mr2mk1g 10 #26 March 29, 2004 Anyone else think its odd that its referred to as a "crash" ? I read it as the plane caught fire whilst taxiing, the pilot got out the quickest way possible and the plane rolled to a halt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jussi 0 #27 March 29, 2004 "[dons geek hat] Goose should not have been killed. The F-14 he was in was in a flat spin, which would have spun the cockpit out from under the canopy, leaving Goose free to eject into clear air. [removes geek hat]" well, i found this "accidentally" on the web: Actually, they way Goose died was based on some fact. During the development and flight testing of the F-14, it was determined that in a flat spin, there would be considerable "dead air," just above the F-14 (remember, it is spinning and coming straight down). As a result of an ejection, the canopy would tend to hover above the F-14 (several feet, not just a few inches). Thus, when the aircrew ejected, the canopy would go, and then one second later, the RIO would go, and possibly hit into the canopy, with the ejection seat rocket still firing. Procedures were put into place, for any ejection, that the aircrew should first jettison the canopy (via the canopy jettison handle in the cockpit), and then pull the ejection seat handle. This would give the canopy enough time to clear the "dead air" and result in a safe ejection. This was particularly spelled out in the F-14 Flat Spin Emergency Procedures, of which aircrew were requrired to memorize. Only in extremis, were the aircrew to bypass this procedure (eg, about ready to fly into a mountain), but with that, they would risk hitting the canopy. In the movie, such that a layman would understand how Goose died, the canopy only jettisoned a few inches, and Goose went into the canopy (he did not jettision the canopy first, as per procedures). In a flat spin, many times, the pilot (due to outward G forces) cannot reach the ejection handle, and you heard Maverick say something like, "I can't reach the handle..............Eject, Eject...............watch the canopy." This entire sequence was to "simulate" for the moviegoer, the real facts of an F-14 in a Flat Spin, and the fact that one could indeed, eject into the canopy. They just had to make it understandable to the layperson." hmm..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kid_Icarus 0 #28 March 29, 2004 Let's just have a moment of silence for Goose. "No, no, it's 2 O's boys..." "We're way low on fuel Mav..." "Oh, shit...it's Jester..." "I was in a 2G negative dive" "we,we Mav" "We, were in a 2 G negative dive..." ________________________________________ "What What..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #29 March 29, 2004 They were in an inverted flat spin without power. Same thing killed Art Shole(sp) during the filming of the scene. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites