blackwidow 0 #1 September 12, 2004 Mystery jet... The attached photos were passed onto me by a friend. Can you name the aircraft? I was told what it was, but I'm not sure I believe it. Hoax? Sorry if this is a repost. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudynot 0 #2 September 12, 2004 a stealth? Clouds are cool to move through but not if they are NOT jumpable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #3 September 12, 2004 Looks like a PS-56 or PhotoShop-56 __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 36 #4 September 12, 2004 The photos may be real, but the jet is not. The photos are clips from an upcoming motion picture titled "Stealth" Read all about it here. The pilot, shown in the one photo, Lt. Kara Wade, is actress Jessica Biel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackwidow 0 #5 September 12, 2004 Yup... found the same. Thx. Here's the scoop --> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/fa-37.htm http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/fa37talon.html http://www.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=48;t=000397;p=1 Damn nice looking anyway... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #6 September 12, 2004 It has to be fictional-There's a female in the cockpit Oh, not my real opinion, just stirring the stewI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ypelchat 0 #7 September 12, 2004 QuoteIt has to be fictional-There's a female in the cockpit < Yves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 September 12, 2004 I was interested in the movie until I read the plot line. What a tired old plot line.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudynot 0 #9 September 12, 2004 QuoteI was interested in the movie until I read the plot line. What a tired old plot line. I have to agree with you Aggiedave, seems lame Clouds are cool to move through but not if they are NOT jumpable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #10 September 12, 2004 looks like a heavly modified YF-23 Black Widow II http://www.voodoo.cz/yf23/gal1.htmlI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #11 September 12, 2004 In fact you can even see the movie camera in one of the last pictures._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #12 September 12, 2004 QuoteIt has to be fictional-There's a female in the cockpit No, but the same pic tells you its obviously fictional. No wet behind the ears LT. is going to be piloting anything experimental or super classified. For those kind of assignments, Lt. Col. is seems to be the minimum rank. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 September 12, 2004 The giveaway should have been the 35mm movie camera in the bottom of the 4th photo.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1 0 #14 September 12, 2004 As Dr. Evil would say. RRRRIIIIGGGHHHTTTT. Typical Hollywood. Notice the airscoop right behind the cockpit window. Would that possibly be an air feed. I think not for Mach speed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 September 12, 2004 So, I'm guessing you've never seen the STOVL variant of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter? There's an airscoop that opens up for Harrier type operations; short takeoff and vertical landings. The airscoop closes for horizontal Mach cruise ops. If anything, I'd say that's a credible addition to a mythical stealth aircraft that operates in carrier ops.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gremlin 0 #16 September 12, 2004 I wish to name the aircraft - Duncan. I think that is a very fitting name for it. I'm drunk, you're drunk, lets go back to mine.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #17 September 12, 2004 QuoteIt has to be fictional-There's a female in the cockpit heh, we know it's a movie, but in that same pic you can make out that she's wearing a standard jumpsuit and a non-standard helmet. No G-suit? No oxygen feed? Wow! A supersonic fighter flown by a superhuman that doesn't need oxygen over 3 miles up.... hehIt's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunBobby 0 #18 September 12, 2004 QuoteThe photos may be real, but the jet is not. The photos are clips from an upcoming motion picture titled "Stealth" Read all about it here. The pilot, shown in the one photo, Lt. Kara Wade, is actress Jessica Biel. To help prepare for the flim and better understand the psyche and character of carrier tacair pilots, Jessica Biel spent several days last December in Lemoore, CA with the Vigilantes of Strike Fighter Squadron 151. She didn't actually get to fly a jet, but spent time in the simulators, hanging out with squadron aviators, and even sending a few rounds downrange on the base's small arms training range. She created quite a stir, as you may imagine. FunBobby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBKid 0 #19 September 12, 2004 QuoteNo G-suit? No oxygen feed? Wow! A supersonic fighter flown by a superhuman that doesn't need oxygen over 3 miles up.... heh Of course the pilot doesn't need these things - it's a woman! If my Mum can hold six plates at 400F temperature without oven gloves, casually remarking that they're "a bit warm", then I'm sure she could fly that thing, even if it doesn't exist! Nick --------------------------- "I've pierced my foot on a spike!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #20 September 12, 2004 QuoteQuoteNo G-suit? No oxygen feed? Wow! A supersonic fighter flown by a superhuman that doesn't need oxygen over 3 miles up.... heh Of course the pilot doesn't need these things - it's a woman! Point well taken! Hell, women are so damn tough, I'm surprised they even fly ram-air parachutes. Them are for sissys. Give 'em a few T10's. heh It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #21 September 13, 2004 Just saw this thread. Interesting. The aircraft is fictional. It's a mock-up. Check out the tie-downs attatching it to the deck from it's landing gear. The gaps and screw holes on this stealth plane are also a dead giveaway it's bogus. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el_chester 4 #22 September 22, 2004 the truth has been revealed in previous posts. still, from just looking at the pictures: i work on the visual effects industry and my take on this is: BOGUS!!!!!!!!!! Visual effects giveaways: - pic 1 - the texturing seems too cg-like on the tail ruddsr/stabiliser, - pic 2 - nice comp!: nice vapour, at least as a still frame. this is what helps sell a comp, environmental interaction between cg, environment (smke, fog, frelections) and live footage. -pic 3- The most obvious giveaway is the glass on pic 3. It's what we call a pre-comp. This glass still lacks it's real-life characteristica like reflections, refractions. For now it's a transparent white layer! This HAS to be work in progress. And usually I'd guess a sky replacement is in the way for the final comp as well. -pic 4- check out the shadow of the airplane vs. the shadow of the guy in the green vest running away from it. do they seem to be in the same light environment to you? to me they did the shadow for the cg plane a bit too black. this would probably still pass in a final comp. no-one has the time to analyse such things real time while watching a movie, and compositors/wisual effects supervisors know it, so the get away with these incongruencies as long as they don't look to obvious. Aerodinamics/technical giveaways (and I'm no expert, but we all kind of know a bit about this): - pic 1 - the control surfaces atr on the leading edge of the wing? seems to me like they could get flipped over. - pic 2- air intakes for the engines seem a bit small to my eyes - pic 3 -what the heck is behind the cockpit cover? That's not an air intake, but much rather an airflow-disturbing design "feature" -where's the hinge for the cockpit cover? - pic 4 - the guys in the FG aren't wearing ear-covers - not likely... -- Be careful giving advice. Wise men don't need it, and fools won't heed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #23 September 22, 2004 It's a hollywood-ified version of the "switchblade" (Northrop Grumman) aircraft. These photos have been floating around the company for a while now. I always though the most obvious problem with the photos is the US Air Force markings on a plane that's sitting on the deck of an aircraft carrier... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 80 #24 September 22, 2004 Quote- pic 1 - the control surfaces atr on the leading edge of the wing? seems to me like they could get flipped over... This is obviously bogus, but the wings are equally obviously still 'folded' forward in pic 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #25 September 22, 2004 QuoteAerodinamics/technical giveaways (and I'm no expert, but we all kind of know a bit about this): - pic 1 - the control surfaces atr on the leading edge of the wing? seems to me like they could get flipped over. With today's computers, fly-by-wire, and dynamic control systems... if you can get it going fast enough to produce lift, it can be made to fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites