ACMESkydiver 0 #1 June 7, 2004 Sure there are a lot of claims for this herb or that vitamin or whatever the heck...has anyone tried one that worked? Anyone know anyone that tried one that worked? Anyone have a hairdresser that has a sister that knows someone that tried one that worked?? Doin' my best to keep up this high-energy sunshine spirit that I'm supposed to be known for, but sometimes it's hard to be happy inside. Aside from the ole' "Go skydiving", which I can't do right now, any serious ideas?? I need to crawl out of this depression and get back to where I belong.~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #2 June 7, 2004 St John's Wort is the one that comes to mind, but I believe all of those supplements work for some, useless for others. Perhaps an emphasis on the useless side. Exercise is the cheapest, most reliable "natural prozac" out there. Elevate your heart rate for 30 minutes (say 60-70% of your max heart rate - 130?) frequently and you should feel better. Sex counts if long enough and with the heart rate high enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #3 June 7, 2004 My dear sweet red headed step sister. Sorry that you are feeling depressed. I haven't heard anything about this natural Prozac. I wish I had a suggestion to pull you out of your depression. Maybe some good hot monkey sex, or turtle sex, and some shots of tequila would do it May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #4 June 7, 2004 I turned down great tickets to the Marnier's game tonight with my bro and sis...what is the matter with me?! Eegad... A-ha! sex should do it. Hubby should be home in 25 minutes, and if I explained that I'm depressed and need a romp, maybe that'll fix things right up! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkdice 0 #5 June 8, 2004 QuoteSt John's Wort is the one that comes to mind St. John's Wort may interact with the pill. Be careful ladies.... few links... http://www.healthandage.com/html/res/com/ConsHerbs/Interactions/StJohnsWortch.html http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/DailyNews/OnCall_stj_wort_pregnancy020211.html http://www.ohiohealth.com/healthreference/reference/F1781963-B6D5-44D9-911FC26C33558B81.htm?category=10311 my 'natural remedies' include (in no particular order) good orgasms good sleep exercise loads of chocolate (and then more exercise which may be done while reaching the good orgasm) watching shrek sometimes you're just going to feel down or sad and it may take a little bit to get out of that dark place. you're not alone. b Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLYBERT71 0 #6 June 8, 2004 I don't know if watching the Mariners will help. How bout a nekid skyjump? I'm open for Wednesday. If not nekid how bout screamin' head down? And if not that I'll do anything you want.(skydiving related) "If you have time to panic, you have time to do something more productive." Josh Whipple 7/15/70-2/10/05 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisL 2 #7 June 8, 2004 QuoteSure there are a lot of claims for this herb or that vitamin or whatever the heck...has anyone tried one that worked? Anyone know anyone that tried one that worked? Anyone have a hairdresser that has a sister that knows someone that tried one that worked?? Doin' my best to keep up this high-energy sunshine spirit that I'm supposed to be known for, but sometimes it's hard to be happy inside. Aside from the ole' "Go skydiving", which I can't do right now, any serious ideas?? I need to crawl out of this depression and get back to where I belong. If I can infer from your post that you are normally an up, happy type of person but that you are currently feeling a bit blue, I wouldnt rush right out and try to find some "cure" Some sadness in life is normal and will pass in due course. Its only when it becomes the dominant factor in your day to day life that you should seek help. Dont become used to the idea of self medicating whenever you are slightly down or have an "off" day. This practice can lead to a lot of problems. This is NOT an attempt to claim that depression is not real or shouldnt be treated, so any of you that are preparing to flame me, put down your flame throwers I merely want to emphasise that some sadness or depression is perfectly normal and temporary and not cause for undue concern. Just ride that out. it will pass. For those cases where it doesn't pass and becomes a regular thing, you folks should talk to your doctor about possible treatment options rather than trying to medicate yourselves with recreational drugs or folk remedies of questionable value.__ My mighty steed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #8 June 8, 2004 QuoteThis is NOT an attempt to claim that depression is not real or shouldnt be treated, so any of you that are preparing to flame me, put down your flame throwers I merely want to emphasise that some sadness or depression is perfectly normal and temporary and not cause for undue concern. Just ride that out. it will pass. As sort of the local loud mouth about depression, I couldn't agree with you more. Jaye, the blues are a normal part of life. Ups, downs, and sideways'es are part of this ride we call life. It's when it's continued for a long period, for no apparent reason, that it's time to get some medical help and counseling. Be very cautious about taking "natural" stress relievers and sleep aids. They can combine with RX's and not only render the RX's impotent/unworkable, they can also, in extremely rare cases, cause massive additional problems up to and including death (or so says some research. I feel bad for those mice....). For non-chemical depression, exercise, eating properly, time for self, and a few other things are the best way to work through it, and come back to your joyfully exhuberant self. HOWEVER! If this has been a long term thing (and that's a private thing - no need to disclose it here...), or it becomes a long term thing (again...private if you want), then please please please seek some medical care. There is nothing shameful about getting help...and nothing shameful about getting better with that help. The shame would be if you suffered longer than you needed to because of society's issues. PM me if you need to...I'm usually around, and I'm always willing to help. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 June 8, 2004 QuoteI turned down great tickets to the Marnier's game tonight with my bro and sis Good call cause the MARINERS SUCK..... just my $,03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #10 June 8, 2004 QuoteSt John's Wort is the one that comes to mind, but I believe all of those supplements work for some, useless for others. Perhaps an emphasis on the useless side. Exercise is the cheapest, most reliable "natural prozac" out there. Elevate your heart rate for 30 minutes (say 60-70% of your max heart rate - 130?) frequently and you should feel better. Sex counts if long enough and with the heart rate high enough. Ive been talkin St Johns Wort for about 2 months now. Seems to be working nicely. There are times when I know I should be depressed, but just not. But it doesnt work all the time. I dont know about reactions w/ prescription meds so do some checkin. Also, its roumoured that the doseages arent consistent, b/c they are unregulated by the food and drug admin. But I have heard that its has been very popular in Europe for some time as an anti-depressant, but Im too lazy to go find the info for ya. Good luck. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 221 #11 June 8, 2004 QuoteMy dear sweet red headed step sister. Sorry that you are feeling depressed. I haven't heard anything about this natural Prozac. I wish I had a suggestion to pull you out of your depression. Maybe some good hot monkey sex, or turtle sex, and some shots of tequila would do it Whoo hooo! Yeah - I do believe her remedy would work WONDERS! all you have to do is include the words "All Of The Above" and there you have it.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tandembrent 0 #12 June 8, 2004 St. johns wort works for me! you wont notice a difference as soon as you start taking it , it will take a few days for you to notice the affects. sunshine or light therapy works naturally on the body also. being around the right people is also important, negative or angry unsettled people will project their emotions onto you if you aren't paying attention. also,there is nothing wrong with not being in top form 365 days a year, let other find their own way to feel happy with0out leaning on you all the time! ***~~~~Green grass and high clouds forever~~~~ no matter where you go, there you are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #13 June 8, 2004 Thanks for the heads up, Michele...I am on another medication for thyroid...which I just found out could be a contributing factor to these ridiculous lows... Have to figure out what's wrong with the dose...and if I can afford it when my medical insurance cancels in August. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #14 June 8, 2004 QuoteSt. John's Wort may interact with the pill. Be careful ladies.... No worries for me there, I'm 'fixed'... Quotemy 'natural remedies' include (in no particular order) good orgasms good sleep exercise loads of chocolate (and then more exercise which may be done while reaching the good orgasm) watching shrek Well as far as the advice common to Bettina, Mary, Kelp and Turtle...hubby took me to this adorable little shop called 'Amour on the Blvd' last night... Yep, that fixes things in a hurry. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #15 June 8, 2004 QuoteI don't know if watching the Mariners will help. How bout a nekid skyjump? I'm open for Wednesday. If not nekid how bout screamin' head down? And if not that I'll do anything you want.(skydiving related) The Mariners WON last night, thank you Rob and Jeanne!!! Ha ha!! I didn't see it, but I sent my daughter instead and she had the time of her life. No nekid jumpin' for me...Sky Snohomish would develop its own Farmer McNasty if I was seen in all my pale glory hanging out above the fields...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #16 June 8, 2004 QuoteSt. johns wort works for me! you wont notice a difference as soon as you start taking it , it will take a few days for you to notice the affects. sunshine or light therapy works naturally on the body also. being around the right people is also important, negative or angry unsettled people will project their emotions onto you if you aren't paying attention. also,there is nothing wrong with not being in top form 365 days a year, let other find their own way to feel happy with0out leaning on you all the time! *** Cool, thanks everyone for the advice, I sure appreciate it! I do have a pharmaceutical grade St. John's Wort I have access to, I think I'll just give it a shot. I guess if you said it works and YardHippie's tried it too, I might as well take a chance. -Sunshine therapy?? In Seattle?? BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Actually, I am getting my passport today for a 4 day excursion somewhere tropical is all my wonderful hubby would say. I can't wait!!! And you're right ChrisL...I can't be full of smiles 24/7...even us 'up' people take a dip now and then. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tandembrent 0 #17 June 8, 2004 i understand about your weather! you might want to look into light therapy, it's simple and really inexpensive to explore! good luck and have a great vacation! ***~~~~Green grass and high clouds forever~~~~ no matter where you go, there you are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricaH 0 #18 June 8, 2004 I love the b12 complex. it helps w/ many things, here's a web-site that gives some of its benefits. You can also get it in nutra-yeast, it sounds gross, but tastes just fine. http://www.mdr.com/B12.htm There is no can't. Only lack of knowledge or fear. Only you can fix your fear. PMS #227 (just like the TV show) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoysPlayThing 0 #19 June 8, 2004 I'm not sure about the Herb prozac.. But I just started a Herb program for my seizures and it seems to be helping me. _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
