quade 4 #26 August 11, 2004 Quote Heh. That's code for him not knowing why. No. That's code for, "I've written about this a lot of times already. Go look it up so I don't have to write it yet again."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #27 August 11, 2004 Link it !!! It would save so much hassle uh oh Bye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #28 August 11, 2004 Quote I fully expected someone to say this being how everyone on these forums is so contradictive. Give me a break. You could weigh 800 lbs and hit the ball from the same spot. When I was stationed in Virginia there was this bar in Virginia Beach we used to frequent. In the back they actually had table tennis set up in the back near the darts, pool and foosball. There was a guy who weighed close to 300 lbs and was awesome. He was a freak. Hardly anyone beat him. So yes, fat people can play table tennis and very well. Did you actually watch the tournament? I used to date a man that was trying out for the US table tennis team. To say we was amazing was an understatement. He actually lifted weights to prepare for tournaments. He did hand eye coordination drills multiple times a day and had a personal coach to practice with. I doubt your bar drinking friend, who weighs 300 lbs. could say he's done that. There are fat men that play football and baseball too - but does that make them olympic quality? I don't think so. You shouldn't be so judgemental before you know all the ins and outs on a subject. That must be a guy thing... JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #29 August 11, 2004 Ping pong is capable of having a fat man be a top player. Period. You can bring up your boyfriend being good at ping pong all you want. Doesn't change anything. Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mailin 0 #30 August 11, 2004 QuotePing pong is capable of having a fat man be a top player. And you know this because youknow all the 'top players'? No? Didn't think so. Stop over generalizing - it's not particularly intellectually becoming. JenArianna Frances Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #31 August 11, 2004 This is borderline Speakers Corner, which I left because of precisely these types of arguments. The callousness of this post really shook me though, so I'll risk it and answer. QuoteHow long has this been a sport? Since forever. QuoteAnd for the love of God why?!?!?!?!?! Because it's really difficult to do it well and it's very easy to make it competitve. QuoteCall me old-fashioned but no sport should be in the olympics if a fat man can play it. You're old-fashioned. There are a lot of sports that fat men can compete in that you would really suck at. Like chess, or competitive mathematics. Ten times more useful to society than throwing very large metal balls or running really quickly for short periods of time, too. Most sports, including skydiving, serve no practical purpose other than marketing tools and, perhaps, testosterone release for overcompetitive alpha males. All other benefits are either subjective and only apply to participants, or very marginal and indirect. By the way, fat men can compete in skydiving. It really bugs me sometimes how the "real" men look down on certain sports in particular, and human pursuits in general. I want to see some of these "real" men write a Putnam or play chess with a master. Here, 10 fairly elementary math problems and 6 hours to solve them. In fact, if you could solve just one of these in 6 hours that would be enough. Can't? Why not? The solutions are simple! It's just as difficult to do well in a mental sport as it is in a physical sport except that being beefy and big is manly, while being smart and studious is nerdy. Well guess what, last time I checked running really fast did not help to find a cure for cancer or build a spaceship. I'd love to see some of these "real" men who look down on nerds try to pass some of the math courses offered at our university. At least the advanced introductory math courses that do not assume a lot of background knowledge, I'll let the algebraic geometry and operator algebra courses slide. Whuffo you jump out of them airplanes? Whuffo you hit that tiny ball with that gay looking paddle? By the way, weren't you the one complaining about all the bitching and moaning in society? And why come down on fat men anyway? Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox and go back to studying for my final. embarrased shuffling of feet -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tunaplanet 0 #32 August 11, 2004 QuoteThere are a lot of sports that fat men can compete in that you would really suck at. Like chess, or competitive mathematics. Those aren't Olympic events. Anything else I can debunk for you? Forty-two Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #33 August 11, 2004 QuoteThere are a lot of sports that fat men can compete in that you would really suck at. Like chess, or competitive mathematics This is wher I draw the freaking hard line.... Ping pong: its physical, fine. Chess? No way in hell its a sport.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #34 August 11, 2004 You asked since when table tennis is a sport, and why. I'm answering those questions. Edited to add: QuoteWhuffo you jump out of them airplanes? Whuffo you hit that tiny ball with that gay looking paddle? And also, QuoteBy the way, fat men can compete in skydiving. Debunk this for me. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #35 August 11, 2004 QuoteChess? No way in hell its a sport. Why? Because it's not physical? Besides, I'm not really referring to the current definition of the word "sport" in my post. I'm referring to people looking down on untraditional competitive activities. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #36 August 11, 2004 QuoteWhy? Because it's not physical? Yes. Its an awsome challenge. You need great intellingence, but its not a sport in my book. Doenst make it a lesser activity, just not a sport.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #37 August 11, 2004 We agree. Sport is just a word. Looking down on people is another matter. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #38 August 11, 2004 QuoteWe agree. Sport is just a word. Looking down on people is another matter. Now, ballroom dancing, thats another matter Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #39 August 11, 2004 I don't know, it could get pretty extreme when someone steps on your feet 10 times every minute -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #40 August 11, 2004 They lose points for that. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #41 August 11, 2004 Chess isn't a sport, Math isn't a sport, and table tennis isn't a sport. Yes, they are very difficult games, but not sports. Before anyone says I don't know what I'm talking about, I do play chess (though I haven't in a few years), am a mathmetician (will egt my degree in a few months), and play ping pong every day. Fun games, and extremely difficult to master but sports nonetheless. Also, I highly doubt a fat man could become good at table tennis. Good players need to have extremely fast reflexes, good hand-eye coordination, among other things. It's like Othello, easy to learn, but a lifetime to master.This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Push 0 #42 August 11, 2004 According to dictionary.com, you guys are right and a sport has to be a physical activity. According to my math sense, sport is a word and it's definition is irrelevant. My post was about some groups of people looking down on some other groups of people, the whole sport issue is just a catalyst. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #43 August 11, 2004 Umm, Tuna, fat people compete in skydiving as well. Does mean it is less than a sport? If so, why are you advocating it be in the Olympics?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #44 August 11, 2004 QuoteChess isn't a sport, Math isn't a sport, and table tennis isn't a sport. By what definition do you exclude ping pong? Chess and math are easy to exclude, but it meets the physical requirements. It has scoring, competition, is aerobic, requires physical skill and stamina. How does it differ from full court tennis? Tuna- in the same way that a softball league has little ressemblence with major league baseball, neither does the ping pong you play have any relation to the elite players (mostly of Asia). Even badmitton gets pretty evil once you fill the court with players who have no other pursuit in life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 220 #45 August 11, 2004 QuoteChess isn't a sport, Math isn't a sport, and table tennis isn't a sport. Fun games, and extremely difficult to master but sports nonetheless. Also, I highly doubt a fat man could become good at table tennis. Good players need to have extremely fast reflexes, good hand-eye coordination, among other things. It's like Othello, easy to learn, but a lifetime to master. Going to make up your mind? What about Golf? Is that a sport? What about tennis? Is that a sport? BECAUSE - if Golf is a sport and Tennis is a sport - then Miniature Golf is a sport and Table Tennis is a sport as well.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #46 August 11, 2004 QuoteWhat about Golf? Is that a sport? What about tennis? Is that a sport? BECAUSE - if Golf is a sport and Tennis is a sport - then Miniature Golf is a sport and Table Tennis is a sport as well. Its all fun and games, not sports. Until someone looses an eye. Then its a sport. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #47 August 11, 2004 What's next has already happened in the Winter Olympics....Curling. I think the closest skydiving will ever come to being included in the games was the 1988 opening ceremonies.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #48 August 11, 2004 QuotePing pong is capable of having a fat man be a top player. Period. So is sky diving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #49 August 11, 2004 QuoteQuoteThere are a lot of sports that fat men can compete in that you would really suck at. Like chess, or competitive mathematics. Those aren't Olympic events. Anything else I can debunk for you? Yeah, debunk for me how chess WAS in the Olympics, as well as bridge and still make your statement true? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,446 #50 August 11, 2004 Archery and shooting are both Olympic events. Both can be done, and very well, by fat people. They probably require less aerobic exertion than table tennis. Are they sports? You can lose an eye, so that might make up for it. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites