vt1977 0 #1 June 4, 2004 ... and it was great! Anyone else seen it yet? I thought the pace was much better (quicker) that the previous films. The change in Director was obvious too. I enjoyed it! And the dementors... go see it! Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #2 June 4, 2004 I watched Y tu mamá también last night (by the same director). Should be interesting to see the new style that he will bring to Harry Potter. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 0 #3 June 4, 2004 I looooove Harry Potter, have all the book. I'm planning on cutting out of work early one afternoon to avoid the kid crowd to go see it. My movies to see this month: Harry Potter Shrek 2 The day after tomorrow (ok Derek is really the one who wants to see this but since I'm dragging him to the other 2 I'll be nice and go see this one. )Fly it like you stole it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #4 June 4, 2004 Quote I watched Y tu mamá también last night (by the same director). Should be interesting to see the new style that he will bring to Harry Potter. I just hope he didn't include a "pool scene" in Harry Potter. That would just bring it to a WHOLE different level!!!! Marz _________________________________________ Did I just kill another thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #5 June 4, 2004 Do you want the bootleg?__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #6 June 4, 2004 The Day After Tomorrow SUCKS. "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #7 June 4, 2004 It debuts tonight at midnight here . . . I'll see it Saturday night with my young ones. We have the others on DVD, along with all of the books in print and on audio.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfunction 0 #8 June 4, 2004 Quote Do you want the bootleg? If you are offering, I would like one... and one for my girlfriend, one for her kids, one for my brother, and one for my dad.... Seriously, he digs the shows... I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #9 June 4, 2004 Quote I looooove Harry Potter, have all the book. I'm planning on cutting out of work early one afternoon to avoid the kid crowd to go see it. My movies to see this month: Harry Potter Shrek 2 The day after tomorrow (ok Derek is really the one who wants to see this but since I'm dragging him to the other 2 I'll be nice and go see this one. ) Don't waste your time with Day After Tomorrow. I'm hoping to see Harry Potter on IMAX tonight._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflying 0 #10 June 4, 2004 i saw it and thought it was much better than the first two -- and i liked that it was shorter. Thought the first two were too long. and I loved Emma Thompson and whoever that actor is that played Harry's uncle (whats his name??) i really want to see Stepford Wives too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 June 4, 2004 How does it follow/compare to the book? I'm an avid Harry Potter reader, but the movies never quite do it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #12 June 4, 2004 from the reviews i'v read Dave this one doesn't follow the book at all I read how buckbeak attacks Lupin or stupid shit like that. only one scene with quiditch, and that jackass Alfonso changed the entire physical look of hogwartsI swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #13 June 4, 2004 I'm really looking forward to seeing Gary Oldman as Sirius Black! And I don't see how the movie could follow the book faithfully without being at least 6 hours long! If they can get the essence of it without sacrificing too much, I think that's OK. They left a lot out of the second movie, but it was still pretty good. (I'd love to have seen more quidditch in the first 2 movies as well!) I've heard this movie is "darker" than the first 2, but the book is also darker than the first 2. Anyway, I'm sure I'll see it sometime this weekend! I'll probably have to drag my guy kicking and screaming, but he'll love it once he's there! And to add to my geeky happiness, Steven King's next installment of the Dark Tower series is coming out on Tuesday! Yeah! A movie this weekend and a good book to work on next week! Life is good! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #14 June 4, 2004 its not that things were left out, that happens with all book to film adaptations its that shit was added that didn't happen in the book. I honestly don't understand how you could screw up the time line for a movie when you have a book to read and go by.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 June 5, 2004 Just saw the movie about 20 minutes ago. By year three the books become sufficiently long that no movie is going to be able to hold all of the detail so I understand when some things get dropped and other things get simplified for the good of the movie. That's just the way it is. Fine performances by all the actors. I liked the movie quite a bit, but thought they left out some exposition that will be required for future movies. We'll see how that goes. I do recommend this for kids and adults. --- SPOILIERS --- (Mostly bitches about little details.) I did not like the fact that some of the Hogwart's sets were changed -- mostly exteriors -- nor did I like the over all move away from the "magical" setting that the previous movies had. This movie had an almost post apocalyptic look starting off with the design of the Knight's Bus and the conductor. I just didn't understand it. I also -hated- the fact that the kids are mostly in their street clothes when they're at Hogwart's. In the previous movies, the school uniforms gave the audience a clean distiction between the Muggle and Wizarding worlds. In this movie, the kids are mostly running around in their very modern day clothes (as opposed to their previous somewhat time ambigous clothing) so they really look like they're not at Hogwart's, but rather this is just an extention of The Goonies. One really nice addition was Emma Thompson as Professor Trelawney. We didn't get to see too much of her and we she doesn't play as big a role as the character in the book, but nicely done none the less.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfunction 0 #16 June 7, 2004 Shameless, but useful bump- I saw the movie over the weekend. I must say, I was impressed. I wondered how they would get the long book into a movie under 3 hours. You can definately tell that there is a new director, but he did wonderful with the pesonas that were begun in the previous movies (I think the fact that it is a novel-based movie helped.) Overall, I give it 4 stars out of 5. There were some good things in the movie, but there were some bad things too. You have to go into the movie knowing that some things will be left out, but with that much information to play with, why would you add anything? Someone told me that you did not get the feeling that evil was overcome in this movie... which is exactly the point. Evil grows in book 3, transforms in book 4, and becomes a main topic in book 5. If it were defeated again, there would be no reason for book 6 or 7 in my opinion. Spoilers...... Loved: Buckbeak. I think the CGI animal was well done and the scenes flowed with the actual acting of the movie. Hated: The fact that Hermoine punches Draco Malfoy. It never happened in the book, and seemed rather out of place for a witch as cunning as herself. Her character (I believe), would not resort to physical violence, instead, the use of magic to show her understanding and grasp of it over purebloods. Loved: Dumbledore. He didn't seem as aloof as Richard Harris' portrayal. The change of actors went nicely, and the presence of a taller, larger man was significant to show his authority level. Hated: Peter Petigrew. The human form should not have been as rat-like (two big teeth, round face and nose, arms curled at the elbows and wrists). The guy is an animagi, not a rat. Loved: Dementors. Not much to say about that, except they were exceptionally well done. The idea that they took the joy out and left one feeling cold was portrayed very well. Hated: They did not explain Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs in the end. It is worth knowing who made the map and for what purpose. Also, why there was a buck across the lake in the end when the final spell was cast to get rid of the Dementors. Hated the fact that they used the "Immobulus" incantation on the Whomping Willow instead of the knot that stalls the tree (which is why Petigrew decided to become an illegal animagi...). And the fact that it was moved from the outer wall to 100 yards away on the side of a hill was a little distracting. Loved: Shrieking Shack. It seemed alive and didn't distract from the acting. The walls were done very well, and if you listened closely, you could hear minute screams and shrieks from the building itself. Hated: Hagrid's new home. The first two movies had Hagrid's hut close to the walls of the castle. The first one was practically a stone throw away from the wall, while the second one was about 100 yards away. The third one, Hagrid's place was about 500 yards away, down a bunch of stairs, and (the most hated part of all), now a 2-room shack! He must have built an addition in the last year and a half, because in the first two movies, Harry and friends were stuck going in and out of one door. Loved: Um, well, there isn't much more to say. Hated: Storyline errors. The 'friendship' between Lupin and Snape was never addressed. The book talks about a meeting the two had where Lupin actually went to Snape's office to get the potion to keep his changing under control. That will have pretty big reprocussions in the upcoming movies since that is a friendship that gets moved to the forefront in book 5. The Firebolt being at the end instead of in the middle of the movie. One point to that was that the teachers thought it was covered in Black Magic from Black, leading to the high suspicion of Sirius. The way the movie has it, everyone knows who it is from and they have no problem with it.... And the rift between Hermoine and Draco was kind of left out. That is big, considering the events that transpire in books 4 and 5, not to mention that eventually the two will have a standoff sometime in book 6 or 7, leading to the possible demise of one of them. Finally, Sirius Black's character and the amount of time he had on screen. All the trailers, posters and advertisements raved about Gary Oldman being Sirius, yet he was only in the move for maybe 15 minutes maximum... at the end. They seemed to give more attention to the Night Bus than they did to probably one of the most important characters Rowling ever created. You didn't have the attachment to him that will be necessary in the upcomming events. Ok, movie critique over. Back to work. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #17 June 7, 2004 Quote Shameless, but useful bump- I saw the movie over the weekend. I must say, I was impressed. I wondered how they would get the long book into a movie under 3 hours. You can definately tell that there is a new director, but he did wonderful with the pesonas that were begun in the previous movies (I think the fact that it is a novel-based movie helped.) Overall, I give it 4 stars out of 5. There were some good things in the movie, but there were some bad things too. You have to go into the movie knowing that some things will be left out, but with that much information to play with, why would you add anything? Someone told me that you did not get the feeling that evil was overcome in this movie... which is exactly the point. Evil grows in book 3, transforms in book 4, and becomes a main topic in book 5. If it were defeated again, there would be no reason for book 6 or 7 in my opinion. Spoilers...... Loved: Buckbeak. I think the CGI animal was well done and the scenes flowed with the actual acting of the movie. Hated: The fact that Hermoine punches Draco Malfoy. It never happened in the book, and seemed rather out of place for a witch as cunning as herself. Her character (I believe), would not resort to physical violence, instead, the use of magic to show her understanding and grasp of it over purebloods. Loved: Dumbledore. He didn't seem as aloof as Richard Harris' portrayal. The change of actors went nicely, and the presence of a taller, larger man was significant to show his authority level. Hated: Peter Petigrew. The human form should not have been as rat-like (two big teeth, round face and nose, arms curled at the elbows and wrists). The guy is an animagi, not a rat. Loved: Dementors. Not much to say about that, except they were exceptionally well done. The idea that they took the joy out and left one feeling cold was portrayed very well. Hated: They did not explain Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs in the end. It is worth knowing who made the map and for what purpose. Also, why there was a buck across the lake in the end when the final spell was cast to get rid of the Dementors. Hated the fact that they used the "Immobulus" incantation on the Whomping Willow instead of the knot that stalls the tree (which is why Petigrew decided to become an illegal animagi...). And the fact that it was moved from the outer wall to 100 yards away on the side of a hill was a little distracting. Loved: Shrieking Shack. It seemed alive and didn't distract from the acting. The walls were done very well, and if you listened closely, you could hear minute screams and shrieks from the building itself. Hated: Hagrid's new home. The first two movies had Hagrid's hut close to the walls of the castle. The first one was practically a stone throw away from the wall, while the second one was about 100 yards away. The third one, Hagrid's place was about 500 yards away, down a bunch of stairs, and (the most hated part of all), now a 2-room shack! He must have built an addition in the last year and a half, because in the first two movies, Harry and friends were stuck going in and out of one door. Loved: Um, well, there isn't much more to say. Hated: Storyline errors. The 'friendship' between Lupin and Snape was never addressed. The book talks about a meeting the two had where Lupin actually went to Snape's office to get the potion to keep his changing under control. That will have pretty big reprocussions in the upcoming movies since that is a friendship that gets moved to the forefront in book 5. The Firebolt being at the end instead of in the middle of the movie. One point to that was that the teachers thought it was covered in Black Magic from Black, leading to the high suspicion of Sirius. The way the movie has it, everyone knows who it is from and they have no problem with it.... And the rift between Hermoine and Draco was kind of left out. That is big, considering the events that transpire in books 4 and 5, not to mention that eventually the two will have a standoff sometime in book 6 or 7, leading to the possible demise of one of them. Finally, Sirius Black's character and the amount of time he had on screen. All the trailers, posters and advertisements raved about Gary Oldman being Sirius, yet he was only in the move for maybe 15 minutes maximum... at the end. They seemed to give more attention to the Night Bus than they did to probably one of the most important characters Rowling ever created. You didn't have the attachment to him that will be necessary in the upcomming events. Ok, movie critique over. Back to work. I saw it last night. I enjoyed it more than the first two. A lot more. The Knight Bus was a riot, the hippograf was cool, the dementors were appropriately nasty...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #18 June 7, 2004 OK, I'm adding to this. Are these really spoilers? Loved the Night Bus! Loved Buckbeak's "pondswoop" I thought Hermoine did punch out Draco in one of the books (now I'll have to go back and re-read....) but I hated him cringing like a biotch. Loved the scene where invisible Harry pulled down Draco's sidekick's pants. Loved Emma Thompson. Did not see enough of Gary Oldman as Sirius Black. And yes, I agree, the relationship between Lupin, Sirius and Snape should have been explained, as well as the significance of the map and its makers. It was this BOOK that explained Snape's obligation to Harry as well as his dislike for his father. The rift between Ron and Hermoine was a big part of the book and was barely touched on in the movie. They left a lot out but still told a good story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #19 June 7, 2004 I want a pet Hippogriff! I might have a hard time feeding it dead ferrets, but the rides would be cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dixieskydiver 0 #20 June 7, 2004 Quote from the reviews i'v read Dave this one doesn't follow the book at all I read how buckbeak attacks Lupin or stupid shit like that. only one scene with quiditch, and that jackass Alfonso changed the entire physical look of hogwarts Yea very different from the book. Very angry about the changes made to the castle, what was the new director thinking making major changes to the landscape in a series like this? I understand that whole portions of the book had to be lopped out for time reasons, but I didn't much like the way they did it. They left out a lot of stuff. Also the new Dumbledore is crap, very sad about the other actor. I read all the books during my travel time to China, they are a fantastic light but enterataining read for adults. Dixie HISPA #56 Facil Rodriguez "Scientific research has shown that 60% of the time, it works every time." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #21 June 7, 2004 Since the inside of the castle is continually changing, why expect the outside to stay constant? This is like the people that grumble that Star Trek violates laws of physics. Get a life!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #22 June 7, 2004 Quote why expect the outside to stay constant? ummmmmmmm b/c its a big pile of stone that shouldn't be moving around the country side. They established the location and look of the place in the first two movies. Its a huge cinimatic no no to screw with stuff that big and noticable in a series of 7 movies.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malfunction 0 #23 June 8, 2004 Quote Its a huge cinimatic no no to screw with stuff that big and noticable in a series of 7 movies I didn't have a problem with the physical appearance of Hogwarts changing. My problem was that Hagrid's hut, a place that wasn't / isn't magical, moved and changed, and the Whomping Willow physically changed locations. Hogwart's changing I can live with, and I expect to see it change as the more in depth the books get, different areas of the school need to be emphasized. I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #24 June 8, 2004 I wanna see that so bad it's ridiculous!! I have read every book, can't wait to see it! Yes, I realize I'm a geek. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #25 June 8, 2004 Quote Quote why expect the outside to stay constant? ummmmmmmm b/c its a big pile of stone that shouldn't be moving around the country side. They established the location and look of the place in the first two movies. Its a huge cinimatic no no to screw with stuff that big and noticable in a series of 7 movies. So Sean Connery should still play James Bond? Sorry, but if you suspend disbelief enough to accept wizards and hippgriffs, what's wrong with a metamorphosing castle? Maybe it's the first two movies that were wrong and this one got it right.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
