JCW1966 0 #1 May 24, 2010 Thanks for taking the time to take this poll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerpaul 1 #2 May 24, 2010 Quote Thanks for taking the time to take this poll. My rig is equipped with an AAD. But I have not used it yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCW1966 0 #3 May 24, 2010 Quote Quote Thanks for taking the time to take this poll. My rig is equipped with an AAD. But I have not used it yet. Now that's a good thing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #4 May 24, 2010 Sure you have if you turn it on. What you haven't used is the cutter. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #5 May 24, 2010 Where is the yes & no option? One rig has a cypres the other rigs' use my hand.you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 May 24, 2010 Quote Where is the yes & no option? One rig has a cypres the other rigs' use my hand. Just a wild and wacky guess... but I's say the Multiple Answers Allowed part of the poll, covers that (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbiceps 0 #7 May 24, 2010 aads are compulsory at my dz. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerpaul 1 #8 May 24, 2010 Quote Sure you have if you turn it on. What you haven't used is the cutter. Tough crowd today!I can turn something on and not use it. I turn on my sewing machine. Then the wife calls me away. I turn off the machine and leave. Did I use the sewing machine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #9 May 25, 2010 yes i HAVE one... cypres... i arm it at the start of any day during which i'll be jumping... on site, AT the elevation of the landing area... and just prior to to doing a full gear check before i put the rig on my back... for the first jump of the day...never have allowed it to activate... ..i try to skydive in such a way, that i will never put it in a situation where IT feels the parameters exist,,, such that,,, it NEEDS to cut my closing loop... I've found that it Always cycles,,, always energizes correctly, and always shuts itself OFF.. approx. 14 hours after i've turned it on...i'd rate it to be a reliable component of my gear... i have 4 years left.... not sure what i'll do .....then..... jt a 3914 d 12122 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 May 25, 2010 Quote Quote Sure you have if you turn it on. What you haven't used is the cutter. Tough crowd today!I can turn something on and not use it. I turn on my sewing machine. Then the wife calls me away. I turn off the machine and leave. Did I use the sewing machine? Yes.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
captain1976 0 #11 May 25, 2010 Sure do and after having one for many years, I feel naked when I make that occasional jump on other gear that doesn't.You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 May 25, 2010 Yes Both Rigs Cypres II I just think its VERY cheap insurance in case something happens to incapacitate me, like being slammed into a door on exit. I also strive not to scare my Cypres into doing what it is designed to do. I have seen two outs and I do not want to ever see that mess above my head, nor do I want to join that elite club of people who have had a Cypres fire because they lost altitude awareness.I guess its better than being dead.. but not the club I wanna join Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #13 May 25, 2010 You certainly used the motor, but not the clutch and machine head. Your electric bill says so.Turn on the cypres it starts calibrating to ground, monitoring for take off, measuring for firing criteria, disabling firing at the minimum altitude, and turns off after 14 hours. Sure sounds like you used it to me. You could say you used the cutter because continuity was checked during start up. So resistance through cutter was measured. Hell yes you used it! Doesn't matter that it didn't fire the cutter and save your ass. It was seeing if it needed to. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #14 May 25, 2010 Yup...My Left Hand. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #15 May 25, 2010 in order : most of the time Cypres and Cypres2 occasionnally none or AAD OFF have a couple jumps with Vigil1 never jumped with any other brand/model of AAD I have 1 Cypres save.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerpaul 1 #16 May 25, 2010 Quote You certainly used the motor, but not the clutch and machine head. Your electric bill says so.Turn on the cypres it starts calibrating to ground, monitoring for take off, measuring for firing criteria, disabling firing at the minimum altitude, and turns off after 14 hours. Sure sounds like you used it to me. You could say you used the cutter because continuity was checked during start up. So resistance through cutter was measured. Hell yes you used it! Doesn't matter that it didn't fire the cutter and save your ass. It was seeing if it needed to. Okay, I see what you are saying. But, as a common understanding, does one use something if it does not actually accomplish the designed purpose? In this case, I chose to define the purpose of the AAD as cutting the reserve closing loop. It hasn't done that yet, though we assume it was ready to. Looking at another skydiving example, my rig has a reserve. I made a skydive, and landed under my main parachute. Did I use the reserve? I think that most people would say "no", even though by your explanation, it would be just as reasonable to say "yes". Now, maybe you want to make a distinction because of the "turning on" aspect of the AAD, whereas the reserve does not need any particular preparation before each jump. So, did I use the car's airbag if I didn't have an accident? Again, I think the common answer would be "no", even though there were steps taken to ready the device when I turned on the car. (Thanks! This is fun. Really.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #17 May 25, 2010 >Did I use the reserve? Did you utilize the reserve? No; you didn't deploy it. Is the reserve now used? Yes. Packing a reserve is what wears it out, and you did that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerpaul 1 #18 May 25, 2010 Quote>Did I use the reserve? Did you utilize the reserve? No; you didn't deploy it. Is the reserve now used? Yes. Packing a reserve is what wears it out, and you did that. Now you are being pickier than I am. Do you dispute that most people would not claim to have used the reserve if it was not deployed on the jump? Among the general jumping population, what does it mean when someone says he "used his reserve"? It means he deployed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
