gym, I watched the hard core guys that were in there every day and asked for advice on training and techniques and learned basically everything from them. Also, depending on the size of the gym, there's usually one or two people that work there hanging around that are usually certified personal trainers and they can be very helpful as well. Hope this helps and hope I didn't bore you to death with too much detail. Congrats on getting into the gym. If you want to get good results stick with it, adopt a healthy diet and make it part of your lifestyle. -Trey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #25 October 4, 2004 Good luck with Rebecca and let us know how it goes, I need a running partner from time to time Anyway, Tweak nailed it on the head. Soreness isn't bad, but don't work out a sore muscle. You'll probably be doing a lot of cardio and core strengthening before you start weightlifting and toning. This will prevent overworking certain muscle groups, injuries, and eases you into a good workout routine. If a muscle is sore, ice for 10 minutes to reduce the inflamed muscle, and then use heat if you want to improve circulation. _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
