Steel 0 #1 August 3, 2004 Ok so I am at the gym yesterday and I notice this guy (thats right not girl) is working out benching with 55 lbs. Now what the hell is he planning on accomplishing with that. Ok, whatever so I look in another direction and see a fat guy on the ab machine really getting into it. With a little simple research he would find that there is no way to target fat loss in specific areas. But anyway up to this point its funny looking at these people. Now I go to do my squat workout which is the last excersise I do on my leg day. I usually do it last so that I can get more from less weight and protect my back that way. Anyway, I am working with 225 doing sets of ten and this guy comes interupting a set wanting to work in, later he wants to talk during sets, now this breaks the 3 cardinal rules. 1. Don't talk to someone during a set that is just rude and stupid. 2. Don't talk just before a set, that is concentrating time. 3. Feel free to work in but follow rules 1 & 2. Anyway the funny (stupid) part came after he did his set. He didn't bring the weight down properly, couldn't even do 6 reps and his form was totally off. So now after I do my next set which is ofcourse, in solid form, (bringing it down as the exerise is intended and stopping at ten because I don't want to strain my back not because I can't keep going), he says to me don't you feel you knees crackling there. I just simply said, "no". But that was holding myself back. What I wanted to say was, "no because I can handle that weight, I am not being an idiot. If I wanted too, I could throw another 150 pounds on the bar and like you I would not be able to bring it down correctly, finish even six reps with it, and yes my knees would be crackling too because I would be harming them just as you are harming yours." Bodybuilding is not something that was invented 10-20 years ago. People have been doing it for more than a century. Many have made the careers on developing a science as to what works and what doesn't. The information needed for a proper workout is out there on many fronts and its free. So why is it that so many refuse to do a little research.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #2 August 3, 2004 I can get you some cheese from the fridge... I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #3 August 3, 2004 sounds more like you missed an excellent opportunity to help out people who don't know as much as you.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #4 August 3, 2004 Quote sounds more like you missed an excellent opportunity to help out people who don't know as much as you. Agreed - Why not give out some free advice?=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKFSChick 0 #5 August 3, 2004 Imagine if it was like that in skydiving? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John4455 0 #6 August 3, 2004 The first time that I walked into the excercise room at the YMCA, where I have now been a member for quite a while, I see a long row of treadmills with some people on them that were doing the right kind of work out, by being on the treadmill. They were watching the TV's mounted on the wall. I looked up to see The Food Channel. How do ya like it Johnny? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #7 August 3, 2004 I'm with everyone else on this one. If you see a problem, especially when there's potential for someone to get hurt, give a couple pointers. No one is asking that you become their personal trainer, but a tip or two would take a moment of your time and potentially save someone from injury. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #8 August 3, 2004 QuoteQuote sounds more like you missed an excellent opportunity to help out people who don't know as much as you. Agreed - Why not give out some free advice? Perhaps a simple statement like you might find better results with some lighter weight and more solid form could have been appropiate. But I did not get the feeling that free advice would have been welcome. I think it would more have been more likely to start an arguement.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrose7 0 #9 August 3, 2004 I'm sorry, but get over yourself. At least he made it to the gym instead of sitting on the couch eating McD's. Some people don't obsess over working out. They do what they can to stay in shape. Do a little research, yeah, that'd be great, but in the time you spent making this post, you could have explained your 3 cardinal rules or helped him with the correct form. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The mind is like a parachute--it works better when it is open. JUMP. MaryRose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyer2Diver 0 #10 August 3, 2004 I get a kick out of it when women say that they don't work out with weights because they're afraid of getting too big _______________________________ 30005KT 10SM SKC 23/05 A3006 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rbrcokflichk 0 #11 August 3, 2004 Research? What's that, we know everything already!!! I'd rather have an awkward morning than a boring night!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #12 August 3, 2004 You sound kinda angry . . . been hittin' the juice? Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #13 August 3, 2004 QuoteYou sound kinda angry . . . been hittin' the juice? Kelly not funnyIf I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #14 August 3, 2004 QuoteI get a kick out of it when women say that they don't work out with weights because they're afraid of getting too big I find that funny as well.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #15 August 3, 2004 QuoteI get a kick out of it when women say that they don't work out with weights because they're afraid of getting too big I only wish it were so easy! I do work out with weights and discovered that a great trick with my new muscles is working each side of the chest at different times to make my boobies move independently of each other. Of course you may get slapped if you suggest that to a girl at the gym.... Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #16 August 3, 2004 QuotePost: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You sound kinda angry . . . been hittin' the juice? Kelly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- not funny I thought it was hillariousPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Steel 0 #17 August 3, 2004 Quote***I do work out with weights and discovered that a great trick with my new muscles is working each side of the chest at different times to make my boobies move independently of each other. Of course you may get slapped if you suggest that to a girl at the gym.... Jen lol,If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ScubaSteve 0 #18 August 3, 2004 Hhe poor guy with 55lbs could of been nursing an old skydiving injury. Cut people some slack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,058 #19 August 3, 2004 OK, so I'm at the DZ yesterday and I see someone doing a solo. Now, what the hell is he planning to accomplish there? Is he some kind of loser newbie? But OK, whatever. I look in another direction and see a bunch of 100 jump wonders trying to do a 6 way. With just a little research they would realize that low-experience 6 ways are no way to build 4-way skills. But anyway, it's funny watching these people. So I go up to do a non-repeater 4-way, which is how I end our training day. I am thinking about the dive when someone on the load asks how much time he should leave between exits. Now, he's breaking the 3 cardinal rules of the climb to altitude: 1. Don't talk to the 4-way people who are visualizing; that's rude and stupid. 2. Don't talk to 4-way people just after visualizing; that's prep time. 3. Feel free to jump on the same plane as us but follow rules 1 and 2. Anyway, the funny and stupid part came as he was exiting the plane. He didn't go down on set, didn't present his chest to the wind, couldn't even lead with the right foot. After we landed he said "do you ever have problems launching when you're front float." I just said "No." But I was holding back. What I wanted to say was "No, because I can handle front float, unlike you. If I wanted to, I could launch front float with my back to the wind, just like you did, and still end up on my belly with a good launch." 4-way was not invented ten years ago; it's been going on at least 40. Many have made careers of both doing and coaching it. The information is out there. So why do so many skydivers refuse to do a little research? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites towerrat 0 #20 August 3, 2004 Right on BillPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites scottbre 0 #21 August 3, 2004 Hehe. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #22 August 3, 2004 Quote1. Don't talk to the 4-way people who are visualizing; that's rude and stupid. 2. Don't talk to 4-way people just after visualizing; that's prep time. I just dont talk to 4way people anyways.... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Skyrose7 0 #23 August 3, 2004 Way to put it into words we can all understand~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The mind is like a parachute--it works better when it is open. JUMP. MaryRose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spatula 0 #24 August 3, 2004 I've found that (being on both sides, as a patron of gym, and a trainer to clients) that giving/taking advice to someone who works in with you (stranger/non-aquaintence) is tough. Most people think they know what they are doing when they train. Ego's play a large role in a gym. If gentlemen A for instance was to approach gentlement B, and say that they are doing an exercise improperly, g_A will either accept the advice and learn from it (it's its good advice) or in the back of his mind say (whatever, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about). People are stubborn in the gym. Everyone is an expert, or knows the best way to train. When a trainer approaches a patron, if done in a positive manner, most patrons will gladly accept the advice/guidance. I've seen too many trainers get cocky and think they are a know it all, and pick people out and tear they're form up to belittle someone and lose focus on they're job which is to help and improve others. Sorry for ranting, just an issue that I see time and time again....then again I may not have made any solid points...casue I'm at work..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #25 August 3, 2004 QuoteI've found that (being on both sides, as a patron of skydiving, and a coach to skydivers) that giving/taking advice to someone who jumps near you (stranger/non-aquaintence) is tough. Most people think they know what they are doing when they jump. Ego's play a large role in skydiving. If gentlemen A for instance was to approach gentlement B, and say that they are doing something improperly, g_A will either accept the advice and learn from it (it's its good advice) or in the back of his mind say (whatever, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about). People are stubborn in skydiving. Everyone is an expert, or knows the best way to train. People are stubborn everywhere! Its easier to take the view that your right all the time. Then you don't have to think! (hehe, bold is me, editing it just to be funny, and credit to bill cause his was way better) p.s. not pickin on you or anything, just to make a point~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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Steel 0 #17 August 3, 2004 Quote***I do work out with weights and discovered that a great trick with my new muscles is working each side of the chest at different times to make my boobies move independently of each other. Of course you may get slapped if you suggest that to a girl at the gym.... Jen lol,If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScubaSteve 0 #18 August 3, 2004 Hhe poor guy with 55lbs could of been nursing an old skydiving injury. Cut people some slack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #19 August 3, 2004 OK, so I'm at the DZ yesterday and I see someone doing a solo. Now, what the hell is he planning to accomplish there? Is he some kind of loser newbie? But OK, whatever. I look in another direction and see a bunch of 100 jump wonders trying to do a 6 way. With just a little research they would realize that low-experience 6 ways are no way to build 4-way skills. But anyway, it's funny watching these people. So I go up to do a non-repeater 4-way, which is how I end our training day. I am thinking about the dive when someone on the load asks how much time he should leave between exits. Now, he's breaking the 3 cardinal rules of the climb to altitude: 1. Don't talk to the 4-way people who are visualizing; that's rude and stupid. 2. Don't talk to 4-way people just after visualizing; that's prep time. 3. Feel free to jump on the same plane as us but follow rules 1 and 2. Anyway, the funny and stupid part came as he was exiting the plane. He didn't go down on set, didn't present his chest to the wind, couldn't even lead with the right foot. After we landed he said "do you ever have problems launching when you're front float." I just said "No." But I was holding back. What I wanted to say was "No, because I can handle front float, unlike you. If I wanted to, I could launch front float with my back to the wind, just like you did, and still end up on my belly with a good launch." 4-way was not invented ten years ago; it's been going on at least 40. Many have made careers of both doing and coaching it. The information is out there. So why do so many skydivers refuse to do a little research? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #20 August 3, 2004 Right on BillPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #21 August 3, 2004 Hehe. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #22 August 3, 2004 Quote1. Don't talk to the 4-way people who are visualizing; that's rude and stupid. 2. Don't talk to 4-way people just after visualizing; that's prep time. I just dont talk to 4way people anyways.... Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrose7 0 #23 August 3, 2004 Way to put it into words we can all understand~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The mind is like a parachute--it works better when it is open. JUMP. MaryRose Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spatula 0 #24 August 3, 2004 I've found that (being on both sides, as a patron of gym, and a trainer to clients) that giving/taking advice to someone who works in with you (stranger/non-aquaintence) is tough. Most people think they know what they are doing when they train. Ego's play a large role in a gym. If gentlemen A for instance was to approach gentlement B, and say that they are doing an exercise improperly, g_A will either accept the advice and learn from it (it's its good advice) or in the back of his mind say (whatever, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about). People are stubborn in the gym. Everyone is an expert, or knows the best way to train. When a trainer approaches a patron, if done in a positive manner, most patrons will gladly accept the advice/guidance. I've seen too many trainers get cocky and think they are a know it all, and pick people out and tear they're form up to belittle someone and lose focus on they're job which is to help and improve others. Sorry for ranting, just an issue that I see time and time again....then again I may not have made any solid points...casue I'm at work..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #25 August 3, 2004 QuoteI've found that (being on both sides, as a patron of skydiving, and a coach to skydivers) that giving/taking advice to someone who jumps near you (stranger/non-aquaintence) is tough. Most people think they know what they are doing when they jump. Ego's play a large role in skydiving. If gentlemen A for instance was to approach gentlement B, and say that they are doing something improperly, g_A will either accept the advice and learn from it (it's its good advice) or in the back of his mind say (whatever, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about). People are stubborn in skydiving. Everyone is an expert, or knows the best way to train. People are stubborn everywhere! Its easier to take the view that your right all the time. Then you don't have to think! (hehe, bold is me, editing it just to be funny, and credit to bill cause his was way better) p.s. not pickin on you or anything, just to make a point~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
