hohonukai 0 #1 April 23, 2004 I have a handful of co-workers that I've been arguing with about skydiving being a sport. All in good nature, of course, they want me to prove that it is. They say skydiving is not a sport. I say it is. We've brought up the following so far: I say we compete in skydiving, therefore it's a sport. They came back with American Idol is competition, and it's not a sport. You can compete at beer drinking, but it's not a sport. They say if it's not on ESPN, it's not a sport. I say it was on ESPN X Games. They say skydiving would be considered a game then, or a hobby, or an outdoor activity. But ESPN does call skydiving a sport, does it not? They say can you bet on skydiving? I said I'm sure somewhere bets go on. They say it's not a sport. They say are there stats on wins/losses? They say are there stats on who broke their leg this week? I say yes there are stats online for competitions. No stats for broken legs. I'm trying to prove but I'm losing on the argument because I don't have time to formulate a complete answer. Anybody have any free time on their hands to prove skydiving is a sport? Compare it to football, baseball, etc. Frisbee football they say it's a sport too, but playing catch with a frisbee is not a sport. Another point that got brought up that if you can sit and watch it, it's a sport. I say you can watch jumpers. They also say physical activity does not make it a sport either. It's a fun debate with people who really don't think it's a sport. I don't take it personally. But skydiving is a sport dammit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #2 April 23, 2004 Easy....... sport ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt) n. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WrongWay 0 #3 April 23, 2004 I'll steal this from Phree. If you can die doing it, it's a sport. If not, it's just a game. Wrong Way D #27371 Mal Manera Rodriguez Cajun Chicken Ø Hellfish #451 The wiser wolf prevails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #4 April 23, 2004 It's an athletic endeavor and is thus a sport. But it's more of a lifestyle than anything. They usually don't mention that when you're a student. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #5 April 23, 2004 Sport vs. Game / Activity / Whatever is really arbitrary. I like the definition that if there isn't a realistic risk of killing yourself doing it, it isn's a sport. Basketball and baseball are not really sports. Scuba diving and Skydiving are - even without competition, betting, or statistics. Football, hockey, and rugby are sports, and fencing and boxing would have to be as well because although deaths are rare, they follow logically from the performance of the activity, should safety devices fail or be ignored in the interests of historical authenticity. Most firearm sports would be hard to define - they use deadly implements in safe ways. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifewithoutanet 0 #6 April 23, 2004 QuoteThey say if it's not on ESPN, it's not a sport. Sounds like a bunch of spectators to me. QuoteAnother point that got brought up that if you can sit and watch it, it's a sport. And there you have it. -C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #7 April 23, 2004 does it really matter ? -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #8 April 23, 2004 I dunno. I've argued before that it isn't a sport. In the end, I don't really care. It damn well is a whole lotta fun. Aparently Ball-room dancing is a "sport" Some people think Chess is, too. Both are in the olympics. Whatever those are... Skydiving has very little in common. I'm perfectly happy with jumping being whatever it is... cuz pigeonholing it is silly. What is it? IT's damn fun. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #9 April 23, 2004 Compare it to football, baseball, etc*** Just tell them its unique and better than all the other sports, cause unlike theirs that require one ball........ Ours requires two..... RoyThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kansasskydiver 0 #10 April 23, 2004 have any of them been skydiving? if not ask them too, if they won't ask them why? is they say it's becasue it's too dangerous, just call them pussies and to go play suffleboard or something. nascar is a sport, you can die doing it and it doesn't involve a ball.<--- See look, pink dolphins DO exist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #11 April 23, 2004 It was in Sports Illustrated... not Activities Illustrated. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #12 April 23, 2004 I think your co-workers are messing with your mind because they don't jump. Just say "Screw you guys, I'm going jumpin'." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravitysurfer 0 #13 April 23, 2004 ask if any of them have ever 'sported' a woody? aloha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orchid 0 #14 April 23, 2004 "If you can die doing it, it's a sport. If not, it's just a game" Right on...I agreed with Wrongway!!!!!"Love is doing small things with great love." Lacrosse: Legally beating men with sticks since 1492 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #15 April 23, 2004 This is the oldest scam in the world. People who feel that they are challenged by something will take the position of "It's no big deal, anyone can do it." This puts you in the position of defending it to them as if they are judging its validity. Personally, I respond to these people with "Really?" and ignore them. That makes it clear that they totally don't understand the concept and that I don't care if they do/don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wallygator 0 #16 April 23, 2004 Quote They say skydiving is not a sport. I say it is. . does it not say in the fars/cars "sport parachuting/skydiving" a few times. i know i read it in the cspa pims. cheers -------------------------------------------------- who Jah bless Let no man curse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJatLarge 0 #17 April 23, 2004 Don't ya love it when you have a friend or co-worker tell you "I don't see what the big deal with skydiving is. You jump out, count to 10 and pull the handle." Simply invite them out for a jump and watch them back pedel out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #18 April 23, 2004 If done right skydiving test your mental and physical capabilities to do it any good. There are TEAMS who COMPETE to be the BEST in each discipline. You can be injured or killed, and yes if we wanted to we could absolutely keep statistics of win/loses injuries, etc. And we could start gambling on it. And yes it was absolutely in the X Games on ESPN. So none of THEIR arguments hold any water. Then you take into account Philly Kev's post on the Webster's of sport and there is your argument. Just because they do not succumb to your superior definition and intellect does not mean you are losing. It just means 1.) They are too dumb to realize they lost the argument. and 2.) Too scared to ever skydive and therefore feel inferior to you and your cajones and therefore feel the need to bash your sport. hehehehehee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuffit 0 #19 April 23, 2004 Quote"If you can die doing it, it's a sport. If not, it's just a game" Right on...I agreed with Wrongway!!!!! You could die playing badminton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdgregory 0 #20 April 23, 2004 QuoteQuote"If you can die doing it, it's a sport. If not, it's just a game" Right on...I agreed with Wrongway!!!!! You could die playing badminton. Yeah if I filled the damn thing with dynamite or a 747 crashed into you while you where watching the birdie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #21 April 23, 2004 QuoteYou could die playing badminton. Yea, but do you know how hard you would have to work to die playing badminton? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 April 23, 2004 QuoteSport vs. Game / Activity / Whatever is really arbitrary. I like the definition that if there isn't a realistic risk of killing yourself doing it, it isn's a sport. Sport versus game discussions usually centers around activities like chess. While it is competitive, it does not require physical skill. Therefore it is a game, neverminding the counter claims that speed chess is a physical endeavor. Skydiving has the latter, but for most is not a competitive event, making it an activity under the given constructs. It of course doesn't matter and is all semantics. If your construct is can you die - well then just about anything qualifies, and bowling and hunting would be on top. These stiffs were heart attacks waiting to happen, but it is a rather frequent occurrence. I think my criteria centers around how good the photography is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beej 0 #23 April 24, 2004 A guy died of a heart attack on the next court to me while playing Badminton ---------------------------------------------------- If the shit fits - wear it (blues brothers)-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #24 April 24, 2004 QuoteThey say are there stats on who broke their leg this week No stats, but wagering on broken bones has been known to occur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites