Michele 1 #1 September 8, 2004 So I was watching the NASA live footage of the re-entry of the Sun cylinder which was capturing atomic information from around the Sun (I may not have got that correctly...) I didn't see the drogue deploy, and then the cylinder crashed to the ground. No deployment of the main parachute at all. It was supposed to be similar to a RAM air, about 34 feet long (dunno the sqft, nor "loading"...) if I understood it correctly, and there were helicopters waiting to "hook" it out of the sky. The pilots had practiced for years, and were confident about plucking it out of the sky. But... Well, there wasn't any main to hook. I wonder if the w/l combined with the speed of reentry blew the drogue/main? Sad...but they say not all of the science is lost. How much of it remains is still to be seen. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #2 September 8, 2004 looks like the sun cylinder didn't go over it's safety procedures. but i found it funny how there was this big hype about it and how these pilots have been practicing and all, only to have the chute not open. hahaha...cheers to NASA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #3 September 8, 2004 Dunno what the message is... Should'a bought a CYPRES or Never rely on your CYPRES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #4 September 8, 2004 sooo, even experts can pack a mal now and then. this was just a real expensive one. i wonder why they didn't have a reserve?"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #5 September 8, 2004 That sucks I just saw it was coming in. Watching the impact scene now. Not prettyI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #6 September 8, 2004 How about a link to the footage? "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #7 September 8, 2004 fark link"Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #8 September 8, 2004 QuoteHow about a link to the footage? http://www.genesismission.org and click the Nasa TV thingyit's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #9 September 8, 2004 I think some packer owes NASA $5 for that sloppy pack job. __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #10 September 8, 2004 Quotefark link HAHAHA it's just this peice of metal in a crater....they believe there was a capsole malfuction duh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #11 September 8, 2004 I guess a charge to failed to go off to deploy . They are saying they may have a HOT probe in the groundI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #12 September 8, 2004 The drogue was deployed by a 'mortar'?? Is that what I heard? They shoulda talked to Bill Booth, I'll be he could have come up with a better idea!it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #13 September 8, 2004 QuoteI think some packer owes NASA $5 for that sloppy pack job. Must have been bad body position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #14 September 8, 2004 QuoteThe drogue was deployed by a 'mortar'?? Is that what I heard? you heard correctly. they think that the drouge deployed but was ripped away from the cylinder because of the "sheer velocity" and that's why it crashed. those scientists are slowly making their way to the cylinder aren't they...wait i think someone just touched it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #15 September 8, 2004 any one got some inside info on who designed the deployment mechanism and drogue and parachute setup? "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 September 8, 2004 This should make it perfectly clear to everyone that you MUST be careful about how you store your gear. In space, orbiting close to the sun followed by an atmospheric re-entry is number one on the list of bad places.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dixieskydiver 0 #17 September 8, 2004 They should have static-lined it off the space station! Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 September 8, 2004 I wonder what the deployment speeds are for this. Why'd they choose a RAM air? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #19 September 8, 2004 Eh, it's no big deal. $260 million mistakes, sound about right for NASA. This definately isn't going to be a selling point for them at the budget meeting though... hehe... "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #20 September 8, 2004 Very curious if their able to salvage any of the collected "particles" for research. Also, could they have just exposed the world some new alien virus? C'mon you know those aliens, they've sapped my motivation, tried to steal my beer. Who knows what else they could be up too. "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #21 September 8, 2004 QuoteAlso, could they have just exposed the world some new alien virus? Yeah, just like in the movie "EVOLUTION" __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slappie 9 #22 September 8, 2004 QuoteQuoteAlso, could they have just exposed the world some new alien virus? Yeah, just like in the movie "EVOLUTION" Damn dude!! Ivan are you sure you're not one of "them"? "Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #23 September 8, 2004 QuoteDamn dude!! Ivan are you sure you're not one of "them"? I come in peace __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #24 September 8, 2004 QuoteQuoteDamn dude!! Ivan are you sure you're not one of "them"? I come in peace time to get out my head and shoulders Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #25 September 8, 2004 QuoteEh, it's no big deal. $260 million mistakes, sound about right for NASA. This definately isn't going to be a selling point for them at the budget meeting though... hehe... This happened a while ago, on a Mars mission. Well it seems Nasa or someone at JPL made all the calculations in meters, BUT programmed the rover in feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
