phoenixlpr 0 #1 April 7, 2010 Look what I found in my para-gear spam. N3A AUDIO ALTIMETER The N3Audio (N3A) is a digital audio altimeter, designed to integrate with your mp3 player. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #2 April 7, 2010 i have an N3 and always made jokes it was the new ipod; i think the N3A is a bit excessive..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #3 April 7, 2010 There are a bunch of younger jumpers that skydive with their earphones in, listening to music. The N3A provides a way for those jumpers to have audible alarms. I may think its nuts to listen to music during a skydive, but those young ones will never agree with an old fart like me so I think the N3A meets a need."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #4 April 7, 2010 april foolsday joke? The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsreznor 0 #5 April 7, 2010 Announced months ago. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #6 April 7, 2010 Quote april foolsday joke? nope, unfortunately, it wasnt..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 April 7, 2010 In another forum we're discussing people relying on their AAD's to save their lives, probably while listening to tunes.I say tunes or altimeter and AAD, take your pick.Oh well, I'm an fart too. You know, skydiving still scares me a little. That's why I do it! That's a GOOD thing. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #8 April 7, 2010 Quote april foolsday joke? On the 6th of April? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #9 April 7, 2010 sorry, didn't look at the date - spoilsport The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feuergnom 29 #10 April 7, 2010 Quote In another forum we're discussing people relying on their AAD's to save their lives, probably while listening to tunes.I say tunes or altimeter and AAD, take your pick.Oh well, I'm an fart too. You know, skydiving still scares me a little. That's why I do it! That's a GOOD thing. terry - you are sooooo 1960ies - guess i like that The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle dudeist skydiver # 666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #11 April 22, 2010 On the flip side, given that you add your own external earphones you could stick that in your pocket and get the benefit of an audible even though you don't have space for one in your helmet... kinda like the old "why do you have two - because 3 don't fit" or will save the thing getting ripped off the side of a protec by a riser strike etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManagingPrime 0 #12 November 2, 2010 Probably going to get flamed for this.... I was thinking about buying the N3A as my second audible. I really like my current N3 and while I don't listen to music for safety reasons I would entertain a setup like this. Flame away...I need the perspective before I decide to plunk down the cash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 November 3, 2010 Save your money. Being distracted by music on a skydive is never a good idea.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hvance 0 #14 November 3, 2010 Quote Save your money. Being distracted by music on a skydive is never a good idea. Don't listen to Andy. Skydiving is safe. Why shouldn't' we be able to jam out while we fall to the earth?? I wish Google Maps had an "Avoid Ghetto" routing option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManagingPrime 0 #15 November 3, 2010 Quote Quote Save your money. Being distracted by music on a skydive is never a good idea. Don't listen to Andy. Skydiving is safe. Why shouldn't' we be able to jam out while we fall to the earth?? Agreed. I see no reason why we should not be able to jam out while we are in freefall. BUT, I gave it some more thought last night and while the N3A is a step in the right direction as far as trying to make music in freefall safe...it's not nearly there. There are to many situations that come to mind where I do NOT want to be hearing music. If anything a device like the N3A might be more dangerous as it could give a false sense of security. I think it will be a long while until recorded music in freefall becomes safe enough for me to revisit the subject. Soooo, be careful what you wish for....I'm going to get some vocal coaching....I'm going acapella!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base283 0 #16 November 4, 2010 To the nay-sayers. What if the device always knew what song/stanza/chord/note (of fav song(s) to end on to signal whatever one does? With the song they knew. Rhythm is the basis for learning sequences is it not? It would suck of course if there was a glitch. Try this: recite the alphabet fwd and time your self. Then recite it backwards timed. Huge difference for me in secs. But if one could do the abc´s forward at a speed relevant to the exit altitude and assign a number to each letter assuming the signal will always activate "z" (26) and it would digitally calculate the exit altitude (EA) to the intended signal activation alt (AA) divided by units of measurement (UM) =[EA-AA/UM] and multiply that into measurements of unit and one could get altitude on digital display in meters or feet or what ever one wants and know if it is accurate by looking at the ground..... Take care, space Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 November 4, 2010 My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hvance 0 #18 November 4, 2010 HahahahaI wish Google Maps had an "Avoid Ghetto" routing option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andreweden 0 #19 November 4, 2010 I actually have the N3A. It does not play music by itself - its not an mp3 player. If you hook up your ipod - it will play music that it mutes when its got an alarm to play to you. If you don't have anything else connected it is an audible that uses earphones instead of a speaker in your helmet. Since I like using earplugs to protect my ears from all the noise anyway - this was an ideal solution for me. Since I have earplug style earphones from my motorbike. The warnings and alarms with the N3A are also spoken .wav files. So instead of just squealing sirens -its telling you what the warning is. 'Breakoff' 'Deploy' etc. Years in aircraft with similar voice alerts means this is pretty familiar to me and I finds aids awareness rather than detracting from it. I find the altitude countdown useful too. you know by 12000' that your audible is working and you get an idea of how your skydive is going rather than waiting for a normal audible to squeal at you. I am not for a moment saying that its a substitute for a visual altimeter or normal altitude awareness - but I find it a useful aid and an enhancement. it costs more than other data logging audibles - but it also does more. Personally I don't use it with an ipod - I don't want music - I want all the sounds of skydiving (although at a level that won't damage my hearing). I would say don't knock it till you've tried it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hvance 0 #20 November 4, 2010 Those features that you mentioned aren't what people are knocking. It's the music bit.I wish Google Maps had an "Avoid Ghetto" routing option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomas.n.thomas 0 #21 December 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Save your money. Being distracted by music on a skydive is never a good idea. Don't listen to Andy. Skydiving is safe. Why shouldn't' we be able to jam out while we fall to the earth?? Agreed. I see no reason why we should not be able to jam out while we are in freefall. BUT, I gave it some more thought last night and while the N3A is a step in the right direction as far as trying to make music in freefall safe...it's not nearly there. There are to many situations that come to mind where I do NOT want to be hearing music. If anything a device like the N3A might be more dangerous as it could give a false sense of security. I think it will be a long while until recorded music in freefall becomes safe enough for me to revisit the subject. Soooo, be careful what you wish for....I'm going to get some vocal coaching....I'm going acapella!! Recorded music is definitely not safe. Jump with an electric guitar and amp and make your own tunes. Do a lot of people really jump with music? Seems crazy to me. I mean, how are you going to hear if you get a phone call? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #22 December 10, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote Save your money. Being distracted by music on a skydive is never a good idea. Don't listen to Andy. Skydiving is safe. Why shouldn't' we be able to jam out while we fall to the earth?? Agreed. I see no reason why we should not be able to jam out while we are in freefall. BUT, I gave it some more thought last night and while the N3A is a step in the right direction as far as trying to make music in freefall safe...it's not nearly there. There are to many situations that come to mind where I do NOT want to be hearing music. If anything a device like the N3A might be more dangerous as it could give a false sense of security. I think it will be a long while until recorded music in freefall becomes safe enough for me to revisit the subject. Soooo, be careful what you wish for....I'm going to get some vocal coaching....I'm going acapella!! Recorded music is definitely not safe. Jump with an electric guitar and amp and make your own tunes. Do a lot of people really jump with music? Seems crazy to me. I mean, how are you going to hear if you get a phone call? there's an iphone app for that, you also have to take pictures, u know! “Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #23 December 10, 2010 Music during freefall would not bother me.... Music under canopy bothers me. We are seeing an increase in canopy collisions. Canopies are getting faster, planes are getting bigger, and we are removing our ability to see and hear by adding newer helmets. IMO, faster canopies, more of them, and less ability to see and hear is a bad combination."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #24 December 10, 2010 Dang kids would all go in without their batteries... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #25 December 10, 2010 Quote Dang kids would all go in without their batteries... i must admit, i was quite happy to have my analog with me a couple times when the N3 had died..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites